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Chauvin innocent, as we knew. A good cop taking on drug-addled scum in the name of public safety.


There was no evidence of injury or asphyxia to career criminal, Saint George. He died because he was a low-life drug fiend. Anyone who saw the reverse camera angle already knew this.

But the "racist" Chauvin (who was married to an Asian woman) had to go to jail for "murder", because those little black angels were ready to stage possibly the most peaceful protest in US history...

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1715465410856841628

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I try to avoid using the ignore function, but you never ever post anything except for your obsessive political whining time and time again. so I'm gonna make an exception in this case.

it'll be nice to have 1 less basement dwelling loser spewing politics in this place.

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it'll be nice to have 1 less basement dwelling loser spewing politics in this place.


You're leaving? I ain't going anywhere.

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All Chauvin had to do was get off of Floyd who was handcuffed then call for medical assistance. Then Floyd might be alive but Chauvin would not be in prison. Instead Chauvin murdered Floyd so that's why he is going to be in prison for the most of the rest of his life. Why are you making excuses for Chauvin?

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Floyd would have died regardless, he was off his face and took far too many drugs for his own good. He knew he was over dosing and went into a full blown panic attack/hysteria.

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That maybe true about Floyd but we will never know because Chauvin murdered him. Chauvin kneeled on Floyd for over two minutes after Floyd went limp. That's just one reason Chauvin is in prison.

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"A good cop taking on drug-addled scum in the name of public safety."

NOBODY is debating that, (except the 'good' bit maybe) but when you start going Judge Dread and becoming the judge and jury , you lose the moral high ground

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Actually, A LOT have been debating that since 2020. When you chuck out all the relevant details of his arrest and try to proclaim that he was "killed for passing a counterfeit bill", it gives you a good idea of the intellect/agenda you are dealing with.

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But the "racist" Chauvin..


I don't think Chauvin is racist one bit. To argue he was or wasn't is a strawman that gets away from the actual events that led to Floyd's death. But even if Chauvin was, that wasn't the reason he was convicted.

There is no evidence that Chauvin killed Floyd intentionally, nor is there evidence that he a racist, but Chauvin *was* an equal opportunity asshole who abused his professional authority and compressed the life out of Floyd.

He's not in prison because he's a racist, an asshole, or because he *intentionally killed Floyd*. He is in prison because his unprofessional conduct is what caused that POS life-long criminal scum to die and become a martyr for a wholly unjust cause.

There was no evidence of injury or asphyxia


Nor cancer, AIDS, liver disease, etc. But he did die from cardiopulmonary arrest.

"Medical examiners and independent experts testified in the Chauvin trial that while Floyd suffered from heart disease and hypertension, and toxicology tests showed recent use of the two drugs, none of these was the cause of Floyd’s death on May 25, 2020. Medical examiners ruled the death a homicide because law enforcement officers compressed Floyd against the road in a way that starved his body of oxygen, known as asphyxia, leading to cardiopulmonary arrest."

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-george-floyd-overdose-death/fact-check-no-evidence-drug-overdose-was-main-cause-of-death-for-george-floyd-in-2020-idUSL1N3241XJ

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Chauvin's knee was on the shoulder of Floyd, as we saw in the reverse footage, and as the chief medical examiner said. Floyd was a large, robust fella: he died because of fatal drug abuse, not because of a little bit of pressure. Chauvin absolutely had to be "found guilty" because blacks were poised to cause incalculable physical damage across America and the broader west. Besides the damage itself, the media would have to try to somehow not report it, because it would be perpetrated by little black angels. A nightmare all round, and so throwing away one innocent white life was far, far easier.

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He continues to regurgitate old propaganda and MSM where they lied and covered up the truth.

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All Chauvin had to do was get off of Floyd who was handcuffed and subdued then call for medical assistance. Then Floyd might be alive but Chauvin would not be in prison. Instead Chauvin murdered Floyd so that's why he is going to be in prison for the most of the rest of his life. That's the reality, Goober.

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Chauvin's knee was on the shoulder of Floyd, as we saw in the reverse footage, and as the chief medical examiner said.


