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Questioning catalizing events is now a crime


When some important event like a school shooting happens, nobody will dare publicly question the event because some idiots might call the families of the victims and harass them leading to that person having to pay 50 million dollars. This is not good for society. The ability to question events such as this necessary for social health. This verdict is a dangerous precedent. The victim's families should have sued the actual people harassing them, not the guy who questioned the event online. But they knew that the losers who actually harassed them didn't have any money, so they sued Jones who has money. Greed got the better of them. If you ask me shame on the families, their lawyers and the judge who handed this verdict.

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So according to your "reasoning" Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels are completely innocent men, because they never put a finger on one single jew personally?
(Sorry for bringing up Hitler)

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That wasn't my argument. AJ never told anyone to harass anyone. He simply questioned Sandy Hook publicly. That shouldn't be a crime.

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This obscuring of verifiable phenomena is nauseating.

I hope you support our efforts to shout down idiots who tell us the sun is shining when we all can see it's raining.

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What verifiable phenomena?? I never said Jones was right about Sandy Hook. The point is he has the right to believe any conspiracy theory he wishes. If he's wrong, debunk him. One should not be sued for 50 million for believing in something.

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The problem isn’t that he is wrong. The problem is that he caused damage.

Besides, they don’t need to debunk him. You don’t need to prove a negative. Jones had to prove his theories. He never did.

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No he didn't cause damage. Any fishy event is bound to spark conspiracy theories. That is inevitable. The "victims" should have sued the people that harassed them, not people that believe Sandy Hook is fishy.

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He did cause damage. That’s why he lost the lawsuit.

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Wrong. He "lost" by default because his lawyers failed to provide some documentation. His guilt was never proven. He lost on a technicality.

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His guilt was proven. If you lose by default your guilt is proven since all the allegations are assumed as true.

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Assumed to true.

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It's wonderful he is being charged. He is a garbage human being.

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No more than the average traitorous leftist like yourself. Leftist are traitors to Western civilization. They should be expelled to Africa.

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Regardless I'm glad he is being charged. Also I am not a leftist I just do not support evil and corruption no matter who does it. You do.

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Maybe I'm confusing you with some else "moviefanatic". Plenty of people have this name here.

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You support right wingers no matter what they do. You are a boot licker.

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Nope I don't. I support free speech and the idea of questioning things. So did Einstein.

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Free speech does not protect you from consequence. You can't yell fire in a theater.

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"You can't yell fire in a theater."

So wasn't Alex Jones.

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That is what he did. I am glad this clown is getting sued. I hope every dime he makes goes to the victims.

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He probably won't pay a dime: https://youtu.be/1EsWsaqs99I

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But he told his millions of stupid followers this belief, and they took it upon themselves to harass the victims and their families because they believed him. He as good as harassed them himself, with an obedient, baying mob!

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Nope, telling someone "event X is fake" is not the same as telling them "go harass someone".

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BUT THEY HARASSED THEM ANYWAY!!

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And they should have sued the harassers.

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They will, AND Jones, too.

Why do you care so much about Alex Jones, the man's a complete ASSHOLE!

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Because of the implications of this verdict, free speech and questioning authority.

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Every post you make is nauseating.

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So Jones did not claim that the families were part of a conspiracy and staged the attack for political motives?

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Jones didn’t question the Sandy Hook shooting. He outright declared it to be a hoax and called the parents crisis actors.

If you are going to make a claim like that, you better have evidence and good sources.

This was a great verdict for a man that deserves all of the bad things that are happening to him.

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If I believe 9/11 to be a hoax, I have a right to talk about it publicly. If someone then harasses George W. for it, sue him not me. Jones didn't harass anyone nor did he tell anyone to harass anyone.

If he doesn't have evidence for his conspiracy theory, he will be seen as a food and nobody will believe him. No need to sue anyone.

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The law says otherwise. The main issue was that he targeted the parents and influenced people to harrass them. So, he caused damage.

People in this country have a distorted vision of free speech and that needs to end. It’s time for people like Jones to suffer consequences.

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He didn't "target" anyone. He simply said what he believed to be true. This right should be protected by all means necessary.

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"Law"? Who needs Laws??

WE HAVE SOCIAL JUSTICE NOW, BABY!!!!

(I'm being extremely sarcastic, of course) ((But it is what people think these days of the moron))

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Jones did much more than that. Sure you can call 9/11 a hoax, but if you name various people who were a part of the alleged hoax, and cannot proved they were part of a conspiracy, then you could be sued.

Because Jones did not have any evidence, his claims were libel and slander. A person has the right to sue those like Jones who damage their reputation in this manner.

You are damaging your own reputation on this forum, but since you're the one doing the damage, you have no one to sue and in the end we just think you're a fool

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I'm not sure you understand what the lawsuit was about. It was a defamation case. The harassment from Jones' followers is part of it, but the harassment came directly because of the defamation from Jones. This might help you understand. It's from December, and explains why the lawsuits were going to trial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSm7sRx-0hA

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Isn't it only defamation if you know it to be false?

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It’s also a reckless disregard for the truth.

