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"Hail Zelenskyy!" 🇺🇦 Russian Propaganda 🇷🇺 Busted 🤣 🤣 🤣


Agressor Russia is full of fear, especially of strong Ukrainian President Zelenskyy.
Betimes their helpless campaigns can be funny. ☺

This Russian production went viral (even the mentioned number in it is wrong):

"Hail Zelenskyy!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1WBb9v9xQ



That's behind the "Hail Zelenskyy" Video
Bundeswehr Soldiers plunder the apartments of Germans - to help Ukraine?
This conveys a satirical video that spreads quickly.
Apparently it comes from Russia.


Outrageous happenings in a small wine-growing village in the Palatinate:
A military squad rings the doorbell of a picturesque house and clears out the apartment of the residents!

The short film suggests, the items are confiscated for Ukraine.
The video clip went viral.
In fact, only the record from the Palatinate that is shown at the beginning of the film comes from Germany.
And is actually a six-year-old photo.

T-online investigated the story behind the propaganda strip.
The authorship was attributed by Russia to the german right-wing AfD.
In fact, it's a Russian production.

The bitter satire intends to undermine support for Ukraine in Germany.
In the past Russia already put great effort into such messages on the Internet.
A German Telegram channel showed the video early.

At the end of the film, a grim-looking Bundeswehr Soldier takes the stuffed animal from the family's child.
A Leopard. 🐆 ☺

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ukraine/id_100214276/-heil-selenskyj-so-stellt-russlands-propaganda-die-bundeswehr-dar.html July 27, 2023

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Just to invite "Pete314" to discuss the video clip where the video clip is. 🤩​

https://moviechat.org/nm3305952/Volodymyr-Zelenskyy/64e666d69ca8854609ae2a3c/Is-Zelensky-next?reply=64f81325603582098ffedc18 OP "Onan" the Masturbator

LEOPARD 🐆​...Hahahaha ☺

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Russia is making a fool of itself. 🪆​
They must be VERY desperate.

Ukraine claps back after Russia puts Zelenskyy on 'wanted list'
Moscow has sought to kill the Ukrainian President since the beginning of its full-scale invasion.

The addition of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to the Kremlin’s 'wanted list' shows "the desperation of the Russian state machine and propaganda," Ukraine’s ministry of foreign affairs wrote in a statement Saturday.

The list is an online database of those the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs accuses of being criminals. Russia reportedly said the Ukrainian leader was wanted "under an article of the criminal code" but did not provide further details.

Moscow has sought to assassinate the Ukrainian president since the beginning of its full-scale invasion of the country in February 2022, when Russian President Vladimir Putin called on the Ukrainian army to overthrow Zelenskyy.

In February Moscow added Estonia Prime Minister Kaja Kallas to its 'wanted list' for "desecration of historical memory and hostility towards Russia".

In its statement, the Ukraine ministry said that Moscow is "at a loss for what else to invent to garner attention". It also stressed that "unlike the worthless Russian announcements, the International Criminal Court’s warrant for the arrest of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin on war crimes charges is real and enforceable in 123 countries".

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-claps-back-russia-volodymyr-zelenskyy-wanted-list/
May 05, 2024

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P.S. (just to get the connections)

Producing irrelevant new OPs weren't enough to bring me down in the "Latest Posts".
Onan needed to puke. ☺
https://moviechat.org/nm3305952/Volodymyr-Zelenskyy/66385801a88d1f37e5bf5e02/I-see-this-little-puke-is-trending-again OP OnanTheBarbarian

Wichs Dir einen, Onan aka GAMEBOY! 🤘🏽​

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Russia already captured the Donbas. The war is over. Time to stop the killing and destruction. Russia has offered negotiations.

And I don't need to puke. I said Zelensky is a "little puke". He's like 5'6" and has a string bean nose.

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You needed to puke out new OPs, dearest.
With your dirty games you mess with the wrong person, GAMEBOY.

