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Other movies that do a 180 half way through?


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Psycho
Million Dollar Baby

those instantly spring to mind as movies that completely flip, can't think of any more at the mo...

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it started off as a bonnie and clyde type of movie but ended up as a stephen king vampire movie.

The Aztec temple at the end was a nice touch too.

Who else found it odd that when sex machine was bitten he turned like 5-9 minutes after he was bitten same as the Vietnam Vet. but when the preacher was bitten he turned like 45 minutes later?

Also, he left her there and said go home. Her parents are dead! She has no home! Ecspecially in Mexico!

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If thats the only thing you found "odd" about the movie, then wow.

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10 pages of this topic and NOBODY mentions Goodfellas?!?!?!?!

Hello? Anyone??

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The movie "The Usual Suspects". It has one of the best end twists ever in all cinema!!! It was Kevin Spacey's star vehicle..It put him on the map although he was already an established actor, but not like after his role in "The Usual Suspects". I give it my highest rating..rent it if you've never seen it.

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Don't even bother to rent it, go directly to buying it, it is that good

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That doesn't do a 180 half way through. It has the same tone and plot direction throughout, it's just that moments before the end, you discover something surprising about the villain.

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He turned later because it was beneficial to the plot and I think that she was better off for not going to El Rey because I've got a sense that once you go to El Rey, you never return and also that it isn't the type of place one would request to be in until the end of time. That is, unless you're an aimless, uncaring criminal like George Clooney.

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that's because sex machine was bitten in the neck, and the preacher was bitten in the arm so it took longer to turn him into a vamp

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Taxi Driver goes from a probable romantic story to a crime film

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false... sex machine was also bitten on arm. just watched the film

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Some inconsistent timelines for the changes for sure... all the people who get bitten in the initial assault take a good amount of time to change. Sex Machine changes within 10 minutes, the Vet is nearly instantaneous (within 2 mintes), and the preacher takes quite a while.

Theories- the no-name patrons took long to change because they had been sucked nearly dry and needed longer to regenerate.

Sex Machine- bitten on the arm, has most of his blood so he changes somewhat quickly

Vet- bitten on the neck, has most of his blood, super quick change

Preacher- bitten on the arm, has most of his blood so he would have probably lasted about as long as SM but... he is a holy man. The body is mostly water so in his case it is "holy water", therefore the change has to work against the effect of all the "holy water" in his system.

I know, it's a stretch. I just came up with this right now as I'm watching the movie lol.

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how does million dollar baby do a 180?? or psycho?? i think you didnt understand the question about 180.

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I'll vouch for Psycho doing a 180.
It started as a drama/thriller about a woman, who normally wouldn't, committing a crime and trying to figure out a way to get away with it. Up until the mid-way point, in Psycho, Marion Crane is the psycho in question. SPOILER IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT!!! ---- At the midway point she is brutally murdered and this occurance is followed by another murder. Thus, the film becomes a horror movie dealing with an altogether different type of psycho. ---- END SPOILER!!!
So, I would completely agree that Psycho is a movie that does a 180. In fact I think it is the original film that sparks the modern twist.
I don't know that I completely agree that Million Dollar Baby does a 180, but I can see how someone else would say that it does. It starts as a sport movie about an underdog ala Rocky and turns into a social drama dealing with moral questions about death and family.
Yeah, he understands the question.

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It starts out as a feel-gooder movie and ends up being a real tragedy.
I can't even get myself to watch it again it affected me so strongly.


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Psycho, right?

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psycho does. it's first a drama about a girl who stole some money, then out of nowhere it turns into a murder-mystery.

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It starts out to be this story of a lady boxer and the father-daughter relationship she develops with her trainer, very uplifting and positive, and then she gets injured and the movie turns into this total tearjerker. I certainly didn't see such an abrupt change in the movie coming. I think it did a complete 180.

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I havent seen Million Dollar Baby, but Psycho also came to my mind when I read this question. If you don't remember, we spend the first 30 minutes or so of that movie watching Marion (who we presume is the main character) steal money from her work in order to run away with her boyfriend. Once she has the money, she checks into the hotel off the highway and gets killed by Norman.
After her death, her plot is completely abandoned and has no bearing on the rest of the movie whatsover (with the exception of her sister showing up later).

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Someone said Deer Hunter! Awesome example. And I love how sudden the change is! It doesn't show them going to Vietnam, it doesn't show them getting captured, it just goes straight from a happy wedding in the states to a really really intense POW scene!

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psycho went from a movie about a woman on the run from the law to a horror film!

