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So what was the FBI's agenda?


They acted like they really didn't give a shit what happened to the hostages. They didn't ask for much of an update on what the hell was going on inside. They just got in the chopper and flew around the building hoping maybe to take out a couple bad guys.

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They were going to fly the helicopters to the roof under the guise of them being the escape 'copters the terrorists requested. Once there, they'd shoot the terrorists, and try their best to minimize civilian casualties. You know, just like fucking Saigon, eh Slick?

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Lol!!
Maybe they were meant to look cocky and a little incompetent as well, because that wasn't much of a plan.

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That depends on your expectations.
They were fine with stopping the bad guys and suffering a few casualties.
Seems like a good plan for that, more or less.

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I was in Junior High, dickhead.

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Are all FBI agents trained in helicopter mounted machine gun rescue?

I really think the two FBI yahoos should have got someone qualified in to enact their plan.
Like a Swat team maybe.

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Johnson knew what he was doing. H was about to bag one of the terrorists before the building blew. He knew his chicken.

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One of the FBI agents fought in Saigon. They were very competent in machine gun rescue plans

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I'm agent Johnson, this is special agent Johnson...no relation. 😂

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To smoke some ciggies and reminisce about Saigon

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I think they were a commentary on the likes of Neo-con government, even though it's before the term was widely thrown around... but the mentality that you can simply kill your way out of any crisis, coupled with the innate human desire for bloodlust and to be able to get away with it all because it's in the name of the law. They didn't care at all about the hostages; they just wanted to kill a bunch of bad guys and didn't care about the consequences either.

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They were a plot device to give a more spectacular ending. No one would be that stupid to think one helicopter could take out the terrorists just hovering around. A better idea would be for the chopper to secretly drop a 6 man anti-terrorist team onto the roof.

Their first priority would be to protect the hostages. When they're like "we might lose 20-25% of the hostages.. i can live with that". That's totally unacceptable. No FBI unit would think that. The movie has them say that so you don't feel bad when they get blown up.

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Exactly. It's the classic plot cliche of the cops who are supposed to be supporting protagonists to be incompetent/self-centered so the good guy can do all of the heroism themselves and look cool when they succeed. There's a reason why this movie is called one of the biggest "Hollywood" action films of all time.

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It's kinda stock writing if you ask me. The second die hard movie handled that plot point better when it turned out that the army guys who were sent in to help were actually in cahoots with the bad guys all along. That's much better writing.

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Truth be told they were ignorant about shutting off the power. Gave Hans and his men exactly what they wanted.

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That was a part of their training, in their play book, even it did not work, no harm done, as far as they were concerned.

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They were the provider of miracles.

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It’s a somewhat amusing recurring theme: In these kind of movies the FBI is often depicted as arrogant and condescending, barging onto crime scenes, taking over from the local police, and ordering them to "step aside." In these movies, it’s the cops who are shown to have a better understanding of the terrain and human nature than the federal agents. This trope serves to highlight the image of the ordinary, heroic American.

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Well put. Unless the main characters are FBI, then they're the best agents ever.

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