Hi All - I'm just writing this to ask everyone who they were routing for Mirabelle to end up with. Despite Jeremey being a really quarky, enjoyable character who for every reason would be the better choice for Mirabelle, I still was routing for the relationship between her and Ray to prevale in the end. So I'm curious is it only me (who has a thing for older men) that wanted Ray & Mirabelle to be together, or if there were others.
Jeremy all the way. Ray only wanted sex. He never truly cared about Mirabelle or he would have let her go sooner instead of pursuing his own desires. Hooray for Jeremy.
I was hoping that Ray would end up with Mirabelle! Jeremy should have ended up with Lisa! I didnt think that Jeremy meshed well with Mirabelle. I found Ray to be very sexy and even though he is much older than Mirabelle they had amazing chemistry! My husband is 20 years older than me, so I could totally relate my life to Ray and Mirabelle, except my husband is a millionare! :-)
I feel like eventually Mirabelle, will move on and be with someone new. These two relationship will help her grow as a woman and realize who she really wants to be with. Both of them were good for the time she was living in, her age being young, she will mature and really know who shes looking for in a man.
Who knows she might even move back to her home town and date her childhood sweetheart and realize that the big city life is not for her!!
To be completely honest, the chemistry between Mirabelle and Ray was a little better than the chemistry between Mirabelle and Jeremy. However, that chemistry between Mirabelle and Ray didn't mean a thing in the end due to the fact that Ray was incapable of loving Mirabelle in the same way that Mirabelle loved Ray.
And, yes, she did love Ray... very much. Any woman that has been in love with a man like Ray knows what this kind of love looks and feels like... and Mirabelle has this love, no doubt. But, again, this one-sided love with amazing chemistry is not enough.
What Jeremy gave Mirabelle was something that she desperately needed. He was someone that truly fell in love with her for HER - not part of her, but ALL of her. Jeremy changed his life not only for himself, but also for Mirabelle. She was the one that motivated him to become a better man. That is love. And she loved him right back. How could she not? He made promises that he could keep... and he didn't need to buy her off. ( Plus, Jeremy is so funny and adorable, IMO )
I'm glad this film ( and Steve Martin's book ) didn't give in and do a typical Hollywood ending where the non-commital man decides he loves the sweet woman so much that he's going to completely change overnight ( like "Sex and the City" did ). Instead, it offered a more realistic glimpse into a situation that lots of people have probably encountered. I know I have.
I wanted her to be with Jeremy, he was quirky and endearing. I think he is able to relate more to Mirabelle than Ray ever could. Jeremy was an artist in his own right and I think he would make her happy more than money ever could.
Despite Ray's selfishness and non-committal attitude I think Mirabelle should have hung in there a while longer and to see if she couldn't gotten through to him. They did have something special between them. Something a lot like love.
This is assuming that they had been together for less than a year or so. I wouldn't recommend trying too much past the 2 year mark, if he hadn't responded to her properly. But if you really love someone and share something special as they did, I don't think you should just walk away so easily just because he's(she) is less than fulfulling. If she could overlook loser boy's many flaws, then she should have able to hang in a little longer with Ray. Provided she could have found a way to insulate her heart a little better from his insensitivity.
I know he's a old fart and all. But he did have a lot good to him as well. As no ones perfect. And no relationship is perfect. Sometimes you have to work at getting it right. Perhaps they could have worked through his committment issues together as opposed to apart.
I think a twenty-something girl, like claire dane's character, might do as she did and walk away from an insensitive lover. But as woman ages a little and starts pushing 40, most women I know WOULD NOT leave the Ray for the Jeremy. Just not so fast. And even if she did eventually leave Ray for his lack of committment and insensitivity, etc, it would not be for a loser like Jeremy. Not if he had as much going on for her as the Mirabelle character did (Beauty, Charm, intelligence, grace, etc). I found nothing appealing in the way the script portrayed Jeremy. He was an idiot with no real depth. Even his discovery of new age philosophy was superficial and glib. I could have supported her choice if Jeremy was a young intelligent man working towards a substantial career even if he was still struggling and somewhat immature. But that's not how Jeremy was portrayed.
Frankly, the script did not portray Ray or Jeremy as good marriage material. (And you know how much we girls wanna be married.) But if you were gonna bide you time with one of these two guys as you continue on your journey searching for love I think Ray had a lot more to offer as an "interim" love and perhaps a potential mate than Jeremy did
For some reason I found myself rooting for Ray too. Although I knew he was a jerk. He seemed to love, but could not bring himself to give her a worthy place in his life other than the girl he slept with. I was mad he never gave her the respect she deserved. Jeremy was not a great catch either he was not smart enough to really hold a real conversation with her either. I though it was kind of clueless like when he wanted to use a baggy for a condom. In the end Jeremy was better to her out of the two because he did have real respect and love for her. He had more to offer emotionally.
Jeremy every time! He's quirky, funny, sweet and cute. So what if he didn't have much money? I'd definitely prefer him over a rich guy who cheats, and just uses you for sex. I guess I'm a little bit biased because I'm a fan of Jason, and he's absolutely adorable, (but v.sexy... ) But honestly why would you want to be with someone who doesn't love you? Yeah, nice expensive gifts are great, but that rose that Jeremy sent her, means so much more.
I liked this movie but I found Ray's character a bit creepy. I really think she liked being with him though and wasn't just after his money, success and the gifts really attracted her but she also wanted love in return..
I just kept watching it and thinking God I couldn't be with someone that old. I'm 23 and I think most girls my age have been hit on by older men like that one point or the other.. and while they can be sweet and successful and moderately handsome it just would be personally weird for me. I know other people who are totally comfortable with it and I guess if the right older guy came along I would feel fine with it... but I just am more attracted to and relate better to guys my age and don't like the thought of someone buying me or trying to be serious about someone who has made it pretty clear he doesn't want a real connection.. I could understand Mirabell's need for it and want for it though.
I thought her breakdown was so sad and can relate to crying like that and being hurt but I also at the same time would have told him he was a stupid *beep* and cussed him out. She was too sweet and dependent to do that though..
P.S., I also found it more enjoyable to watch Amanda's Peet character with Jack Nicholson because she knew he was too old for her but she just wanted some 'fun.' Even though Jack Nicholson is less attractive and somewhat scarier than Steve Martin's character he is just hilarious and more fun.. however that movie was a comedy and this was a drama but yeah.. I would have rather gone out with Jack than Steve.
Sorry to say, but i would have to go with Jeremy! He was willing to change for her, and Ray wasn't. Reading all those books to make himself worthy of her was really lovely. And because i have also been in a relationship with a guy like Ray, i knew that there would have been no way of changing him while in the relationship. They wouldn't have been able to work it out. He had to lose her to finally realise he loved her. Not to mention, i found Ray to be a bit on the boring side. Jeremy was fun kooky and saw an interesting side to life. And someone as artisitc as Mirabelle needed someone like him.