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"Miracle Mile" starring Anthony Edwards (ER, Top Gun) starts out as a romantic dramedy about a guy and his new girlfriend, detailing her family and his attempts to improve his reputation. Later he bungles a date b/c he's late to pick her up from the diner she waitresses at. Outside he notices a payphone ringing incessantly, and picks it up only to find it's a wrong # misdial. However, what he overhears during those few seconds on the phone, runs a chill down your spine... within minutes the entire movie has become an apocalyptic end-of-the-world suspense thriller = NOT AT ALL the type of movie we'd been lured into earlier.

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I'll seoncd MILLION DOLLAR BABY.

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If someone really made a movie that completely changed genre, for no reason, then I bet most reviewers here would be really pissed off. Imagine, if you will, a crime/bank robbery story that winds up about halfway through, and then turns into a romantic comedy between two of the characters.
Or a teenage sex comedy that turns into a serious science fiction movie halfway through. Even if both parts were complete, good movies on their own, can you just imagine how infuriated people would be at this stupid movie? It's almost worth making one like this, just as a troll.

We can IMAGINE what is not.

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The Crying Game kind of does the former. Starts as a crime film, becomes an unconventional romance.

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@whesse If someone really made a movie that completely changed genre, for no reason, then I bet most reviewers here would be really pissed off.
Well, isn't that why some people really hate this movie?

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probably helped that he was a preacher, but we really don't know. he was bitten in the arm just like sex machine. and sex machine took a while to change, unlike the Vietnam Vet who was bitten in the neck. The "venom" probably needs to travel up to the brain to affect them.

shes got a wad of cash, so when she gets out of Mexico and back home, im sure she will figure something out.

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How about these?


Malice
Deliverence
Arlington Road(kind of)

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Malice is a good example, I'll agree to that one.


It's hard to think of others that do such a complete 180, especially in the middle of the movie. You may have shocking endings where you didn't see it coming at all, but it's at the end of the movie, like The Usual Suspects or Seven. But this movie was pretty much right in the middle and completely turned into a different type of movie. Even though I think Malice is a good example, it's nowhere to the extreme change that From Dusk Til Dawn has.











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The Deer Hunter, it starts off as a nice happy film with small factory town wedding, then flip! Russian roullete! Tortured by the Viet Cong! Welcome to the hell of war!

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Audition (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/)
It starts out as a drama/romance film, then the last half hour is a torture gore fest!

Hostel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450278/)
starts off as an American Pie type movie then switches to gore/torture half way through.

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allygrosser.........Shaun of the Dead? Serious at the end? What About fighting off the zombies to Don't Stop Me Now, by queen? and Ed's Last Line? its dirty violent and gory as hell, and it has its seriosu moments, but not enought to call it a turn around film.

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Titanic (1997) kind of turns halfway from a romance to a sort of disaster thriller.

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The last half being the better half ;-)

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allygrosser.........Shaun of the Dead? Serious at the end? What About fighting off the zombies to Don't Stop Me Now, by queen? and Ed's Last Line? its dirty violent and gory as hell, and it has its seriosu moments, but not enought to call it a turn around film.

The movie's "serious moments" happen mostly, and most intensely, at the end of the film when everyone starts arguing about killing Shaun's mom. That's enough of a turn-around for me.

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The Original Star wars trilogy,started off a spacefest romp,by the middle it was Incest central!!

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Vanilla Sky.

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REVOLVER!!!

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The Dead Zone, afer Johnny figures out that he can change the things he sees happening.

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The Titanic? Did you not know what was going to happen? Are you an idiot?

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Dead Presidents. Going from a growing up in the hood movie to a war movie to a crime movie with very little transition.

Sleepers. Great movie about kids growing up in Hell's Kitchen, then suddenly they almost kill a guy by dropping a hot dog cart on him and get sent to jail where they're horribly abused by the guards. Then when they leave they seek revenge. Yeah, that was quite something.

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I think this movie does the biggest 180 flip I've ever seen. It's honestly like Tarantino began to make / wrote one of his "normal" movies, then halfway through thought: *beep* it, I wanna make a vampire movie!"

The "classic" example though is Psycho (which has already been said)

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Nice one SmashMonkey! I agree!

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The CRYING GAME is the ultimate example! Has anyone mentioned that yet?

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"The Crying Game" is probably the best example of this I can think of, and aside from "Psycho" it is the most acclaimed film mentioned thus far.

"Lost Highway" is another great one.

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The Titanic? Did you not know what was going to happen? Are you an idiot?


Lol! Just like the surprise twist in the middle of Pearl Harbor, when the Japanese stage a sneak attack. Didn't see that one coming, did you?

