Israel is slowly taking full control in Britain - Keir Starmer Discussion

[–] capuchin (3358) 7 months ago

'First Lady'? We have a parliamentary democracy here and, moreover, a constitutional monarchy. There's no such position as 'First Lady'. We're not you. Stop trying to graft conservative American perspectives onto other nations you know next to nothing about. Frankly, it's embarrassing.

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[–] DeckardB26354 (1213) 7 months ago

Well put capuchin.

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[–] moviechatterer (16282) 7 months ago

is shabbat where you dont work at the weekend?
I can get behind that.

or are you saying that Victoria Starmer wants to mutilate our penises?

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

What is it you think that Labour will do exactly?

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[–] retieredactor (1012) 7 months ago

Though, Keir Starmer, not Jewish himself - his wife and children are!
How will this effect his decisions with regard to Israel and their currently escalating war?

Same as Biden. All or almost all his kids married Jewish, so all grandkids are. How did none of these people marry an anti zionist Jew? There's so many out there with us, saying no to genocide but none in these families.

Same way it could potentially affect the U.S. if Kamala Harris were to manage to “win” the WH. Her spouse, Doug Emhoff is also Jewish.
I know this may be conspiratorial, but I believe her spouse may be at least one motive, among many, for elevating her. Just a thought.

All these presidents and prime ministers tend to be connected to Israel and Judaism one way or another.
Donald Trump son in law is Jewish and regards himself an Israeli as well. Trump Loves Israel.
Now UK PM is on the list too.

I Wonder Why? Israel is just loved across the board.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Okay... how does UK support for Israel, to whatever extent it is, impact ordinary Brits?

>Same way it could potentially affect the U.S. if Kamala Harris were to manage to “win” the WH. Her spouse, Doug Emhoff is also Jewish.
I know this may be conspiratorial, but I believe her spouse may be at least one motive, among many, for elevating her. Just a thought.

Trump is also massively pro-Israel. If that was a motive, a relevant motive, why would it matter with Trump being the other option?

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

Kind of true. Keir Starmer was mainly known for, at least from what I read on wikipedia (I only learned his name today after he was elected as PM of UK), antisemitism reforms, pledged to end antisemitism in labour party.

He was hardly known for anything else, yet he is now leader of the labour party, and of course PM.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

That's not why he was elected. Most people don't "know" him for that here specifically.

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

I think he was elected because people were unhappy about Tories, not because people liked him.

He became the leader of the labour party, other than the support of Jewish donors, I think also because of he was a new face, only started his political career in 2015, not much negative news about him as yet.

More often than not that is how elections go, you vote for someone not because you trust or even like the person, but because the other one is much worse. You choose the one less awful, or someone you barely know, a new face usually.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

>I think he was elected because people were unhappy about Tories, not because people liked him.

Yes.

>He became the leader of the labour party, other than the support of Jewish donors, I think also because of he was a new face, only started his political career in 2015, not much negative news about him as yet.

Got good reputation under Jeremy Corbyn. Professional background.

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[–] capuchin (3358) 7 months ago

He wasn't elected as prime minister of the UK. We don't elect prime ministers. He was appointed. And, yes, it matters.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Well yeah, Starmer doing that did matter - but it's more accurate to say it's not the only thing about him that matters in terms of him leading an electable Labour party.

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[–] capuchin (3358) 7 months ago

No, I meant the distinction between between being elected and being appointed matters. I'm not just mentioning it as a point of rhetoric or indulgent pedantry.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Oh I see, yes.

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[–] capuchin (3358) 7 months ago

We're in a thread with people talking about Victoria Starmer as 'the first lady' and suggesting Keir Starmer was 'elected' as prime minister. It's almost -- almost -- like they don't have the first clue about our politics and their opinions therefore don't matter. Almost.

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[–] FootOfDavros (8681) 7 months ago

Sort of agree but I think it's slightly more blurred than that.

e.g. They may not have had Boris on their ballot sheets but a lot of brexiteers were definitely effectively voting for him to be PM.

Plus Alistair Campbell was never elected anywhere but he certainly had a lot more power than a lot of people who were. It's therefore not inconceivable that Starmer's wife may have some influence...

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[–] capuchin (3358) 7 months ago

Yes, people vote on the basis of who they prefer to be in power (or not in power). And this includes their preference for prime minister.

We've had increasingly presidential-style election campaigns (with rare exceptions, such as 1992) since 1983. That's unfortunate.

But we still don't elect prime ministers in this country and the spouse of the prime minister has no official or ceremonial role in our politics.

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[–] maximmm (3405) 7 months ago

When you consider the miniscule percentage of Jews in each country, saying that these are all coincidences seems like a conspiracy.

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[–] maximmm (3405) 7 months ago

They also got Mexico a month ago - and Argentina prior to that.
UK is not alone.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

And doing what exactly? Starmer isn't of Jewish heritage, his wife is. What is it you think Israel, apparently through Starmer, will do?

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[–] AviAAksenazi (670) 7 months ago

Germany, Holland & NATO as well are all extremely pro Israel. They will do anything to protect The Jews.

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[–] maximmm (3405) 7 months ago

I'm talking about the leadership in particular.
I think around half of Biden's cabinet are Jews. Meanwhile, only 2 percent of the US population are Jews.
If you are a Jew, you should be aware of what is happening. More and more people are becoming aware that something is really off. I only became aware after October 7 - I know that most other folks woke up at that time as well.

