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Gina Carano “Grotesquely Trivialized The Holocaust,” Disney Says; Wants Suit On ‘Mandalorian’ Firing Tossed

posted 7 months ago by Satan2016 (25525)
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https://deadline.com/2024/04/gina-carano-disney-mandalorian-lawsuit-latest-1235880689/

In a filing Tuesday night to dismiss Gina Carano‘s wrongful-discharge and sex-discrimination lawsuit over being fired from The Mandalorian, the Mouse House states that the former MMA fighter lost her Star Wars series job in 2021 because her decision “to publicly trivialize the Holocaust by comparing criticism of political conservatives to the annihilation of millions of Jewish people—notably, not ‘thousands’—was the final straw for Disney.”

Seeking a June 12 hearing in federal court in downtown Los Angelese before Judge Sherilyn Peace Garnett, the Daniel Petrocelli-represented Disney insists the Elon Musk-backed action should be tossed out “on the grounds that Disney has a constitutional right not to associate its artistic expression with Carano’s speech, such that the First Amendment provides a complete defense to Carano’s claims.”

Claiming her “words were consistently twisted to demonize & dehumanize me as an alt right wing extremist” during the very public dispute three years ago, Carano took the Bob Iger-run company to court in early February to get back her high-profile Mandalorian role of Rebel ranger Cara Dune and a TIE fighter full of damages.

[–] johnmiller (3889) 7 months ago

The ever-changing "reason" the PR flacks at Disney have come up with for her firing.

[–] papamihel (1616) 7 months ago

As a Jew I say she did not.
The Holocaust is there to be a lesson. On, among other things, how to effectively dehumanise a group of people in a civilised society.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 7 months ago

how to effectively dehumanise a group of people in a civilised society.

Like Israel is doing in Gaza right now. "They're not people! They're human shields!"

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

So if the Nazis received criticism and ridicule for their policies and their beliefs the same way that Republicans receive criticism from their political opponents, and they claimed to be victimised because of it, you would be sympathetic to the nazis, as a Jew.

Whether you're a Jew or a pencil sharpener, it is fucking demented to compare the scorn and political scrutiny that high profile conservative crackpots like MGT attracts, to the insidious, racial, genetic and religious hatred that the Nazi exploited, cultivated and legislated.

Unlike a Jew being born a Jew or a gentile born a gentile and so on, nobody is born a republican or a conservative. But quite clearly some people are born stupid and stay that way or get worse., judging by the fucking demented arguments that some people use to endorse Gina Carano's claim that being criticized for her political views comparing herself to children being terrorised, demonized and ultimately murdererd because of who they are and have been since birth.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 7 months ago

Lol. I don't like this woman. But her fatuous comparison of discrimination against conservatives to the holocaust is her free speech, not a crime.

[–] Narwhale37 (1226) 7 months ago

It's also the freedom to be unemployed lol

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11952) 7 months ago

Agreed. And her sex discrimination claim is bullshit.

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

Nobody's charging her with a crime. She's experiencing the consequences that some people face when they exploit their high profile to publish such distasteful and deluded comments.

It's not a crime to fire someone who publicly states hurtful things about a race of people when it harms the reputation of your business either.

You can be fired for being drunk when you are not at work but recognised as an employee and therefore representing the firm your work for, whether you intended to or not. Nobody needs to defend the right to be drunk. It sucks that it costs your job. But that's simply the other shoe dropping.

[–] robocat893 (15918) 7 months ago

Free speech comes with consequences. Next time you are on an airline say that you have a bomb and see what those consequences are.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14379) 7 months ago

Shoulda known Bob Ogre would be a fucking coward. He frankly doesn't want the lawsuit to get into a courtroom, because he doesn't want a bunch of dirty secrets unearthed that would then be leaked to the press, including the entire campaign to persecute Gina for her political beliefs. Sounds like a judge got paid off.

[–] RoloTony (1284) 7 months ago

Discovery is a bitch

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14379) 7 months ago

I heard his job used to be a weatherman on tv somewhere, and his legacy with Disney isn't gonna be as spectacular as he'd like it to be. All he seems to know how to do is have activists take over, spend money, lie, and kiss people's asses. There's a reason he almost lost several of his cronies on the Disney board a week ago. People investing money in his company were pissed at what he has done to Disney, and it's because of him that it might just fall apart in a few years.

[–] Zarkoff (1853) 7 months ago

There are all kinds of stories backing up Disney's reasons.

