OK, let me play devils advocate. Even if it could be proven that kneeling on his neck is not what caused Floyds death, it was still unacceptable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not part of the "defund" crowd, and while I support a cops right to use as much force as necessary to get the cuffs on to a resisting suspect, once those cuffs are on, the suspect is no longer a threat and has rights. Regardless of what crimes Floyd had committed up until that point, kneeling on the neck of a handcuffed man is needless sadism and unacceptable for anyone with a badge. I'm no lawyer but to the best of my knowledge torturing a restrained suspect is against the law.
Arresting Floyd was Chauvin's job, not punishing him. In any civilized society punishment is always to be left to a judge, not whoever feels in the mood to dish out a little pain.
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tvfan (12745)
a year ago
Chauvin used that technique on other suspects and they didn’t die from it.
Other LEOs have also used the same technique; besides, Floyd insisted to be placed on the ground.
Floyd was well over the fatality threshold of Fentanyl aside from a cocktail-mix of other drugs and several preexisting health conditions.
From line one of Floyd's Toxicology report:
1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL
“Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.”
According to the deposition of a former Hennepin County prosecutor, the county’s medical examiner told her in a phone call that there "were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation."
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MrAnonymous (153)
a year ago
I did not argue that it did or didn't. My argument was that regardless of what caused his death, kneeling on the neck of a handcuffed man is unacceptable.
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tvfan (12745)
a year ago
kneeling on the neck of a handcuffed man is unacceptable.
Pointing a gun at the belly of a pregnant woman is unacceptable.
Floyd was belligerent, defiant, and resisting. He certainly didn’t earn a nice pat on the head from Chauvin.
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MrAnonymous (153)
a year ago
I never said that what Floyd did was acceptable. I never denied that he was resisting. I never implied he deserved a nice pat on the head. Chauvin had every right to be as rough as possible with him when arresting him, but once the cuffs were on the arrest was over. What happened after the cuffs went on was Chauvin getting his own personal digs in.
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tvfan (12745)
a year ago
Chauvin getting his own personal digs in.
There is nothing to indicate that it was personal. The MSM pushed that narrative just like the racist card.
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