And you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
https://moviechat.org/nm1269884/Vladimir-Putin/65f1bc372408cf050207b612/Dictator-Putin-can-count-his-last-Days?reply=662e140466a72d7514b0e343

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Something tells me you're one of those people that is shrugged off as not coming across as coherent because English isn't your first language but in reality you are equally incoherent in your native language.

That and you're definitely batshit crazy.

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SemiAnimus (821) 2 hours ago
Something tells me you're one of those people that is shrugged off as not coming across as coherent because English isn't your first language but in reality you are equally incoherent in your native language.
That and you're definitely batshit crazy.


And here's SemiAnal again.
Apparently he forgot our little encounter with this his account.
Now he tries to appear like public opinion. 🤣​

Guten Morgen, S.! ☼

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Zelensky has admitted he needs to make peace. There is no way he can win, but at this point Ukraine cannot be trusted not to just build up again and again and attack Russia, so Russia is going to cut them off from the sea. Then it doesn't matter if they join NATO or not.

To avoid that Zelensky is trying to force European countries to send Ukrainian refugess back so he can make them fight and die in the war. This is a war the US supported before it even happened. Zelensky has lost, Russia has lost, the US has lost ... no one has won or will win. Even Russia who annexed these areas of Ukraine just inherited a big liability that it has to rebuild. All to keep Crimea which did not even want to become part of Ukraine, and which most Ukrainian were dead set against fighting for.

This is war's insanity.

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Oh yah? ☀️​

Putin has already strategically lost the War
"The same problem as Hitler"

Russia has been waging a war of aggression against Ukraine for more than two years.
Despite Moscow's current progress on the front, military economist Keupp sees the Kremlin on the losing end. In the long term, he's certain that Russia has no chance against the industrial potential of the West.

According to military economist Marcus M. Keupp, who teaches in Zürich, Russia has already strategically lost its war of aggression against Ukraine. "Putin continues, even though he actually should have called off the war in the fall of 2023. It was then apparent that the production rate could not keep up with the wear rate."

Russia will reach a point where it will no longer be able to perform militarily.
"The logic of attrition does not depend on any worldview. It's a question of logistics as in WWII. Whoever has the higher industrial potential in the long term and goes the distance will win."

Putin has the same problem as Hitler. "He had to win in the short term. Because in the long term he has no chance against the industrial potential of the West. That's the reason why he burns systems and people so massively at the front," Keupp continued. Putin wants a decision before "the entire massive arms industry in the entire Western world" gets started.

"The USA, South Korea, Pakistan, all of Western Europe produce against him."
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https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Militaeroekonom-Putin-hat-den-Krieg-bereits-strategisch-verloren-article24904754.html
April 26, 2024

Thank you for your support, USA! 🇺🇸​ ♥
You're absolutely right, Monsieur le Président Macron! 🇫🇷​ ♥
Please stare down our hypocritical socialist chancellor again, this time for some years. ☺
Our chancellor says "Yah, yah" cause the german majority wants that.
And then he secretly blocks every delivery to the Ukraine for as long as he can. ☻

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I think the west can certainly match and outmatch Russia in terms of military tech production over time - the problem is that the west military tech doesn't appear to be better than the russian military tech -
So what you end up with is 2 nations - with a crapload of weapons - one of which is being supplied by the west - but the problem is manpower shortage. The west cannot mass produce manpower - The only way to counter Russia's advantage is by having western boots on the ground. A smaller army cannot win against a much bigger army with much bigger mobilization potential if their military tech is on par.

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Ukraine wins just by continuing to exist.

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If you call that winning.

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It might be enough.

Russia thinks that a satisfactory end to the war will be Russia taking control of Ukraine again. Then Ukraine will cease to exist except as a name on a map

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Russia absolutely does not want to take control of a rebelling nation ... it would be like Afghanitan again. The US would be supplying arms and leadership.