Republicans are privileged, most of them. Being one today is nothing like being a Jew in Nazi Germany!

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14379) 7 months ago

Uh huh, says the side that can say whatever they like online, the side that owns everything governing our society, and the ones who try to silence and punish everyone they don't like, including centrists. If anyone is behaving like a bunch of privileged Nazis, it's the Left, including their own modern Gestapo, AKA, Antifa. You would HAPPILY march us all off to death camps if you were allowed to, and if things keep going the way they are, that might just happen in a decade or two.

Besides, Bob is lying through is teeth. It wasn't the tweet about Germany's history (which wasn't actually about the Holocaust, it was leading up to it), his little tranny-loving pets had their heads explode when they bullied her into giving her pronouns on Twatter, and she made noises like a robot instead. Don't kid yourself if you think this is about history or privilege. He had that judge in his pocket.

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

Do you realise how fucking pathetic your posts look, even to other chickenshits (the ones who aren't your sock accounts)?

First the tweets about the nazis is fine. Then you are defending Carano because it was nothing to do with the nazi tweets. (Why defend her if the tweets are fine?) Then you are trying to make a distinction between the nazis when they were just rising and recently empowered when they just wanted to exterminate everyone born of a certain race, and the nazis a couple of years later when they actually started doing it. As if they were two different entities where it's OK to compare them to the first one and people aren't allowed to complain about being associated with the second one.

Only a fucking cretin with zero dignity or genuine conviction would write that kind of weasel worded diarrhea.

[–] moviechatterer (15583) 7 months ago

"the side that owns everything governing our society"

too funny
right wing victim mentality
we didnt lose the election - they cheated with their magic "rulez everthing" powers

"he doesn't want a bunch of dirty secrets unearthed "
"campaign to persecute Gina"
you be proper cray cray

I'd go so far as to say you've got a good shot at toppling tvfan as "most batshit crazy out there right wing deluded maga cult conspiracy nutjob" on the site

[–] RipRoss (557) 7 months ago

Another fine mess that Kathleen Kennedy has gotten Disney into.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14379) 7 months ago

The worst part is, she's never gonna get what's coming to her until she dies and goes to hell, like what happened to OJ recently.

[–] RipRoss (557) 7 months ago

Sadly true.

[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Yeah, making bad movies is as bad as murder

jfc

[–] VinceD (9805) 7 months ago

In California, you can't fire someone for their political beliefs; they are protected under state labor laws.

I'm wondering if they will settle out of court in Carano's favor. Disney seems to have dug themselves into a hole with their public statements. Also, the fact that Pascal made social media posts about Trump and Nazis, yet faced no repercussions, seems to complicate their position.

Anyway, I could care less what her political beliefs are, I like Gina Carano and thought her character in Mandalorian was cool.

[–] retieredactor (937) 7 months ago

https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/fans-raise-pedro-pascal-tweets-amid-gina-carano-firing/

[–] VinceD (9805) 7 months ago

some pulled Pascal’s name into the controversy surrounding…(Pascal) was not fired for this post on Instagram comparing Trump supporters to Nazis and Confederates.

Yes those would be the social-media posts Pascal made I was referring to that Disney didn't seem to have a problem with.

However, that article provided new information I was not previously aware of:

Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future,”

If this statement is accurate, it suggests she wasn't actually fired; her old contract simply expired, and Disney chose not to renew it. Not renewing a contract can be significantly different from firing someone, and it might not be protected by California labor law.

If Carano's contract just ran out and Disney opted not to renew it, their legal stance could be much stronger. They could argue that they were under no obligation to continue employment beyond the agreed terms, sidestepping any implications of firing her for potentially discriminatory reasons.

This all suggests that Carano’s case is not as strongly positioned as I initially believed it to be in my earlier post. In fact, I believe Disney's actions might even be shielded under California laws since the company could argue they were merely exercising their own rights to political speech.

What Disney did was still screwed up, and I don’t agree with writing her off the show, but I'm not sure if they legally did anything wrong.

That said, I’m obviously not a lawyer and this is just me spitballing shit I have no business talking about, and I could very well be wrong.

[–] Zarkoff (1853) 7 months ago

Yeah, life being a Republican in the US is nothing like being a Jew during the Holocaust.

They should have let her go so she can get her mental health checked!

[–] tom8 (3119) 7 months ago

pedro said trump voters are nazis........ should he get his mental health checked as well?