Correct, proving that Floyd died from cardio pulmonary stress due to his chest being compressed by the knee on his shoulder.




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A 6'4" beast of a man having his wittle itty bitty chest crushed by scrawny 5'8" Chauvin? Nah. Saint George died because he was a criminal drug fiend.

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All Chauvin had to do was get off of Floyd who was handcuffed and subdued then call for medical assistance. Then Floyd might be alive but Chauvin would not be in prison. Instead Chauvin murdered Floyd so that's why he is going to be in prison for the most of the rest of his life. You are obviously too stupid to see what really happened.

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Your copy and paste ability is impressive, I'll give you that.

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Try having your hands cuffed behind your back and have a scrawny guy kneel on your upper body in order to judge the difficulty in breathing in that manner.

Between his weight, drug use, age, and bad heart, Chauvin's actions stopped Floyd's breathing and heart.

The irony is that St. George would probably have been dead in 6 months anyway from an OD or a robbery gone wrong. Chauvin deserves to be in prison out of sheer stupidity.

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>>Try having your hands cuffed behind your back and have a scrawny guy kneel on your upper body in order to judge the difficulty in breathing in that manner.<<

Some Canadian talk show host did this and laid there for 9 minutes with a person kneeling on his neck and he didn't die from it. It's actually quite rare when someone dies from being in that position, which is why it's an approved tactic by our government.

The thing I didn't like seeing was this picture here...

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200529134923-new-george-floyd-arrest-video-screengrab-super-tease.jpg

This is the worst one in the Floyd incident. In this pic it looks like they're putting all of their weight on him. When Chauvin just simply put his knee on the back of the shoulder/neck area in an attempt to restrain a man that was going nuts (yes, Floyd was going nuts) really wasn't all that bad.

>>Chauvin deserves to be in prison out of sheer stupidity.<<


That's highly debatable, I mean, cops do this all the time to suspects and it was an approved tactic according to Minneapolis police procedure when making arrests and whatnot...

I think the fact that he kept him there for over 9 minutes is the biggest issue and not getting up when Floyd had no pulse was also a big problem but overall, the response to this was pretty horrible, and perhaps worse than Floyd's death. 2 billion in damage and multiple murders. Rioting over a black man dying like this is just selective outrage in my view. There's thousands of black men that die every year at the hands of other black men and we don't hear much about it.

About the only time we hear something about this is when they get killed by a white guy.

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Really? It was an approved tactic to keep your knee on the back of a person whose pulse cannot be felt, then keep kneeling on them for another two minutes?

Does this "Some Canadian talk show host" have a name? Unless he does, then I think you're just making it up.

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I can't remember the guy's name but he isn't the only one that has taken a knee to the neck and survived it.

And yes, it is an approved tactic to put someone in the prone position with knee to shoulder/neck area, not sure about the pulse stopping part though. lol...

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No one will tell my why it is an approved method to keep the knee on the neck for an additional two minutes after a pulse cannot be found. Can you prove that this is an approved method?

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It's common knowledge. But Google is your friend.

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I can't remember the guy's name but he isn't the only one that has taken a knee to the neck and survived it.

And yes, it is an approved tactic to put someone in the prone position with knee to shoulder/neck area, not sure about the pulse stopping part though. lol...

It is common knowledge that when a person says "they know things", but is unable to reveal any sort of source, then they know little or nothing.

I think you're lying and also think the rest of us are stupid enough to believe your lies.

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Dude, I can't remember the guy's name, it was like 3 years ago. I can tell you upfront, many people have been placed in this position. All you gotta do is a google image search and you'll see dozens of suspects that have been placed in prone position.

But if you're just too lazy to use google, then here you go, knucklehead...

https://apnews.com/article/was-officer-knee-on-george-floyd-neck-authorized-639cab5a670173ea9cc311db4386abf2#What%20Do%20Attorneys%20Say?

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He is gaslighting and clowning as usual.