Russia's purpose, I think, is to secure Crimea which they have owned since the 1600's, is very strategic ( like our Guantanamo ), and which they have dumped massive investment into. Since the war, and the peeling away of Ukraine from Russia, Crimea has been in a weird state, they were technically given to Ukraine by Kruschev in the 1950s, and were not Ukrainian. That created a confusion that as long as Ukraine was with Russia didn't make much difference.

When Ukraine was couped to the West and especially since it was threatened to join NATO, Russia should not have to give up Crimea or have NATO missiles placed within minutes of Moscow.

Make no mistake, we propagandize about this in the most transparent way, but this is the West attacking Russia, and Russia doing something about it.

When Russia defends itself, we get all kinds of BS propaganda articles in the West even today about Russia trying to remake itself as a global power.

I get the US worry that Russia could turn into another China, rich and powerful and a global competitor, but if there is a case for American global hegemony to be made, our government ought to make that case and get the backing of Americans - because the money it takes to fight these wars cuts into the lives of Americans bigtime, and in the case of Ukraine a big global cost too.

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>When Ukraine was couped to the West and especially since it was threatened to join NATO, Russia should not have to give up Crimea or have NATO missiles placed within minutes of Moscow.

There are already, or is already the potential for NATO missiles places "within minutes of Moscow" without Ukraine.

>Make no mistake, we propagandize about this in the most transparent way, but this is the West attacking Russia, and Russia doing something about it.

What was the west going to do, exactly? Launch a ground invasion against another nuclear power?

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[–] TrentnQuarantino (8583) 7 hours ago
When Russia defends itself, we get all kinds of BS propaganda articles in the West even today about Russia trying to remake itself as a global power.

You sound like a Russian influencer. Ukraine peacefully separated from the USSR in 1991. If Russia cared about defending itself, then they would not have provoked Ukraine with an invasion.

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> You sound like a Russian influencer.

No I don't, you are calling me names because you cannot face facts with zero arguments.

> If Russia cared about defending itself, then they would not have provoked Ukraine with an invasion.

Another illogical conditional. You might benefit from a logic class. This is just like when a petulant obnoxious child tells a parent, if you loved me you'd buy me this toy.

Russia determines what their defensive needs, not a featherweight like you.

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I described you, there was no name calling. You are far too sensitive it seems.

Russia, a nuclear power, went on the offense, that is far more defense then they needed.

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Nope, what I wrote is what happened - and you have no argument because all you can do is whataboutism - now go get *******

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>Russia determines what their defensive needs, not a featherweight like you.

Same argument Nazi Germany made to their landgrabs prior to WW2.

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1741587141501554740.html

Think about what your government is - who is holds the power - how long it's been that way.
Let's just say.... USA has been controlled by non-Anglo-Saxons for a very long time.

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> USA has been controlled by non-Anglo-Saxons for a very long time.

Have no idea where you are getting that info or what it is supposed to mean?

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I think you are either thick-sculled or pretending to be one.
I sent you a link - research it.

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I've researched it since before the war, clod. And the word is skull.

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Zelensky has admitted he needs to make peace. There is no way he can win, but at this point Ukraine cannot be trusted not to just build up again and again and attack Russia, so Russia is going to cut them off from the sea. Then it doesn't matter if they join NATO or not.

To avoid that Zelensky is trying to force European countries to send Ukrainian refugess back so he can make them fight and die in the war. This is a war the US supported before it even happened. Zelensky has lost, Russia has lost, the US has lost ... no one has won or will win. Even Russia who annexed these areas of Ukraine just inherited a big liability that it has to rebuild. All to keep Crimea which did not even want to become part of Ukraine, and which most Ukrainian were dead set against fighting for.

This is war's insanity.

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Please delete your double post.
Danke! ☼

P.S.
You'll remain one of my favourite Commies. ♥

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He's correct that Zelensky brought this turmoil on Ukraine and the world by his flirtations with NATO and his support for the fascist brigades which are trying to ethnically cleanse ethnic Russians from eastern Ukraine.

