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They need to stop using tarantulas


They're just not that scary. I loathe and fear spiders more than just about anything, but tarantulas don't bother me that much. Movies need to start using black widows, or if that's not practical, create them with CGI. Those SOBs are scary as hell.

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There must be very few people, if any other than yourself, who are repulsed by tiny black spiders over massive, hideous, hairy ones.

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I really don't think so. The bite of a black widow is far worse than the bite of a tarantula, which is only about as serious as a bee sting. And black widows' spindly, angular legs are creepier looking than tarantulas' thick, fuzzy legs.

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They need to make a movie where some mad doctor created wings for tarantulas so they can fly and attack people

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There are already flying spiders:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_(spider)

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Black widows aren't that deadly compared to many others. But they use tarantulas because of their size, since movies are a visual medium.

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The Widow family are very deadly and Black Widow is common in some areas which is why people know about them compared with others.

I agree with second part the size and look also I believe back when this film was made they did use real spiders for fair amount of the shots.

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Sorry, but you are mistaken about how deadly a black widow is. Their bites are rarely fatal.
https://www.livescience.com/51014-black-widow-spiders-misconceptions.html

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That site is nonsense it show 0 evidence of anything.

I suggest looking up studies about Black Widows venom and the mechanism.

The positive is they are deadly but do not bite just for the sake of it.

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Dude, just admit you're wrong instead of standing on an easily disproved hill. Here are multiple additional sources that support exactly what I just said. Every one of them says fatality from bites are extremely rare.

https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/poison/black-widow-spider#:~:text=The%20bite%20of%20the%20black,for%20Disease%20Control%20and%20Prevention.)

https://myhealth.alberta.ca/Health/aftercareinformation/pages/conditions.aspx?hwid=abo1644#:~:text=After%20being%20bitten%20by%20a,should%20start%20to%20go%20away.

https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/animals/invertebrates/facts/black-widow

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Again you have provided nothing I will point you in the correct direction look up studies about venom many of them.

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Huh? He provided you FOUR links with information and you're the one saying HE provided nothing and "look up studies about venom many of them[sic]"?

His claims shouldn't even need any links, because it should be common knowledge.
Black Widow bites are nasty and can cause serious, serious pain and tissue damage, but rarely will it kill a healthy adult human being.

It's really difficult to watch you digging that dumb little hole of yours deeper and deeper while having the audacity to claim his posts are "zero evidence, look it up!". You have no arguments whatsoever but just dismiss his?

Long story short, you're wrong, he's right.

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You first:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1345/aph.1Q424

"From 2000 through 2006, a total of 23,409 Latrodectus spp. exposures were reported in 47 states; 9872 cases had at least minor clinical effects and were included in the subsequent analysis. Exposures peaked in September and fell to a nadir in January and February. Fifty-eight percent of the cases involved males, and the mean (SD) age was 31.5 (17.4) years. Sixty-five percent of the patients had minor clinical effects, 33.5% had moderate effects, 1.4% had major effects, and there were no deaths."

Just stop talking, and go away.

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lol, you are a clown.

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"The Widow family"

There's no such thing.
Maybe learn basic biology before you tell others their information is wrong.
Latrodectus are a genera, not a family. They belong to the family of Theridiidae with dozens of genera and thousands of species.

And the Black Widow is still not "very deadly"... unless you are a rodent. Are you a rodent, Miller?

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I can't tell if the person is a troll, or just one of those people too weak and petty to admit they are wrong.

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I was doing it for a windup and the person fell for it.

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That's called trolling fucktard. Jesus, you genuinely are stupid, aren't you.🤣

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And I don't believe that's true. Your other posting history doesn't indicate you'd do that. Your just ignorant about this subject and you are too small to admit you were wrong. It's ok, lot's of people like that exist in this world. You aren't special.

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Nice try to save face, somewhat... but nobody will fall for it. xD
I think by now we all know you're just really fucking dumb.

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A tarantula bite is about as bad as a bee sting, far less serious than a black widow bite. And black widows, although they are much smaller, are much scarier looking.

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That is not quite accurate, because it depends on what species you had the pleasure with.
A bite from a South American/New World species like A. geniculata, G. pulchra etc.? Sure, that's a "slightly more intense bee sting" and their venom is not potent enough to cause a non-allergic adult any serious issues.

Now, a bite from most Old World species, say a P. murinus, also known as "Orange Bitey Thing"? I promise you, you won't ever forget that experience and a hospital visit is guaranteed. It won't kill you either, but the pain is insane.

Source: Various "bite reports" from other tarantula hobbyists and I have seen a retard getting bit by the latter. On purpose.

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Ironically some of the smaller spiders are deadlier to humans than the big nastier looking ones. Black widows are deadly to mostly infants and the elderly. The Brazilian Wandering Spider is one of the worst in the world and it's about the size of a wolf spider.

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"Black widows are deadly to mostly infants and the elderly."
Very misleading, to say the least...

Truth is, they're hardly deadly for anyone and at best, you got a hand full of people die each year, out of thousands of bites. Also never heard of an infant dying to a widow bite. Not saying it wouldn't be possible, just never heard of it.
Your post makes it sound like it's somewhat common. It isn't.

More people die to bees every year than to black widows. Yet nobody writes articles about "deadly bees!"

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It's been a while since I saw this but I thought the spiders were some other kind than that.

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As someone who has shot a few movies and dabbled in Special Effects, I think Tarantulas get used primarily due to their size. Photographing tiny things requires special lenses and it's much harder and more time intensive to follow focus. Another reason is because if you ever need to use puppets or animatronics as this movie did, it's major engineering challenge to make joints and gears on tiny little fake spiders as opposed to the much larger and more robust Tarantulas. Their fur helps hide rigging and any inarticulated joints as well.

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