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All Chauvin had to do was get off of Floyd who was handcuffed and subdued then call for medical assistance. Then Floyd might be alive but Chauvin would not be in prison. Instead Chauvin murdered Floyd in the street so that's why he is going to be in prison for the most of the rest of his life. You are obviously too stupid to see what really happened.

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I asked you to prove that it is an "approved method to keep the knee on the neck for an additional two minutes after a pulse cannot be found". You said you had proof. But it is obvious you do not.

Your link says nothing about kneeling on a person after they have no pulse.

Almost every person on MovieChat who defends Chauvin ignores the fact that he kept kneeling on Floyd for two minutes after his pulse could not be felt. No police department says to do this.

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"Common knowledge"? Nope, no such thing. It's quite possible and frequently happens that someone remembers something without being able to remember the exact place or the name. That doesn't render what is remembered invalid. Your "common knowledge" statement is a logical fallacy.

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If they "know things" then they should be able to provide something to support their claims. But it has been my experience that they are just making up crap they have no rational reason to believe is true.

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Multiple witnesses in the trial said it is not approved for any prolonged period of time. Past the point of death I think should be long enough, don't you?

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I think that's the gray area of this tactic. How long can they apply this hold for? Apparently, they're supposed to allow the suspect to turn over on their side to prevent asphyxia but "when" they're supposed to do this is also gray area.

George Floyd was going completely nuts when he was in the police car. He had claustrophobia and was high on drugs which most likely made his claustrophobia worse. He was thrashing around in the car and telling the officers that he couldn't breathe.

Fearing that he was overdosing on drugs, the officers placed him in prone position, which is apparently another procedure their supposed to do in situations like this. So, they called for paramedics, placed him in prone position and unfortunately he died.

I honestly don't think he was "trying" to kill Floyd. Although keeping him in that position after getting no pulse is a bit out there.

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I don't think he was "trying" to kill him either, but he was definitely trying to punish him. Police often have the mentality that they are judge and jury. This is amplified by things like the danger around their job, various bs they witness in the judicial system, and a power complex as seen in the Stanford Prison Experiment.

There is a bit of a grey area as you say because a perpetrator could be uncontrollable for a wide range of times. This article you shared does explain that officers are aware of the dangers of this position and understand they need to use caution when doing so. https://apnews.com/article/was-officer-knee-on-george-floyd-neck-authorized-639cab5a670173ea9cc311db4386abf2#What%20Do%20Attorneys%20Say?

Chauvin clearly did not use caution. How do we know this? Watch the video. Floyd is basically motionless at a certain point, crying, and about to die. The defense tried to make the argument that the crowd acted as a potential threat, but this defense failed.

For better or for worse we now have so much technology that the entirety of this event was recorded from multiple angles. It made a pretty easy case for the prosecution.

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I hear ya, Chip.

Chauvin screwed up and that's why he's in prison today and yes the prosecution made a pretty strong case that the knee is what killed him. But I do think there was plenty of 'doubt' in this case.

Like the medical examiner basically saying he died of an overdose then slightly changing his testimony later on in the trial. It was almost like he was personally reprimanded for saying something that contradicted the prosecution.

Then they had to come up with the idea that Floyd had a high tolerance for drugs. I mean, it's extremely rare when someone dies in prone position, the contributing factors surely played a role in this.

I just can't for the life of me think that Chauvin deserves 20 years for this when black men are getting intentionally gunned down everyday by other black men and they don't even get 10 years for doing it.

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"Apparently, they're supposed to allow the suspect to turn over on their side to prevent asphyxia but "when" they're supposed to do this is also gray area."


ill give you a hint. its before 9 mins and especially before 7 minutes when they then died then another 2 minutes. that non grey enough for you?

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Nope...

I've seen officers hold people down in this position for a long time. There is no set time they can keep someone in the prone position. They just have to use their own judgement and since Floyd said he was not on drugs and was actually breathing, Chauvin didn't think he had to let him roll over.

Honestly, I'm not a fan of this tactic, all it takes is one guy to die from it and you've got a riot on your hands. Not a fan of choke holds either but I do think these are banned tactics in just about every police department in the country right now.