He's wrong because Russia has already won this war and there is no way Ukraine can drive the Russian military out of the Donbas at this point.

Crimea was given to Ukraine by the Soviet Union in 1954. It's 90% ethnic Russian and had always been part of Russia. What a farce.

Yes, this war is insane. 19 billion of American aid has gone to pay the pensions of retired Ukrainian officials. Everyone from Zelensky on down are lining their pockets while Ukrainian workers die.

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> He's correct that Zelensky brought this turmoil on Ukraine and the world by his flirtations with NATO

I don't think that, precisely, was the problem. From all my reading and listening, I think that Putin has a very clear vision of the problem - after all he is Russia's responsible ruler, and I think he takes the role seriously, and has to do what he kind balancing all factors.

So, Putin realizes that the West, mostly driven by the US, but with some heavy realities is after Russia because of its potential, and future potential. Meaning that they are a huge multinational country with almost 3 times the land mass of any other country. In the same way that China is a threat because of its massive resources and human resources, Russia is a threat because of what it could develop into. Also, their authoritarian systems allow them to move faster than the West. One reason why the West is suliminally trying to go more authoritarian - to meet the challenge.

So, the West desires the break up of Russia. It also wants to prevent Russia from engaging in the world economically because of the same mistakes it made with China - building up masses of capital. Ergo, step one was to separate Ukraine from Russia. Before this operation, Ukraine was about 1/3 of Russia's economy. It did a lot of heavy industry. That huge cargo jet we saw in he movie 2012 was built there, but most of the shipping, trains, and a lot of agricultural goods.

I think Putin accepted that as inevitable, but he also concluded that losing Crimea was too high a price. He could not control the Ukrainian people, where the US pumping money and bribery and CIA operations primed Ukraine for all this Western prosperity if they would join the EU. Which by the way never happened - massive unemployment before the war. Yanukovych wanted the best for Ukraine, but also felt a responsibility for Russia since they were so close. Yanukovych knew dropping Russia and joining the EU was not fair to Russia, so he was working to try to make Urkaine a neutral go-between from West to East - a win-win. CIA was having none of that, and caused the coup.

Putin realized if this continued, Crimea was threatened, and it was easy for him to peel off Crimea from Ukraine as it was for the US to peel Ukraine off from Russia. Crimea held what I think was a legitimate vote and decided to annex to Russia. Then Ukraine's reaction was to move to take Crimea back by force. Most Ukrainians did not really care about this, and wanted an end to this violence and war, so Ukraine kept intensifying their attacks on Donbas buffer between Crimea and Ukraine proper to the point where the violence was unacceptable and Russia moved in in what they called a police action, the Special Military Operation. Russia's blunder was to break off and head towards Kiev to split Ukrainian forces which they did not expect to be so strong.

The West propagandized this as Russia trying to recreate the USSR, and invade Europe- a flat out lie that should have been obvious to all, but it was relentlessly pushing in the US media. After Russia moved in, the West had Zelensky in a bind, if he settled with Russia, the West said they would pull support, and nationalist forces in Ukraine wanted to keep fighting to rid Ukraine of Russian influence.

To keep the war going is all around bad and helps no one, but negotiating a solution will not solve the West's problem to keep Russia down, so a different war will just continue maybe elsewhere. Russia's continued existence will still threaten the West, as does China, but now the two are allies.

What we are left with is the West knowing that eventually Russia and China both will become peer compeititors and the US will lose its power over the world.

My feeling is that was true, except if the US would be more global and cooperative, a true arsenal of democracy instead of the false advertising we do today blowing rainbows but killing leaders and showing the iron fist. The world must become much more civilized and equal, but everybody wants to rule the world, as the song goes. We, the US do not think we can be a benevolent empire, and our oligarchs don't want to give up power.

