3 packs a day - Dick York Discussion

[–] TylerAArse (2870) 5 years ago

Yul Brenner was up to 5 packs a day. Same outcome for him, too.

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[–] [email protected] (1732) 5 years ago

And Lucy, too. Ruined her speaking voice first, then she suffered a minor stroke, a minor heart attack, and then
died after open heart surgery. All for smoking.

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Heck, she might still be alive now, with a lot more money !

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[–] strntz (12223) 4 years ago

And Yul was royally pissed about his lung cancer. I mean, anyone would be upset at contracting a deadly disease that was preventable, but he was over the top pissed. I remember reading an interview with him back in the 70s. He had everything to live for and died at a young age. He even did public service commercials against smoking.

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[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Same for William Talman AKA District Attorney Hamilton Burger from Perry Mason.

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[–] mikethemartian (6705) 7 months ago

William Talman filmed an anti-smoking commercial.

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[–] TylerAArse (2870) 4 years ago

I recall seeing a few of those PSCs he did against smoking. At 5 packs a day, how could you possible find time to do anything else. Poor dude....

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[–] Galactus03 (4373) 5 years ago

Yup. Plus his back issues didn't help him any. Some people live for food, drink and smokes....just the way it is. They don't care if it shortens their lives...

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

It's tough. Smoking is literally addictive, drinking can seem like a relaxing palliative (it is for me), and some people find comfort in eating. And people who should be healthy succumb to disease while lifetime smokers and drinkers live to a great old age ... sometimes. And we in the US seem to have normalized being over weight. So we aren't all model citizens for the universe.
I know you weren't criticizing, but sometimes I catch myself being judgemental, so I'm just "vocalizing" how everyone's story is unique.

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[–] Galactus03 (4373) 5 years ago

Correct I wasn't criticizing. Just speaking a truth of the human condition.

What you say is true. But, what is also true is that most people who die early, do so from lack of taking care of themselves. Yes healthy people can die early and unhealthy can live longer but it's not the norm.

As you say many Americans especially the Adults are overweight or obese. I believe it's like close to 70%. I have never been obese. Never smoked and never really drank all that much. I did get a little overweight.(maybe 5 pounds over my BMI) Which I carried for a lot of years. I have now lost it all and more and have a very low body fat, work out and do not eat any sugar or any processed foods. Also cut out beef and pork about 7 years ago.
Heart issues run in both sides of my family and i want to avoid what my father went through at the age of 45. He had a triple bypass. I'm a few years beyond that age and I'm happy to say I really have no health issues.(except for a bad back that I have strengthened up over the last year.)

Anyone can eat healthy and exercise, it's just a matter of getting started and really wanting it. Healthy foods can also be a comfort if one knows what to look for. It's also no more expensive to eat healthier like so many like to use as an excuse. It's actually cheaper in most cases.

I do have one vice still though....I do enjoy my coffee...😀

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Is coffee a vice? A little stimulation to get the body going in the morning?
TMI, my bowels always start to work in the AM after some coffee, and it's a relief.
I don't drink caffeine all day but in the AM it feels like a warm palliative so I don't see it as a bad thing.

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[–] Galactus03 (4373) 5 years ago

Not sure. Some people tell me it is..😂..I drink it a couple times a day. Water is the only other thing I drink ..

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[–] [email protected] (5854) 2 years ago

"Smoking is literally addictive" Truer words were never spoken. My late mom smoked for 65 years. It caught up to her in her last years and she was hospitalized for pneumonia a number of times. On the way home from the hospital, I'd always have to stop so she could "get a pack of smokes". Drove me crazy!

Even with COPD and tethered to an oxygen tank, she wouldn't quit.

And as you wrote, some folks succumb to disease while living healthy. So much is genetic. My mom came from a family of "long livers" who mostly succumbed to old age and natural causes. She may have been around for a few more years if it wasn't for those @#@# cigarettes. And you'd think after 65 years, she would've gotten lung cancer. No, she just couldn't breathe anymore. She was always passing out from lack of oxygen because she'd take off her O2 machine to smoke.

Maybe if Dick York hadn't smoked (three packs a day), he would've lived longer. It's doubtful he would've suffered from emphysema. Every time I watch an episode of Bewitched and see Darrin light up, I want to cry.

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[–] snepts (11123) 2 years ago

Indeed. I frequent a music forum that has a lot of pix of older Rock Stars. So often they are brandishing a smoke, and it makes ME want to cry.
I don't want to airbrush the past, but I often wish someone would airbrush all these cigs out of the photos.
Supposedly it looks so Cool, and I'm sure that was the lifestyle (I believe Joni Mitchell is an unrepentant smoker, and I love Joni), but damn -- I get so sick of seeing all these people with smokes stuck in their twigs. Yuck.

And further, I don't see how smoking has any upside to it. Sure, you may be able to relax after having a smoke, but you wouldn't if you weren't addicted.
To be candid - I don't have a particularly healthy diet, and I drink too much. Like right now!
But I don't see ANY reason to take up smoking cigarettes. Choice, sure I guess, but geez.
I could have sex with drug-infested hookers and throw myself into speeding traffic -- but those are crappy choices, "in my book." (Whatever that means.)

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[–] strntz (12223) 7 months ago

Regarding his back issues - wonder if his back injuries were overblown to cover for some other issue, like alcoholism or drugs which the back problems might have led him in to.

He missed a couple weeks of Bewitched shooting because of alleged back issues, but if you watch the episodes, there's not one where he looks stiff, or moves oddly, or looks uncomfortable, and often does some athletic things like falling into a couch or running, and even the episodes immediately before and after the hiatus.

I suspect he had an alcohol or drug problem which cost him his job at Bewitched, not his back issues.

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[–] mikethemartian (6705) 7 months ago

Supposedly he damaged his back while filming a scene where he was manually pumping a railroad handcar.

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[–] strntz (12223) 7 months ago

Yes - there's no doubt he had a back injury. But my pure guess as to why he was fired was from watching his physical movements in the episodes that preceded and followed his absences.

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[–] xergan (1067) 7 months ago

You get sometimes quite heavy painkiller, which can lead to a drug issue. If you have a chronic pain, you can get away with pain killer, I can see this. 3 packs a day also foster this assumption that he has not much control. 3 packs are 60 cigarettes. Or on a 18 hour day, 3 cigarettes per hour.

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[–] TylerAArse (2870) 5 years ago

In every regard, smoking is definitely a killer. I know a dude who had his arm severed on his job. It was a clean cut, but they couldn't surgically reattach it because of a lifetime of smoking. Very sad.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I wonder if anybody smokes that much these days. It seems like it would be too expensive to do now.

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[–] [email protected] (5854) 7 months ago

A lot of people still smoke. I work with a number of smokers. They are always running outside for a smoke break.

I know my sister smokes a lot. But I didn't realize how MUCH until about a week ago. It was election day and she volunteers to work at a local polling place. She asked me to volunteer too. The polls were open from 7AM to 8PM. She went outside for a smoke about every twenty minutes. She must've smoked two packs. She never stops.

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