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there actaully is when theres that much weight on him. tthe expert guessed half his weight or 90lbs was on his neck. meaning the other half or 90lbs was on his upper back. the second officer had half his weight on Floyds lower back, another 90%lbs

try putting almost 300lbs on your back, on the ground.tell me how that breathing goes for you?

use their own judgement and since Floyd said he was not on drugs and was actually breathing, Chauvin didn't think he had to let him roll over.



How the fuck would he know or you talk abut his judgement?! he laid on a deadmans neck for almost 3 minutes after he died

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>>>try putting almost 300lbs on your back, on the ground.tell me how that breathing goes for you?<<<

You've made a good point, in fact, there is no way you could live for more than 2 minutes if someone was cutting your air off while in prone position with all that weight. Therefore, Chauvin was not cutting his air off and didn't keep his weight on him for very long time.

The fact that he kept his knee on his shoulder/neck area beyond getting a pulse is some questionable behavior, I do agree. However, I have one idea on why he did this...

I honestly don't think they noticed he was unresponsive, until it was too late. If you watch this moment again, they're distracted by the crowd and not watching Floyd. Plus, there is a strong chance that Chauvin felt like he did nothing wrong, which to some degree, could actually be true, therefore, he thought he would be absolved of all wrong doing in this particular case. So, even if the people in the crowd are saying he's dead etc..., he thought there was a threat in the crowd and this was a distraction.

Other than this, I got nothing on why he kept kneeling on him. Still, two things that went majorly wrong in this incident, the EMTs got the wrong address in the initial call and this caused them to get there late, they could have possibly saved Floyd's life had they gotten there sooner, and second, not taking Floyd's word serious.

But the problem with the second thing is this... Police officers hear people say this all the time (I cannot breathe), they had no reason to think Floyd was serious about it. And Chauvin has put hundreds of people in this position throughout his 20 year career as a cop and no one has ever died from it.

It's unfortunate that Floyd died like that but I don't think it was entirely Chauvin's fault either.

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you dont have to "cut off his air" totally like some sort of choke hold.what it does is massively put pressure on your lungs and make extremely hard to breathe and slowely crushes the air out of you. especially when your hands are cuffed behind your back.

theres also no dispute chauvin didnt keep his weight on him the entire time. the argument by CHauvin was "ya but it didnt kill him it was other stuff." so not even Chauvin is disputing this claim you just made

I honestly don't think they noticed he was unresponsive, until it was too late. If you watch this moment again, they're distracted by the crowd and not watching Floyd. Plus, there is a strong chance that Chauvin felt like he did nothing wrong, which to some degree, could actually be true, therefore, he thought he would be absolved of all wrong doing in this particular case. So, even if the people in the crowd are saying he's dead etc..., he thought there was a threat in the crowd and this was a distraction.


not really an argument though? there was no reason to keep kneeling on a cuffed man for 9 minutes distraction or not. also just because you think you will get away with a crime doesnt mean anything does it?

Other than this, I got nothing on why he kept kneeling on him. Still, two things that went majorly wrong in this incident, the EMTs got the wrong address in the initial call and this caused them to get there late, they could have possibly saved Floyd's life had they gotten there sooner, and second, not taking Floyd's word serious.


that may be 100% true but doesnt change a thing. if i light a building on fire then call 911 and firetrucks and the firetrucks are late I am still completely responsible.

whose fault is it? we have no evidence at all Floyd would have died that day even if he hadn't encountered chauvin. and all the evidence from the corner and other experts that thats what led to his death.

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>>> put pressure on your lungs and make extremely hard to breathe and slowely crushes the air out of you<<<

If this was the result of being in the prone position, then we would see people dying from it all the time. But we don't.