Bottom line is that we blew it in Ukraine. Where we could do some good is in the Middle East following through on destroying the dream of global caliphate and reforming Islam and freeing its people from their toxic systems. But war is the universal way of life we have settled on - and no one knows how to stop.

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Well said, Commie. 🚩​

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You can't really say anything because you do not have the intelligence or awareness to read and understand anything. As an AI bot all you do is look for a few key words and then put some stupid insult together or reiterate short propganda points from your array[] of BS.

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"AI" and "stupid insults".
Oh really? ☺
https://moviechat.org/tt2788316/Shogun/66285cd8a12e892c76af6572/Anjin-John-Blackthorne-was-based-on-this-real-person-William-Adams-pilot?reply=662b8de3024012037d2bc1a9

Your second reply in the subthread of YOUR double post I'll answer later.
Need something to finish in real life.

👋​

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I won't discuss your nonsense over and over again, Onan.
Read the article above.
https://moviechat.org/nm3305952/Volodymyr-Zelenskyy/64f80e6b603582098ffedbfa/Hail-Zelenskyy-Russian-Propaganda-Busted?reply=66387fe6a88d1f37e5bf5e58

RUSSIA invaded the UKRAINE.
RUSSIANS killed and still kill innocent civilians.
PUTIN is a DICTATOR and tries try to re-install the Soviet Union. 🤬​

And you're just crying again and again about your money. 🙄​
While you pretend to care about human lives.
Do you even pay taxes? ☻

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This is the propaganda story, but there are no facts to back it up, so when questioned about it all you do is throw insults.

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Apart from the fact that I replied to Onan, let's go step by step:
RUSSIA invaded the UKRAINE.
That's neither a "propaganda story" nor an "insult", just another fact.

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It doesn't matter that you think Russia invaded Ukraine.
The context and intensity of this extension of the Cold War changes over the last 10 years, and the US CIA was involved in Ukrainian government.
The insult is that you expect anyone to buy your empty-headed narrative.

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Nonsense. You're falling for the U.S. State Department's Cold War propaganda. Russia is no threat to us and NATO. They can't even quell the Ukrainians, what makes you think they'd attack even Poland?

The former Soviet states in central Asia are all Muslim. Do you really think Russia wants to ignite a jihad from its Middle Eastern allies?

Case in point 2008 and Russia's border war with the former Soviet state of Georgia. They helped two breakaway provinces separate from Georgia. Russia did not invade Georgia.

Why should I as an American or you as a German give a rat's ass about post-Soviet border skirmishes?

Russia does not want Ukraine, Georgia or Islamic Central Asia back. Stop with the hysterics. They are no threat to NATO and the West.

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"Russia does not want Ukraine..."

Are you saying that Russia invaded the Ukraine just for fun?!
Gosh, you'll do everything for 'your' money.
Even suspect me of "hysterics" (very manly), while you're supposedly worried about the dead Ukrainians (whom you try to disparage at every opportunity).

Cold war is over for a longer.
A hot war is raging in Europe and you're unaware of the consequences.
Putin’s dark designs: Restore the pre-1917 Russian empire
https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2022/03/01/putins-dark-designs-restore-pre-1917-russian-empire

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Cold Warrior bullshit. There are people in power with a lot to gain by an arms buildup.

Again, if Russia wanted Ukraine, why wait until 2022 to invade? If they had wanted Georgia, why stop with the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Why not use that as a pretext to invade Georgia? But Russia didn't.

Putin could not allow NATO in Ukraine. There would be missiles pointed at Moscow, it would abrogate Ukraine's neutrality pledge, and it would be a possible trigger for nuclear war.

Do I as an America like their border feuds with other nations? I'm old enough to remember the Cold War and I don't like Russia.

But this is U.S. State Department maneuvering to reignite the Cold War. Russia is no threat. This is Neo-Conservatism rearing its ugly head again. You're a fool to be sucked into this.

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"Russia is no threat."

