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This movie is just all about nothing.


That's it.
Nothing.
Just a big ball of nothing where nothing at all happens.

No doubt Kubitch did no less than 500 takes of everything even where someone was just sitting there barely moving.

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Who’s Kubitch?

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The OCD idiot who made this movie.

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Kind of like you with your name.

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Read the book. You'll feel better.

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Why? The film should be enough.

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life is a big ball of nothing.
so. what's your point?

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Warren, I'm shocked that you don't like this. It's a great piece of film. In fact, this is not the type of movie you watch, it's the kind you experience, there is a difference.

Try it again sometime in the future, maybe you will have a different opinion.

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Whats the difference between watching a movie and experiencing a movie?

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The experience mills, the experience..

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Its still too dangerous with Covid lurking to walk into a theater. Especially an IMAX one, which is a super spreader and I will don't what to be known as a murderer

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"it's not the type of movie you watch, it's the kind you experience"

That's a saying that does sound like film snobbery or pretentious but it's absolutely true about this and I'd say Lawrence Of Arabia as well.

I've never and would never even attempt to watch either of them on a laptop or smallish TV. Both of them need to be seen on the biggest screen possible with surround sound.

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That might be the reason why I didn't like this movie. I saw it on a 13 inch Zenith b/w TV set

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>>> I saw it on a 13 inch Zenith b/w TV set <<<

lol, I hope you're joking but if not, there's your answer. You just didn't "experience" it.

They show this movie occasionally at my local imax theater, if that gives you any idea of what I mean by "experience". That's impressive for a film made in the 60s.

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But I still can't go to a theater, let alone an IMAX. Covid is still lurking out there and is very dangerous. Please be careful

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go in the morning , there will be lots of social distancing

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But in an IMAX theater, the higher sound and resolution spreads Covid even faster and in greater distances. Be careful out there

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No wonder you support Trump!

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I had a similar reaction to THE DEER HUNTER last time I saw it. When I was a teenager and saw it expecting a hard-hitting Vietnam adventure, I was shocked at how little it was about Vietnam but also at how emotional of a drama it was. I thought it was a great movie but not about action and more about characters - one man who loses his mind in Vietnam and another who has to go find and save him. Then I saw it again a few years ago and I realized that the movie was far more simple than I had given it credit for and essentially just grasping at straws trying to keep things meaningful and hides behind minimal dialog to try to come off as more high-minded than it really is.

2001 is very similar. I thought it was brilliant when I was young but the older I get, the less impressed I am with the story and the themes. It's far more subtle in terms of dialog spelling things out for the audience (like 2010) but it gets lost in its own artistry and fails to create any kind of narrative momentum.

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Deer Hunter also has the weird premise that a group of friends would all be in the same ‘platoon’ or whatever in ‘Nam. I don’t think it works like that.

Still a good film but perhaps not the classic it’s labelled as (and you have to wade through some pretty tedious wedding stuff before you get to the awesome ‘mau!’ scene)

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Hah yeah exactly. When I saw it as a kid, I was perplexed as to why the wedding scene at the opening takes up almost an hour of movie. I would have rather it just started with them working in the steel plant, then deer hunting, and then in Nam. It would have been just as much of a de-evolotion as the film needed to convey the point, and given plenty of space to set up the character dynamics along the way.

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It's pretty good, but Kuby should probably cut out the 30 minutes in the middle where nothing happens.

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The whole section on the moon just totally kills the movie and should have been heavily abbreviated. It would have been better to focus entirely on the Jupiter mission and leave out all the stuff with William Sylvester. We are led to think he's going to be the main character of the film but then it just switches and all his scenes are rendered moot. This has a lot to do with why the movie feels like such a drag; having to switch from one set of characters to another mid-film (albeit the second set is far more interesting).

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William Shatner was not in this film.

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William Sylvester was though as the character "Heywood Floyd" - Sylvester was an American actor working in England best known for this film as well as starring in GORGO.

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I mean... it's a fairly straightforward sci-fi story about human evolution having been kickstarted by an alien species, and humanity's first contact with it.

Like with pretty much all art films, it seems to me people have this weird tendency to try and read way too much into it.

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Check out this interesting interpretation that offers clear evidence from the film itself that it's about something deeper than evolved extraterrestrials helping humankind (although that's of course the surface explanation), something any viewer can actually relate to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYcekxnsjyY

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Fascinating Wuchak. Thanks for posting this video.

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