What does the end of days prophecy say about all 10 tribes gathering in Israel? I suspect this is all leading to that, once the greater population of the world wakes up and deportations commence. I'd even say this is all being done on purpose.

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[–] FootOfDavros (8681) 7 months ago

What does the end of days prophecy say about all 10 tribes gathering in Israel? I suspect this is all leading to that, once the greater population of the world wakes up and deportations commence...

Great stuff!

Can you walk us further down this path, with the biblical stuff, etc...

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[–] maximmm (3405) 7 months ago

For me, it's just a theory - but if you are keen - look into Judaist end of days prophecy.
There's a bit about all tribes returning to Israel, and all countries turning against Israel, but Israel shall be victorious, bla bla bla.

Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism have somewhat similar end of days prophecies - they all have one thing in common, end of days is depicted as a good thing, because it eventually leads to the return of the messiah.

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[–] FootOfDavros (8681) 7 months ago

Thanks. I recently just rewatched the omen trilogy, hence the interest! 😂

They had a bit in the third one about Israel getting blamed for some dam being destroyed but they never really leaned into the biblical end days prophecies in the end...

Anyway, I'll dig a bit more into that 10 tribes stuff. Thanks 👍.

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[–] TheHardSell (2058) 7 months ago

70% of Biden's cabinet are Jews! Not half.

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

There is a saying that the US is a vassal state of Israel, that even looks to be true, from the way in US speaking against Israel is now considered antisemitism, and thus illegal.

But I think it is just both the US and Israel are controlled by the same group of Jewish billionaires.

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[–] AviAAksenazi (670) 7 months ago

We must all band together and stand up for Israel. They need us now in order to expand their land into Greater Israel. A land that in the future will be the capital of the world with a centralized gov located there. As a world we all pay tax to Israel and lend money from Zionist Banks. A future we all strive to reach. A perfect future under Zionist Rule.

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[–] maximmm (3405) 7 months ago

lol
it does sound wonderful, doesn't it? ^^

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[–] parkerbot (10625) 7 months ago

Someone can be Jewish and not support the killing of children.

Has she said something to indicate she supports killing children?

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

We will know soon enough from the action of her husband, someone who claims to be atheist but his wife and children are all Jewish.

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[–] parkerbot (10625) 7 months ago

We'll see but just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean this or that.

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

Of course not. The thoughts of Jewish elites have very little to do with Jewish people, just like the thoughts of billionaires have very little to do with average people.

Though the elections of Israel do not look good for those in Israel.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

His children are specifically Jewish, or are you just referring to their background?

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

I mean if I converted to the Jewish faith, maybe due to my marriage to a Jewish woman, and I decided to go into politics to target antisemitism, with the funding and support of Jewish community, claiming to be atheist would be a good cover.

I mean if my wife were Jewish and my children were Jewish, all the Jewish people I invited to my home I would be able to claim having nothing to do with me. I could claim my support for Israel were purely on moral and national interest grounds.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

This is a baseless conspiracy theory dude.

What is it you think Israel, apparently through Starmer, will do?

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

This is a baseless conspiracy theory dude.

That is what the shills of the establishment often say.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Your argument here is "Starmer isn't an atheist because of his marriage". Zero supporting evidence whatsoever.

I'll also ask again: What is it you think Israel, apparently through Starmer, will do?

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

We will find out soon.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

So you have no idea and are just talking absolute garbage.

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

That is what I would say about you. You wrote a lot but with almost no meaningful thoughts or content.

I often find talking to you is a total waste of time.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

I don't make baseless claims for which I have no evidence for. You are speculating that Keir Starmer is part of some global jewish conspiracy to do..... ???? something. Because he's married to a Jewish woman.

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[–] fc31 (6077) 7 months ago

Because he's married to a Jewish woman.

And he went into politics specifically targeting antisemitism.

For most people that is enough for reasonable suspicion.

I can only assume people not seeing that are pretending they did not.

Anyway, I know you are going to keep talking without anything new, so I am going to leave you here.

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

>And he went into politics specifically targeting antisemitism.

No, he didn't. He was in politics before he became Labour leader, and nor did he become Labour leader purely to focus on antisemitism forever.

>For most people that is enough for reasonable suspicion.

Almost no-one in the UK thinks this of Keir Starmer.

>Anyway, I know you are going to keep talking without anything new, so I am going to leave you here.

And you still haven't told me what you think Israel is going to supposedly make Starmer do.

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[–] seagal72 (2008) 7 months ago

Yeah, I mean all those Jews calling for "Jihad to Muslims" in the streets...not to mention all those (unpunished) 'Jewish grooming Gangs' eh?

You've clearly never stepped foot in the UK?

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[–] FootOfDavros (8681) 7 months ago

...not to mention all those (unpunished) 'Jewish grooming Gangs' eh?

You mean Pornhub and the likes?

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[–] Skavau (15993) 7 months ago

Any evidence for your claim Pornhub is completely controlled by Jews?

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[–] FootOfDavros (8681) 7 months ago

I thought I'd read a while ago it had been bought out by a Rabbi! That's no joke...

Anyway, I just posted this as it was an amusing, thought provoking, juxtaposition alongside that Muslim generalisation.

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