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The Devils Rejects kind of. Audition, Wolf Creek, kind of too.

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I haven't seen The Dead Zone, but I read the book, and the movie is anything like the book, then yes that is one huge 180.

Also, I think we're talking about 180s in the middle of the film, not just at the ending. The one that jumps out at me is Envy. The first half of that movie was killing me, it was so funny. Ben Stiller and Jack Black were awesome. Then (SPOILERS if you really care) Stiller kills the horse and the movie went from innocent funny to pitch black comedy.

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As another poster mentioned, I think MILLION DOLLAR BABY belongs on this thread as well...the film starts off as a an uplifting and sentimental sports film about a female boxer and her father/daughter type relationship with her manager and then BANG...Maggie gets injured and the film turns into this highly emotional tearjerker.

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Thx for the spoiler m8...

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Love this movie and a good example, even though you wrote this post three years ago.


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I would definitely say "SHAUN OF THE DEAD". I was enjoying up until the point Dylan Moran got his guts torn apart. From Comedy to full-out, fists-raised, limb-tearing horror.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SPOOF/ ZOMBIE COMEDY. THINGY.

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"I would definitely say "SHAUN OF THE DEAD". I was enjoying up until the point Dylan Moran got his guts torn apart. From Comedy to full-out, fists-raised, limb-tearing horror.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SPOOF/ ZOMBIE COMEDY. THINGY. "


Look, this argument probably dead, but I just wanted to say I don't think Shaun of the Dead was meant to be a parody. A comedy sure, but not a parody. And the comedy was not the zombies, but how normal people would react to them. And I think you'd die down on the laughs a bit if you had to shoot your mum and then watch someone torn apart.

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It was a spoof/zombie comedy thingy but what's a zombie movie without excessive gore. Maybe I'm alone here but I was kind of happy to see Dylan Moran get his guts torn apart and gorged upon by hundreds of zombies. The guy was a dick and deserved what he got (well, at least in terms of the movie). The bit with Shaun's mom was a bit hard to watch but it fit in with the whole movie, it being a laugh out loud funny comedy/drama/horror zombie film. It was a mix of several genres and it excelled in every one.

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No, actually, it [Shaun Of The Dead] was supposed to be a combination of zombie film & romantic comedy all throughout. It was not supposed to be a parody of zombie films; the filmmakers are big fans of the zombie genre.

The change in Hot Fuzz is there, for sure, but it's only because all the cliches mentioned in the first half are then acted out in the second half. It's a stylistic thing.

Sunshine? Psycho? Vertigo? Are you people... ugh. Most of the suggestions here are wrong. These films do not switch genre, even if they do switch tone.

I've never even been to Mt. Vesuvius.

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One vote for Sunshine. Definitely a switch but still thoroughly enjoyable, imo.

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It's probably already been said, but Fight Club goes from a guy whining about his boring consumer lifestyle, to a nationwide club of people beating the *beep* out of eachother and committing large scale terrorist attacks.

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Lost highway?

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Full Metal Jacket by Kubrick.

Anyone, anyone?

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I was just gonna say that! Its like two one hour movies that have some of the same charactors in it.

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I agree. FMJ felt like 2 completely different movies glued together rather than 1 single movie.

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DERAILED - totally unexpected !

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DERAILED does do a 180, it just doesn't do it very believably...the movie loses what little credibility it had at the 180 point.

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The Frighteners with Michael J. Fox. Started out as cute and funny with the ghosts helping him to con people, then gets more serious and scary about halfway through.

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It's not as radical an example as some of the others, but "A Clockwork Orange" goes from a hilariously funny futuristic gangster film to a cautionary political statement about the nature of crime and punishment. Movies that switch gears and tackle many moods are always the ones that stay with you, because they make you feel subconsciously as if you've watched several films in the time it takes to watch just one. That's a pretty cool trick!

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"The Usual Suspects" has a good 180 ending!

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no, no, no. The Usual Suspects doesn't count, that's just a big twist. I'm pretty sure the OP means movies that change completely in style. I really can't think of a movie that does a 180 flip like DTD. That's kind of what makes it a dark comedy. The dead pan un apologetic leap it makes from genre to genre is classic.

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The Descent, although u do get hints that this would be a horror film

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I cant remember the name, but it was a recent Hitchcock who-dunnit styled thriller about a group of people trapped in a motel during a rain storm. They start dieing one by one by what seems to be a seriel killer - but in the last 30 minutes an incredible twist takes place and the story totally changes.

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Got it
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