The South nowadays


I saw this movie a second time, right after "A Time to Kill", and a documentary about the KKK, but it made me wonder, how is the South right now?

I'm from Europe (and progressive left-wing and all you want), and seeing this, it's sort of unreal, but it isn't new. The South of the USA is always represented that way (thank you Hollywood and the CNN), but I wonder - in 2010 - howmuch of that is still true? I mean, you could argue that still most of the south vote republic (though usually cities tend to be more democratic), but I don't think voting right-wing makes you a short-sighted racist.

So how does the south look in 2010? Are all Americans living peacefully next to each other, or do some towns still make a distinction between colour? are there still separated toilets? do they think some fellow Americans don't wash?

I studied about fear for unknown things, but I figure the South's also living in 2010.

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Racism is alive and well in the USA. After the 60's it just began to go underground. It is practiced every day in every way in every state. It may be less in places like Montana and Wyoming where there aren't that many Afro-Americans. But in states like those, when you visit the ladies room (as I once did in Kansas) the graffiti is "kill the red *beep* i.e. Native Americans. I am glad that the times of in your face attacks over race don't happen on an every day basis anymore. Unfortunately, racism poisons the victims as well as the perpetrators. I live in a state that never had segregation laws. But, it was practised anyway by social conventions and customs. I remember how when I was a child black people would show up at a restaurant or whatever and assume they were practising forceful integration and then make a scene or fuss. This only caused a lot of people to close their shops or restaurants and head for the suburbs thus increasing social separation. On top of all that, what this country didn't need was the horrendous influx of illegal Mexicans who only added fuel to the fire. They seem to be disliked, for a variety of reasons, by both white and black. But they are crafty, whenever people raise objections to their illegal status and drain on our society they pull the 'race card' and say they are being discrimnated against for their brown skin instead of the truth that they are parasites plain and simple. The USA based upon it's European forbears trying to wipe out Indians and then import Africans, created this 'racial' mess and now everybody is paying for it in one way or another.

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I've lived in the Deep South and met people with no more (even arguably less expressive) racist views than I have in Europe - I suppose it's the historical implications that make it more uncomfortable (alike anti-Antisemitism/neo-Nazi's in Germany).

The South is particularly poor and there's massive class problems: you will find large areas where 80% of people live on food stamps, 60% of people are illiterate and 90% are black ... rather than the problems of welfare dependency and crime being associated with social conditions, they're associated with race. Often it's the poor people from different ethic groups voicing racist views, rather than identifying problems lie in government and upper class exploitation.

However, while I encountered people who begrudged African American people, they would still socialize with non-white people and never reflect their ideals towards anyone - not that that necessarily makes it acceptable, but it's a far cry from intimidation and slurs that dominated society in the 60s.

Of course you will find pockets of violent homophobic, racist misogynists ... but unfortunately these exist worldwide.

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We've elected a black man twice to the presidency and Louisiana and South Carolina have governors who are of East Indian orgin. I'd say we've progressed a bit here in America.

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Today, blacks in general are a hell of a lot safer in the south than they are in Chicago, Detroit, DC, Baltimore, Philly, Oakland and elsewhere.

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Quite right!

"A real man would rather bow down to a strong woman than dominate a weak one"

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Overall, from what I understood you are saying there, one can definitely encounter symbolic violence in the South (racist graffitis, cartoons, offensive representations of Black people or political opponents - President Obama) rather than overt racism or actual violence.

Fair enough!

I was in the South only briefly, but I have to say people were exceptionally nice and hospitable towards me. And no I am not American.

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This was on TV tonight - December of 2014 - and nothings changed at all. It doesnt have to be the South - its the whole country - oh maybe not as bad but racism lives on and we are still a divided nation based upon race. The next generation is better than the last - it will take a couple more and maybe race wont matter - maybe but Im not sure.

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I'm from the lily white state of Minnesota. People in this region of the nation look down with derision on our fellow people of European descent in the South often referring to them as "ignorant racists." I strongly disagree with the Northern attitude toward the South. On the contrary, I think Southern whites living amongst the apes have a far more enlightened view on the true nature of the black man. Minnesotans actually tend to view blacks as "equal" to whites. But honestly, what do white people living in all white neighborhoods in all white cities in a predominately white part of the country know about blacks. Its the Northern view of blacks the is characterized by supreme ignorance...


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In case you've never opened a history book, ever, why don't you take a look at your own continent? The US couldn't be as racist as Europe if we TRIED. Jesus effing Christ, do people have the memory span of goldfish? It's not opinion, it's not debate, Europe has a LONG and ignorant history with racism. How could someone who calls himself 'progressive' be so WILLFULLY ignorant? Absolute trash.

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I lived right near Chicago all my life and have traveled to Nashville more times than I can count. The idea tha the south is still racist is moronic, backwoods dumb thinking because people like to thinkk the south of being that way STILL...

It's not.

I've been to Nashville and walked in with my hispanic girlfriend(I'm white) and were treated just the same with just amount of respect as anyone else at the local/out-of-town dives. I've been in bars with 'black cowboys' and noone raised an eyebrow; in truth noone gave a flying *beep*

Now you wanna talk about some racist *beep* whites and minorites); go to the southside of Chicago and try walking around. You can then speak about racism. I walkwd around my girlfeinds old neighborhood with her in the latina part of Chicago and got some lame ass BS yelled at us(peurto ricans/mexicans don't like whites dating there kind, i know it's always the white people who are accused of this); but I was called all kinds of *beep* and she is apparently "white washed".

The south is pretty far progressive compared to what I'm from.

Oh, and my buddies Uncle lives in a town of 85 people way out in backwoods TN. His neighbor? Some black dude who rides over in his lawnmower with a 6 pack of beer. Him and my buddies uncle chill every Sat over there beautful property.

Southern racism is so overrated it's mindblowing. Come to Chicago sometime! That's racism.

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no worries, I know quite a bit about racism in Europe, and I'm not comparing one to the other, or saying one is fundamentally more racist than the other. (not to mention how futile such a debate would be comparing a continent with a history of a couple of millennia versus one of about 250 years)
but my question was not about Europe, or comparing European racism versus racism in the USA. It was about the current situation of racism in the south of the USA.

but I believe the police in the USA ample illustrated what I wanted to know through this post.

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It's not much different than the Nazi Party in Europe. Where it's not the norm in most southern states, it does exist. Most Americans write them off as crazy evil people (hence why they wear the hoods).
But even in '50s '60s southern American, there were many people who didn't believe blacks should be beat the way they were.

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