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Never noticed the little details in this before


My family watched this during our most recent Christmas season, (despite me not wanting to include it in our Christmas movies collection), and I was actually surprised at the little details I missed as a kid.

A fascinating one involves showing why people would blame "little gremlins" in malfunctioning machines, usually involving the inventions the dad in the family would make. According to what the mom said, dad's inventions would work for the first few weeks (and he'd let his family test them out at home), but then they'd start malfunctioning. (I asked my brother how they were able to afford that house if the dad kept making crappy inventions that didn't work and nobody sane would buy them. He told me in the novelization that only one of the dad's inventions ever worked, and he had a patent on it, allowing them to afford a middle-class house like that in upstate New York, which was pricey even in the 1980s).

Another interesting irony involved the guy with the snow plow. He apparently fought in WWII and kept complaining about how America had outsourced manufacturing of our gadgets and everything else overseas in exchange for crappier knock-offs, claiming that American-made products were still the best in the world. He then bragged about how, compared to his foreign-made cars, his snow plow, which had been built in an American factory, and never given him trouble, never had issues with "little gremlins" in the machinery. And guess which item the real gremlins use to attack him and his wife in his home later in the movie? The American-made snow plow!

I also thought the boy and girl in the story were high school age when I watched as a kid. Turns out they're not. They appear to be early 20s, probably either straight out of high school, or going to a local community college while earning money working at the bank.

Plus, I thought the young boy in the story was the main guy's little brother. He was actually the next-door neighbor whose dad sold Christmas trees.

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"I also thought the boy and girl in the story were high school age when I watched as a kid. Turns out they're not. They appear to be early 20s, probably either straight out of high school, or going to a local community college while earning money working at the bank"

The characters may have been high school age, even if the actors were

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I always assumed they were just put of hogh school and starting their careers. We had a lot of 18-19 year olds in the 80's and early 90's who did that. So I figured it was the same for Billy.

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There’s an interesting subtext between the older wise Asian man who doesn’t want to sell Gizmo and his greedier son who sells him to the father with the set of rules.

The father hands it over to his son who gets it all wrong and havoc ensues.

There is an anti commercialisation theme along with keeping manufacturing at home.

The fathers inventions are dumb but that was what it was like. My uncle was fascinated by electric can openers which promptly broke down. If something could be made electric even if it didn’t have to be or if it could do 2 or more things at once people got excited by them.

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MY FATHER IN LAW PRACTICALLY LIVED AT RADIO SHACK...HE WAS A GREEK IMMIGRANT AND HE THOUGHT NEW TECH WAS THE GREATEST THING EVER.

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I think the dad's inventions kept breaking down for two reasons: one, he didn't think them through entirely, and two, he used cheap materials to build them. A good engineer always tests a new machine thoroughly and sees what will work and what won't work.

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Most of them were really stupid. Like taking existing inventions and adding other things which over complicated them.

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I know what you mean. Who needs an egg-cracker when you can easily do it with a bowl edge, your fingers, and a have a sink nearby? Who needs a phone remote when you can just walk over and answer it? Many of his inventions weren't that clever, you're right about that.

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Speaking of electric can openers my parents just bought a portible one and anytime I am at their house I can't figure out how to use it. It's annoying. I have a non electric one in my home and prefer it.

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I remember back in the early 80’s my uncle had an obsession with them. They would break down often, he went through a few before losing interest.

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Little details?

I bet you never noticed that the movie was set at Christmas either.

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Interesting. Chris Columbus wrote a great script. So many different layers to this, as the 'Gremlins' in the machines and such.

Spielberg did well as a producer as he contributed a few good ideas. Originally when Billy finds the science teacher dead in his class, he was meant to be found killed by Earl the Gremlin, with his face covered in needles like a pin cushion. Spielberg then said it would be better if the teacher had just a single needle stuck in his butt cheek, thus adding to the dark comedy element as opposed to outright horror (which is what Dante's film The Howling was).

Gremlins has been one of my favourite films since seeing it on a rented vhs as a kid. The films from the 80s have so many different layers to them that you can enjoy the more you watch them.

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I read about some of that stuff myself. Turns out the film was originally meant to be much darker, including having the mom killed by the gremlins, but the entire cast rebelled when they heard about that part, and refused to do any more work until it was taken out of the script. I'm glad they did. Gremlins is partially successful because of the dark comedy element, and that wouldn't work if they made parts of it too grim.

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Yes, in the original script the Gremlins were supposed to cut mom Peltzer's head off and put it in the washing machine where Billy would come home to find his mom's head spinning around with the other laundry (in another draft they threw it down the stairs). I didn't know the cast rebelled against that, that's interesting, they were right!

Agreed. The shift away from outright horror to the dark comedy element was genius. It's what made the film so enjoyable. The film still had an edge but without going too far as the funny parts brought everything together. Jerry Goldsmith's score is one of the greats.

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One of my favorite things from this is the mom kicking the gremlins' asses in the kitchen. Quite a difference from her getting her head cut off.

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Same here. The microwave kill is legendary. All these idiots talking about weak female characters in the past, well mom Peltzer slaughtered almost every Gremlin in the house except the leader (Stripe) who was hiding. It's one of the highlights of the film.

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