Russia just invades other countries, rapes and murders preferably civilians.
Child abduction is also a popular Russian pastime.
Usual Russian games... only "Neo-Conservatism"...Hossa! 🪆​

Btw. this war began in 2014, shortly after the Ukrainians got rid of their corrupt Russian-controlled government.
#Euromaidan
#Revolution of Dignity
You simply worry about your money, money, MONEY!!!!
Means, you worry about nothing, YOU selfish idiot.

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It's less the money, and more the fact that the U.S. keeps meddling allover the world, always loses (Vietnam, Afghanistan, the quagmire in Iraq blah blah blah), and leaves these countries worse off than they were before we got involved. End this Neo-Conservative bullshit. After Ukraine they'll have another one lined up.

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Exactly...only "blah blah blah" from you.
Stop with your fairy tales and stop to tell utter "bullshit".

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Huh? I'm an American and I want neutrality in a war which has nothing to do with our national security.

Where's the fairy tale? Did we win Vietnam? Were we not just kicked out of Afghanistan?

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This discussion is neither about "Vietnam" nor "Afghanistan" nor "Iraq".
Spare me your dumb rhetorical questions.

And if you really think that Russian aggression is of no interest to the USA, you deserve the stupidity award.

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Uh, Russia helping Abkhaz and South Ossetian separatists in Georgia and seizing 20% of Ukraine called the Donbas? As an American I don't give a rat's ass and it's not worth another 50 year Cold War with Russia and the specter of a nuclear holocaust. No thanks, frau. Why the fuck are we getting involved in this nonsense?

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Don't talk about yourself in the pluralis majestatis "we".
Now you even try it with fear mongering "nuclear holocaust"...as your buddy Putin.
Luckily most of your fellow Americans can think further than a fat pig can jump.

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> seizing 20% of Ukraine called the Donbas?

I would care depending on motive and implications.

With respect to Ukraine, the US began this long ago pursuant to a long white paper written during or just after the collapse of the USSR, by the Rand Corporation - you can still find online if you look.

It betrays the strategy the US has of continual stress, attacks, sanctions, political moves against Russia for the sake of just degrading the Russian economy in hopes of causing a revolution and making Russians' lives miserable.

This is the 21st century and that is a shit policy for solving problems in the world. That said, it would not be a good thing for the US for Russia to get to the point that it is the #1 trading partner with the EU. That is the relevant issue here - but it has not been uttered once in any news report, and that is my #1 issue.

When the military in the US over-rides the civilian government, then the civilian government just becomes a reality show comedy joke. That is the core issue for the US that I can see.

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It's currently a "core issue" for your tsar Putin. 🪆

Partisans:
Russian unit refuses to attack Kharkiv Oblast

https://kyivindependent.com/partisans-russian-unit-refuses-to-attack-kharkiv-oblast/
May 11, 2024

There are many more sources.
This was the best article in English.

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> which has nothing to do with our national security.

Don't be so sure.

The sin of this war is that it was planned for a long time without the knowledge or consent of the American people. It was sold to us as Russia turning evil and first trying to take over Ukraine, then it was former Soviet satellite countries, then it was all of Europe, then the world. Putin was given the Hitler media treatment - not that Putin is a good guy - you have to remember that Putin is the head of a country marked for revolution and breakup by the United States, so he's not as easy-going or as stupid as our American Presidents.

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And here's my favourite Commie again. 🚩
Right on time (pun intended).

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You are not hiding your ignorance by constant troll insults trying to mask the fact that you know nothing and cannot think.

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Another example of Russia's lying propaganda:

The Great Lie Behind Russia’s Victory Day
Russians believe their nation contributed more than any other to win World War II.
The uncomfortable truth is that Moscow actually started the war in 1939 as Nazi Germany’s ally.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/05/09/the-great-lie-behind-russias-victory-day/

Unfortunately that's true. *ähem*
Fortunately not all Russians believe their murderous president Putin.

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