Look at these images here -

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=knee%20to%20the%20neck%20police%20officers&qs=n&form=QBIR&sp=-1&lq=0&pq=knee%20to%20the%20neck%20police%20officer&sc=10-31&cvid=FEFCF390807A4D6482492116DE1EEE97&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&first=1

It's an endless number of incidents where cops have put people in this position, we rarely if ever, hear about someone dying from it. You also have to consider that it's not likely they had enough pressure on his back to kill him, but in Floyd's physical condition, it increased those odds that this position could kill him. He had all kinds of medical problems and was on drugs to boot. Floyd made a mistake when he told the officers that he was not on drugs. And the fact that he went crazy in the squad car was another mistake on Floyd's part.

>>>there was no reason to keep kneeling on a cuffed man for 9 minutes<<<

I do tend to agree with this, Chauvin screwed up, it certainly looked like a case of reckless abandonment and complete disregard for Floyd's safety. But to paint this picture as "racist white cop planned on killing Floyd the whole time because he's black" is just doing a disservice to the community at large.

Which makes me hate cases like this because the media is nothing but a race bating entity now days. They don't care about facts and due process when they see something like this, it's immediately considered a race issue and nothing more.

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If this was the result of being in the prone position, then we would see people dying from it all the time. But we don't.

no no we wouldnt. as most of the time cops dont put their entire weight like this, let alone for nine minutes.

https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/3ed4ab12e7213ad2248b2788473efbed?src

zero weight on the feet, buddy isnt even using his hands to lean on the car. WHy? because he no issues with Floyd moving beneath him making it unstable and him lose his balance in this pretty unbalanced position. hes just carefree putting his entire weight on his back and back.

Look at these images here -


these images prove my point look at them closely.Cops temporarily do it, often to gain control and cuff the person. not sit on them for 9 minutes straight. More importantly you didnt notice the difference??? in most of these the cops have their weight on their other leg as well or balancing on their back feet, how they are supposed to do it. as i said above Chauvin wasnt in a balanced stable position because its clear he didnt need to be, Floyd was fully under control. you can see the difference in these photos you gave me of cops doing it properly

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/405C/production/_114667461_cop3.jpg

other foot is off the subject giving them better balance and more control. but again its a combination of both factors that seperates chauvin from other police using it

1. the length it went on
2.the fact it was two officers with 300lbs on his neck and chest restricting breathing


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He had all kinds of medical problems and was on drugs to boot. Floyd made a mistake when he told the officers that he was not on drugs. And the fact that he went crazy in the squad car was another mistake on Floyd's part.


if you have asthma, and i smother you, did i kill you or the asthma? lets say the smothering may not have killed a normal healthy person (but also may have). its 100% clear Floyd would have lived if not for what CHauvin did.


racist white cop planned on killing Floyd the whole time because he's black" is just doing a disservice to the community at large.Which makes me hate cases like this because the media is nothing but a race bating entity now days. They don't care about facts and due process when they see something like this, it's immediately considered a race issue and nothing more.



i agree. i think he was just an overall POS who didnt care.


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>>>not sit on them for 9 minutes straight.<<<

I agree, 9 minutes is a little excessive, but again, this is somewhat of a gray area. I don't think there is any set time on which they can keep suspects in this position. At least, I haven't seen it in the police manuals.

Again, what they're supposed to do is use some judgement on whether or not they should move the suspect or keep them in that position etc..etc..

Chauvin screwed up... and unfortunately, he accidentally contributed to Floyd's death. We see this is a lot of traffic accidents too.. not sure the guy deserves 20 years but it was a pretty dumb thing to do.

>>>if you have asthma, and i smother you, did i kill you or the asthma? <<<

If I had medical problems, the last thing in the world I'm going to do is battle with police and resist arrest.

>>> i think he was just an overall POS who didnt care.<<<

He might be a real creep, he certainly has a questionable past while working for the MPD, but as a society, we have to look at the evidence not jump to conclusions. Chauvin might be an okay person, I mean, Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach during a home invasion, and the left painted angel wings on him, surely that Derek Chauvin guy wouldn't do anything like this, right?