Jones didn’t care if what he said was true or not.

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The video, which you didn't watch, discusses that.

In the past, under oath, Jones said that his statements were false, that he made them up under a form of psychosis.

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So it's not defamation if you believe it to be true.

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It's defamation if the information spread is false, regardless if the person spreading it believes it or not.

For example, C calls B a pedo and spreads that lie over the internet. C truly believes it despite evidence to the contrary; C has no evidence to support the claim. B can sue C.

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And who determines what is true and what is false? If someone were to sue 9/11 conspiracy theorists, they would eventually find out they're right.

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You truly lack any sort of empathy.

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Oh shut up, you MORON!

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Go back fucking your trannys, loser.

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That guy is a clown, but some people believe he's legit when he talks about interdimensional portals and rich people drinking baby's blood and weird shit like that.

He accused by name a lot of people of being crisis actors, without solid evidence only suppositions, you imagine lost a family member and some asshole calling you a liar (only for ratings) and because of that some virgins morons start to harassing you, just because you didn't cry convincingly in front of the cameras?

Shady shit happen the government lie to people all that is true, but this moron make everybody who question the power look like a lunatic because regular people who only trust the traditional media see him like the embodiment of alternative journalism because he's the one who talks louder and get more attention.

If there is a conspiracy, it must be this fat turd working for the elite to ridiculize alternative media

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Jones never called anyone to be harassed. He simply said what he believe dot be true about Sandy Hook. That should not be a crime. If he's wrong debunk him. If someone harasses you, persecute the people that harassed you.

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If I have millions of followers (most of them nutjobs) and show a video of you and I accuse you of being a crisis actor, of working for the government to eliminate civil rights, that is no a call to harass you?

Besides, you shouldn't publicly accuse anyone of anything without evidence and then pretend nothing can happen because you are only saying what you think and that make you untouchable.

No freedom is absolute, that include the freedom of speech

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He never called any individual a crisis actor. The names of these individuals wasn't public.

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Jones accused the families of the murder victims of lying about their children's deaths. Jones went far beyond questioning the shooting, he made libelous claims against the victims by claiming they were part of a staged event and no one was killed.

In this country, people are protected from libel and slander. Do you think this is wrong?

Actually there have been several people who were arrested and sued for making actual threats against the families of the victims.

Why are you so completely misinformed about this subject? Actually you most likely know much about the event and Jones' attempts to defame the families to make money on his program. You are part of the problem in this country.

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Read again my post. I was making a point that it is crucial for social health that people are able to question important events.

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no its not " crucial for social health"
free speech and democracy are important but
This kind of cult leader peddaling " interdimensional portals and rich people drinking baby's blood and weird shit like that."
to a huge audience is just making society collectively dumber by the minute

not to mention causing great harm and distress to lots of people

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Questioning important events is crucial of public health. Would you like to live in a society where asking questions about 9/11 or war is a crime? That what we have in Russia.

He wasn't accused of promoting weird stuff.

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Then why were you pretending to not know what Jones was charged with in the lawsuit? Your willful ignorance is not an asset in this conversation.

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I know what he was charged with. It's public knowledge.

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You can't fool me. I still think you don't understand what he was sued for.

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What a fucking retard! Defamation is civil, not criminal.
He's not questioning the event, he's denying reality. Only people with psychotic disorders do that.
Go see your shrink if you sympathize with Jones.

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Go fuck a hedgehog moron. I'm not even a fan of Jones

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why are you defending this ass clown ?
just because he's "right wing" like you ?
you should oust the toxic extremist ones not back them up in every obscene atrocity they want to start!

yes i know , you're talking about the bigger picture , free speach bla blah .
Well that angle is bullshit too .
This guys caused untold hurt to those families because he is spouting his batshit crazy conspiracy theory - probably not becasue he believes it , but becasue it gets a load of other idiots excited and generates him fame and therfore money.

tldr: he's causing pain to shooting victims for money.

Becasuer he's noth the one directly "hassling then" means fuck all (see hitler example ackbar cited)

He is like the guy that yells "Fire" in a theatre and causes deaths in a stampede .

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I am defending him because this verdict is a dangerous precedent. Read my post again the part about questioning important events.

I don't give a rats ass about the "damage to the families". They have exposed themselves as scumbags by suing someone for questioning.

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Yeah you not caring about the victims is obvious. Alex Jones is guilty and I'm glad that happened to him. The verdict is decided. Suck on it.

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He was never found guilt. He lost on a technicality. I have no respect for people who stifle free speech.

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Whether you win by an inch or a mile a win is still a win. He lost suck on it.

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They didn't sue for money you fucking retard. They sued because he and his followers were harassing them.

The only one who's greedy is Alex.

Shame on Alex and shame on you retard.

I swear almost everyone on this site is fucking crazy, retarded or both.

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Go fuck a hedgehog moron. I know damn well what they sued for. People like you who suppress freedom of speech should be expelled to China. You and these so called "victim's families" are human excrement.

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My god you are a soulless retard who lacks empathy.

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Nope, I'm just someone who cares about society.

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