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was Lorraine sexually repressed back in 1955 or something?


She also did mention to Marty/Calvin that kissing him was like kissing her brother.

so, llving in that house with her mother and father and kid siblings, was Lorraine sexually repressed where she had to control herself at home but when she was out with her gal pals she let loose once in awhile or something?

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It was the 1950s, everyone was sexually repressed! Lorraine was just doing what teenagers have been doing since the beginning of human history: rebelling.

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The birth control pill did not exist in the 1950's. It was impossible in a lot of places for single women---AND married couples to get birth control. Condoms were not found/easily found in a supermarket.

Stella Baines had 6 kids!!

By contrast Lorraine only had 3--even in the 'not nice' timeline. Lorraine presumably has access to more healthcare..etc options and does not want to spend all of her time getting pregnant She has a 'hope' chest in the first movie, but the focus of these hopes is finding a guy to make out with. She doesn't necessarily want the exact fate as her mother.


Lorraine would feel weird kissing Marty because she gave birth to him in another time line. She instinctively knew they were related by blood and therefore she could not make out. This is also the studio's way of keeping the scee 'clean'.

And Jennifer and Marty themselves only have two when we meet them Marty's heritage (according to the third film) is Irish. We never learn what he personally believes and/or practices. The film is not a religious movie.

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"The birth control pill did not exist in the 1950's. It was impossible in a lot of places for single women"

So, which is it?

"Didn't exist" or "Impossible for single women"?

You can't have it both ways.

In any case, Lorraine was a typical, horny teenager - although unrealistically 'forward' and aggressive about it (women don't have to be aggressive, it's not their role in the mating ritual. Women seduce, men 'attack', and that's the pattern. Then woman can say yes or not - women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of marriage).

I think that's where a lot of this movie's humor comes from - that Marty's mom is so manlike when she's young, but so realistically female when she's older. She's a hypocrite 'prude' and she's basically actually correct when she says 'girls shouldn't call boys' (it's wasted effort, when girls can always get 'boys to call them' - there's a reason why man always makes the first move, because otherwise mating doesn't happen, or some other man does).

When you get all possible variations of free food brought to you 24h, and you can just take your pick, would you really go out of your way to get a sandwitch? No, you wouldn't.

This is why both young Lorraine and Jennifer are unrealistic as women - they would never have to call Marty or chase Marty in ANY way - they would just act cute and 'sexy' and just wait to be 'seduced' - this is the female mating strategy. Look at any 'guide for women', and see how it NEVER says 'approach a man, and then..'. It always advices women what to wear, how to look, how to flirt, what gestures to use to attract a man, etc.

Women attract, men chase, that's just how it goes. Women that act like young Lorraine are extremely rare, to the point of most men never experiencing that (unless they have high status, like a movie star). Man is the one that has to do the chasing.

We're talking about 'regular men' here - obviously this changes if a man has pre-selection, so the woman has to compete.

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LOL. It was both

The pill was approved in 1960, but single people could not use contraceptives throughout the entire country until 1972. Not a very fun time. Yes she's repressed compared to today where individuals can decide for themselves if/when they use contraceptives.

Re the kissing her 'brother' well, she ended up giving birth to Marty. So of course she's supposed to feel awkward about actually making out with him.

So she stops.




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Lorraine is not hypocrite, you are comparing 2 different versions of her. Lorraine from the opening is telling the truth when she says never chased boys. She didn’t have to. Her father hit George with the car, and since he had a crush on Lorraine, he probably didn’t resist her advances. So Lorraine grew up believing in fate.

When Marty was hit by the car instead, he resisted her advances, so she has to be more outgoing to try and get the man she loves. This version of Lorraine grows up to like Jennifer when she calls Marty.

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she is aggressive within the culture she lives in. That's not being a hypocrite. She had figured out how to chase boys with what she was allowed to do. She took off Marty/Calvin's pants while he is recovering from being hit--and 'watched over him'

She worded the response to mean 'chasing within the general society' which no she did not engage in. She did not call up a boy out of the blue and ask him out. This was appropriate for Jennifer Parker and her generation but Lorraine considered it too aggressive.

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Lorraine is not hypocrite, you are comparing 2 different versions of her. Lorraine from the opening is telling the truth when she says never chased boys. She didn’t have to. Her father hit George with the car, and since he had a crush on Lorraine, he probably didn’t resist her advances. So Lorraine grew up believing in fate.


That is true, but we can't discount original timeline Lorraine exaggerating her prudishness to her kids (do as I say, not as I do).

There was a Raymond episode where Ray's mom Marie greatly approved of his brother Robert's girlfriend Amy over Ray's wife because Amy was a "good girl" (virgin). In Marie's estimation, girls should remain virgins until they marry like she did. Of course, it turns out that Marie's husband Frank spills the beans that not only did he and Marie have sex before getting married, but they *had* to get married to Marie's horror!


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That Raymond episode was epic. Frank's reaction "She said WHAT?"

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"Frank, NO!!!"

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Look at any 'guide for women', and see how it NEVER says 'approach a man..

you say that as if books showing girls how to get a man are lying around all over the place :)

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she probably saw one of those 'movies' they showed single-sex health classes back then. The type of movies they spoofed on sitcoms which had the boring adult voice droning on and the campy unrealistic acted out scenes about how 'teenagers' acted/what they did with each other.

No they may have not always been 'books' but material was apparently produced. Otherwise it would not have been parodied later on.

personally I think the 50's would have been a very unpleasant time to live in myself. Am glad I grew up in the 90's.

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