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cops also may have to punch someone or choke someone given the situation. this doesnt mean its okay to do so for 9 minutes. its not in manuals because its meant to gain control of the perp then stop. again if the manual says "you may have to punch them" it doesnt need to say "but do not continue punching them for multiple minutes once you gained control". because that would be stupid and it shouldnt have to

theres nothing accidental about it. he did something that can kill someone for 9 minutes straight lol. again its like me "accidentally smothering you" by holding a pillow on your face for 9 minutes.

If I had medical problems, the last thing in the world I'm going to do is battle with police and resist arrest.


where was the battle and resisting during the 9 minutes he was slowly suffocated and killed? i clearly demonstrated Floyd could not have put up any scuffle in that position, as Chauvin was literally in one of the most unstable positions in term of balance.

He might be a real creep, he certinaly has a questionble past with the work he's done while woking for the MPD, but as a society, we have to look at the evidence not jump to conclusions. Chauvin might be an okay person, I mean, Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach during a home invasion, and the left painted angel wings on him, surely that Derek Chauvin guy wouldn't do anything like this, right?


the evidence according to the picture is he non chilantly killed a man. he didnt have a care in the world when he did it. he was so casual about it ha had his hands in his pockets just hanging out.

flyod can be a POS and so can Chauvin. But one of them killed somone and one didnt.

https://www.fox9.com/news/john-pope-zoya-code-derek-chauvin-police-brutality-lawsuits-minneapolis

looks like this was his favourite move

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I like chatting with ya, shadow, you're an allright guy. But it looks like this convo could go on forever... at any rate... I'm going to try to keep this short and perhaps my last post in here.

>>>theres nothing accidental about it.<<<

So, you think he killed Floyd on purpose? The prosecution didn't think so.

>>>where was the battle and resisting during the 9 minutes<<<

If you watch the entire arrest video, he put up a pretty good fight and used every excuse in the book not to go to jail.

>>>looks like this was his favorite move<<<

His behavior on the force was quite suspicious no doubt about it, buuut.... ahhh nevermind...

This is going on and on... lol...


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It is not an approved method except in deadly force incidents.

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I don't think it is ever appropriate to use deadly force on a person who is handcuffed and lying face down on the ground without a pulse.

The appropriate actions at that time would be to take your knee off of the person and allow others to resuscitate them.

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Minneapolis Police Department has cancelled this as an approved tactic. But at the time of Floyd's arrest, it was approved in situations like when suspects are going nuts in the back of squad cars, which is what Floyd was doing.

This article goes into more detail...

https://apnews.com/article/was-officer-knee-on-george-floyd-neck-authorized-639cab5a670173ea9cc311db4386abf2#What%20Do%20Attorneys%20Say?

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Chauvin went far beyond simply kneeling on Floyd, he continued to do so for two minutes after they could not find his pulse. No police department allows this.

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You are wrong about knees to the neck and it being an approved tactic. The ONLY times it is approved would be in times of deadly force situations. I don't know where you are pulling this information from, but in the US, police are trained to avoid the neck, head and spine UNLESS it meets what is called the "use of force continuum." And this has been the training for decades. Though, there is a major difference between a shoulder blade and neck, but necks are avoided. So, putting a knee on a neck in this matter is not an approved tactic at all (the poster might be making suck comments based on antiquated training, but more advanced trainers do NOT teach this at all.).

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Blackmass, o you have any clue to how few lbs of pressure are needed to shut off a person's blood or air supply? Clearly not.

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Then why did Chauvin stay on Floyd's back for two more minutes after they could not find a pulse? Is there any reason other than to ensure Chauvin killed Floyd prior to putting him in a ambulance?

Even the most ignorant of police officers understands that a person is compliant when they lack a pulse. Chauvin was not that stupid. I think he wanted to kill Floyd, so he stayed on top of him after he knew his heart stopped.

The people that support Chauvin seem to be upset that a police officer can't just murder a person while being recorded. Those snuff videos just don't make themselves, right?

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Web Sites for Fact Checking = Misinformation and Disinformation

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Yup.

