Was the curbstomp wrong?


First off, I loved the movie. One of my favorites of all time.

I had this discussion with a friend of mine and we thought that even though the curbstomp was brutal as hell, the man did try to steal Derek's car. If some one tried to steal my car or rob my house, I would have gotten very violent if I got the upper hand.

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Was it wrong? You tell me.

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I like to think that the curb stomp was wrong, totally wrong, he was unarmed and defenseless, however, it's not totally unjustified, the way I look at things the matter of degree never come into question when the attacker understands the ramifications of his actions. He knew if they went to steal his car, there would be trouble, that's why they were armed. They knew they were risking their lives and they did it anyway. It's obvious Derek is a dangerous guy, very obvious, but they acted anyway.

I once saw an interview with a guy in prison. He killed a man with a box cutter because the man had not repaid him for a soda he bought him. He looked at the camera and told them, he asked nicely to be repaid, the man cursed him out and told him he didn't owe him a a *beep* thing, blah blah blah. Killed him with a box cutter, know how long you got to try to kill someone with a box cutter? Then he asked the guard, now whose fault was that, his or mine?

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The curb stomp was clearly wrong but shooting the first guy with the gun was not. He should have shot the first guy, and attempted to detain the others until police arrived.

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I won't deny, the "curbstomp" was gruesome and perhaps excessive. However, when I first viewed the film I didn't find it completely unjustified. That was, until, Norton stood up in the street and faced the cops. The look of pride on his face chilled me to the bone and helped me to realize how unlike him I am, and how disturbing it is that I considered his actions to be rational. In conclusion, I'm unsure of what I'd do, but I'd undeniably be very pissed. No one should rule out the possibility of curbstomp. You never really know what you'll do in such a situation until it comes along.

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The first time I saw it I was shocked but was also like, yeah, take that bitch. Come to my house with guns with my family here, especially with a baby. But realistically, it was the wrong thing to do (the curbstomp) but there was a pretty clear hatred towards black people too and his father was murdered by a black fella too, so I reckon that had a pretty big impact for coming up with the curbstomp, probably a feeling of self justice! I don't think I could do the curbstomp over someone stealing my car. It works well with his character though, no mercy!

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No, it wasn't wrong. Derek was a hero for defending his home and family. If more criminals were pumped full of lead, or had their skulls split and brains splattered across a curb, think of how much less crime there would be.

When Derek's brother was writing his paper, he talked about how dramatic it was to see "that kid's skull split". That kid? The guy was at least 30. How old does a criminal have to be before we deem them responsible for their actions? Only in politically correct fantasy land can defending your home be a "hate crime".

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Curb-stomping was pretty *beep* up, only a sick maniac would make someone put their teeth on the curb like that and then kick their head in. Even if they were murdering thieves.

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I think the guy was an idiot for biting the curb to begin with. What did he THINK was going to happen? Better to just get shot and hope to survive the bullet wound.



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I agree with you completely Gabby I would have never bitten the curb. I would have tried to run and hopefully he woulda shot and just grazed the shoulder. He did put himself in that position. But still didn't make it right for Derick to curb stomp him obviously.

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Yes it was completely wrong, yeah the guy tried stealing his car. But curb stomping someone is just down right inhumane.

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in an individual becoming judge, jury and executioner?



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200% deserved. Theft and assault for no good reason deserves harsh punishment and trash like those have no place in our society, nor in a prison eating from our taxes and burdening mankind.

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Theft and assault for no good reason deserves harsh punishment and trash like those have no place in our society, nor in a prison eating from our taxes and burdening mankind.


What would you consider a good reason for theft and assault? And would you do away with prisons then, since there is no good reason to burden the taxpayers? Should we just execute criminals then? And if so, can we start with our congressmen?



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Excusable reason for theft would be hunger; for assault just in case of self-defense or payback for something bad done to them.

And yeah, I think most criminals with really hard offenses like murder and rape should all be executed.

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Theft and assault for no good reason deserves harsh punishment and trash like those have no place in our society, nor in a prison eating from our taxes and burdening mankind.
I think the guy who was curb stomped was basically a James Ramseur type. That mad dog would have been trouble wherever he was. Better to put him down than have him running loose.

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So if you saw someone trying to steal your car, which is probably worth a few to a few dozen thousand dollars, you would curbstomp them? Really? You would try and kill them? Over a theft that is hopefully covered by your insurance? You would risk your morals, your freedom, and your immortal soul (if you believe in that sort of thing, which I do), over a car? Please, tell me you aren't serious. Or else claiming that this movie is one of your favourites is really strange, because you obviously didn't watch it.

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Well, I drive a 1991 Honda Accord, so I doubt it's worth even a few thousand bucks. But to answer your question, yes. The car is still worth more than that thug's life, IMO. I can reasonably expect the car to provide a few more years of good service. What contribution to society would this clown have made?

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" The car is still worth more than that thug's life"

The car is equally worth more to the thieves than you are. The car can provide transport and maybe has so resale value. You as the owner of this car pose as the same problem to the thieves as the thieves to to you. Both parties prohibit one another from using the car.

By your logic if I attempt to steal your car, I should first break into your home, kill you ( since you as a person are of now value to me directly and can only stand in the way of getting the car. ) and then proceed to steal the car.

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From the perspective of a thieving, law-breaking thug, yes.


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Not up to you to decide, bub. That's why we have laws and courts. No one gets to make that decision unilaterally.

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