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

No he said that Trump had lost, the same as the cuntfederacy and the turd reich lost.

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

People around the world were being put into 'covid camps'. End of story.

If only the Germans had questioned why when the Jews first started going into the camps, then maybe so many might not have died because tyranny always has a start somewhere. It doesn't just happen overnight.

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

People like who? You?

How come the numbers of drooling rabid dipshits like you posting insane gibberish like this isn't going down if you are all being put in camps? Do they let you use the wi-fi in covid camp?

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

Sure, wifi is good in captivity so long as they allow it. Did those people who were welded into their homes in China have wifi too?

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

Are those welded in people you talk about keyboard warrior conservative/republicans who don't wish to endorse any support for LGBTTQ+ rights?

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

No. They were human beings, and why should their politics matter?

Want to support the alphabet peoples' rights? Go protest outside a mosque then and see how that goes.

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

It matters because you're the one implying that being put into camps is the consequence of being vocally politically opposed to those with the power or the desire to lock them up.

Don't blame me because the hollowness of your attempt to back up Carano's warning about people expressing conservative views being subject to oppression prompted you to jump the track to a conversation about people in pandemic lockdown in China.

It just shows how fucking demented you lot are that you conflate the topics of your imaginary mass incarceration of people expressing conservative opinions with the quarantining of civilians in a pandemic in a different continent when someone challenges you for anything substantial.

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

Sorry, you seem like an angry and hateful person who needs help in relating to others that do not know or who maybe don't share your opinion, in a calm and reasonable manner and who is incapable of seeing the point of where tyranny starts and freedom ends.

What happened to you to make you like that?

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

What about the pandemic lockdown in China? Why is at a suitable response to my query about Carano's claim of of people like her, who repost alt right dog-whistles on social media and receive criticism for it, being the same as Jewish people being persecuted for being born Jewish?

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

Wait a minute. I just have to dig out my lefty insults bingo card as I think I'm gonna win something bigly.

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

I don't have a minute. Just explain what China's quarantine has got to do with people ridiculing Carano for her stupid social media posts?

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

I would but you seem incapable of understanding because you don't even understand why she made the post in the first place.

Is there a rule in this place whereby I cannot talk about the bigger picture of the same subject and what the whole point of her tweet was or must I stick to only what she is being accused of by those who also miss the point?

[–] Martoto (5024) 7 months ago

There's a rule where you can fuck off if you just want to post spurious shite.

[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Were they? Examples?

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

News item which covers it - https://youtu.be/t9j3128hfFQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvuDH1G0NEk
https://youtu.be/Lxisq6ezXWc?t=27

Others talking about how they were locked in also - https://youtu.be/0K0YFQ8Ww5A

Nailing iron bars against their doors - https://youtu.be/Aj8nfD6cy9s

Just some examples.

[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Did anyone here defend the Chinese response to COVID?

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

I've often made people aware of it but I don't know about here. I don't post as often as I used to.

[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Everyone knows about the Chinese response to COVID. I don't recall seeing anyone defend it. Not sure what they did has to do with the USA, or Europe.

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

If you knew, why ask for examples then? I've seen plenty defending the draconian measures taken and attacking anyone speaking out about it. Why was it ok for lefties to gather in protest and riot in those days? How about the Canadian response to those truckers protesting it then? All the people who the Gov had removed from Twitter at the time. Turns out most of them were right too!

Gina's post was making the same point that dehumanising people and taking away their rights and freedoms, which the Nazis did to MANY people (not just Jews) starts somewhere and leads to somewhere really, really awful unless are free to people speak out and have their opinion about it.

[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

On a technicality, locking people their homes isn't sending them to a camp. I don't defend it, but just noting that specific distinction.

> I've seen plenty defending the draconian measures taken and attacking anyone speaking out about it.

There's a difference between lockdown measures and social distancing measures and nailing people into their homes.

>Why was it ok for lefties to gather in protest and riot in those days? How about the Canadian response to those truckers protesting it then? All the people who the Gov had removed from Twitter at the time. Turns out most of them were right too!

None of these points have anything to do with COVID. Stop gish galloping.

[–] keybored (2660) 7 months ago

Wow. I think you must be friends with Martoto as you both don't seem to get that it was the covid measures that caused her to make that tweet in the first place.

[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Okay. Did someone personally nail her into her house as a response to COVID?