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😂

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strntz posted:

**Medical examiners and independent experts testified in the Chauvin trial that while Floyd suffered from heart disease and hypertension, and toxicology tests showed recent use of the two drugs, none of these was the cause of Floyd’s death on May 25, 2020. Medical examiners ruled the death a homicide because law enforcement officers compressed Floyd against the road in a way that starved his body of oxygen, known as asphyxia, leading to cardiopulmonary arrest."**


@ Had Floyd been healthy he would not have died when Chauvin pinned him forcefully down with his knee. He might have found it hard to breathe but he would not have died.

The weak heart , the ipertension and recent use of drugs in his system , these three factors contributed to his death when Chauvin pinned him down ..

That said:
The dude was face down ,handcuffed , had two other policemen keeping his lower part of his body down , Chauvin was in no danger… he should have eased his knee lock when he heard Floyd pleading and saying he couldn’t breathe.

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Either George Floyd was so deeply under the influence of fentanyl that he died of an OD or he was so wildly violent that Chauvin needed to use extreme measures to subdue him. It cannot be both. In in the first case, medical intervention was required, not kneeling on Floyd's neck, which exacerbated the medical emergency. In the second case, excessive force was used. In either case, Chauvin murdered George Floyd.

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Twitter as a source...you're really aiming high.

What's next, the National Enquirer?

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Thanks for making clear you can't counter anything that the journalist of 30 years had to say.

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You're delusional.

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I didn't need any further confirmation of your inability to counter the clip, but thanks anyway.

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Fox News. Tucker Carlson.

They're class acts. Like you.

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The latest autopsy report and court findings confirmed that he died from an OD, not Chauvin.

Tucker simply elaborated on the findings.

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Autopsy:

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

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The man was a walking pharmacy; not to mention that he had a predisposition to heart disease, several blocked arteries, high blood pressure, and vascular issues.

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All Chauvin had to do was get off of Floyd who was handcuffed and subdued then call for medical assistance. Then Floyd might be alive but Chauvin would not be in prison. Instead Chauvin murdered Floyd so that's why he is going to be in prison for the most of the rest of his life. Why are you making excuses for Chauvin?

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Tucker is a well-known liar. He is so notoriously dishonest that even Fox News had to fire him.

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Carlson is not "a well-known liar". He's a well-known debunker of leftist bullshit, which is why leftist heads explode whenever he says something.

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So that's why Carlson was fired from Fox News? You really should pick your heroes more carefully.

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You can't be that clueless, can you? Fox News' defense at trial was that Carlson is a liar.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/

Mr. Carlson’s statements “cannot reasonably be interpreted as facts”


This is old news. Why is your selective memory so short?

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lol, you cited old news. Why do you have selective short term memory?

They ousted him because he spoke the truth and they wanted to silence him since he could not be compromised.

Btw, Tucker simply elaborated on the court documents and autopsy report of GF.

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They ousted him because he was a liability that his popularity could not overcome.

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Lying leftist calling Tucker a liar lol.

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Fox News called Carlson a liar at trial. It was the cornerstone of their defense. This does not hurt Carlson at all because he lies as a matter of course, and his viewers know and accept it as long as he is only attacking the people they do not like.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/

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He's been in jail for a while now, with lots of time to contemplate. I wonder if he feels remorse for his actions?

And yes, George Floyd wasn't a good person, but he didn't deserve to be murdered.

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He was murdered by an OD of drugs💊💊💊💊💊💊.

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All Chauvin had to do was get off of Floyd who was handcuffed and subdued then call for medical assistance. Then Floyd might be alive but Chauvin would not be in prison. Instead Chauvin murdered Floyd so that's why he is going to be in prison for the most of the rest of his life. Why are you making excuses for Chauvin?

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Too bad the defense did not use this at trial. They went with something else.

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They went with the lie……your specialty.

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If the defense went with the lie, then why was this not discovered during the appeal? Why didn't you tell them? Did you want Chauvin to go to prison?

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If I had to guess, I think Chauvin probably aligned himself with people like him in prison to justify what he did, so no, he probably doesn't haven't any remorse

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He probably does have remorse for the incident because it landed him in the pokey. Remorse for killing Floyd the person? No.

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