Trump will still be President again next year, unless he loses by chicanery and mules.
shareWe would have to first prove that it is related to political interferences to justify reasonable doubt. And regardless of whether he's guilty or not, Dems are going to point to this case as an excuse to gain the people's support.
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Are you privy to all the testimony that the jurors heard and saw physical evidence? If not, you cannot say Trump is not guilty. He was found GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS. He will be a convicted felon when that sentence is handed down by the judge.
sharehow can a republican have a fair trial in a State that hates Trump?
shareSo you are saying he was framed 34 TIMES?
You are a fucking moron.
The 34 counts are based on checks he routinely signed as a longtime businessman in NYC, with multiple companies under his control and often while he was on the phone with someone else. It was routine, muscle memory. How could that jury possibly only convict on certain counts when the information they were subjected to was so vague, even convoluted?
You're the moron! Yeah, he was framed from the onset.
You weren’t on the jury
shareAnd neither were you, but I followed it closely on a daily basis. That was NOT, a "jury of his peers." Everyone on the prosecution side was a Democrat. If ever I've seen a kangaroo court, that was it.
shareIf "everyone on the prosecution side was democrat", would it be feasible that everyone on the defense side was Republican? I would think so. So, no advantage to the prosecution side that everyone was democrat.
shareBut New York is Trumps hometown where he was a Democrat for 70 years!😂😂
shareYou truly are a fucking idiot. I bet your redneck ass fucked your cousin, didn't it? 🤪
shareYeah, because your mom was busy with another customer then.
shareWow. It took you 2 days to come back with that?
Try harder.
Noticed your creepy post just 2 hours ago. Btw how old are you? 12?
shareYou're a pedophile, right? Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not 12 like you wanted..
sharePete314 is a pervert Trump redneck moron who probably fucked underage relatives.
This uneducated, inbreed asshole who had to think about it for 2, days before responding to my post is who supports Trump.
Think long and hard about that, folks.
Thank you Pete for showing everyone the type of horrible people that support Hitler...I mean Trump.
You are just a disgusting kiddie fiddling POS. Short: A demrat. Eat shit and rot in hell.
shareAnd even funnier, they said yeah. lol. At this point you should stop because clearly this person is a little slow.
shareMuscle memory lol
shareYou truly are the stupidest asshole in the world.
How has your backwa
"How has your backwa" What in the fuck is that even supposed to mean? You want to label me as "the stupidest asshole in the world " when you can't even construct a coherent sentence? You're so typical of brain dead Trump haters.
shareYou are the stupidest fucking person to ever live. Are you in Kentucky, Mississippi, or Alabama? Tell the truth, redneck moron.
shareGuess again!
shareSomeone is delusional 😂
shareIt looks like those walls have finally closed in. 🤣
sharewe will find out on Nov 5. meanwhile I assume you are happy with Genocide Joe?
shareNot even close.
You TDS sufferers have been claiming the same nonsense for almost 10 years and will continue for four more:
2015 - we got him now!
2016 - we got him now!
2017 - we got him now!
2018 - we got him now!
2019 - we got him now!
2020 - we got him now!
2021 - we got him now!
2022 - we got him now!
2023 - we got him now!
2024 - we got him now!
2025 - we got him now!
2026 - we got him now!
2027 - we got him now!
2028 - we got him now!
Trump hasn’t won ANYTHING since 2016!
So you concede and admit that he won in 2016? Or are you being sarcastic?
shareI never said he didn’t win in 2016
I said he hasn’t won ANYTHING since 2016
Got it?
And he also won 2020.
share tvfan (9149) SAID a minute ago
"And he also won 2020."
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Where is the proof Trump won? Do you have proof? If you do, please show us the proof. I'm sure the Trump camp would love to see your proof. There has been zero proof of a rigged election. In fact, Fox paid through the nose for their blatant lies about the Dominion machines. Trumps lawyers claimed they lied about their claims of election fraud. What more proof do you need that the election was won fair and square by Biden?
Trump speaks out of his ass and you believe him. Sorry for you.
The Fox lawsuit was an internal payoff.
The Proof = Fox called the election.
You are such a moron. You worship a convicted felon but you don't release the proof that you claim to have that the 2020 election was rigged. That would help Trump immensely so what are you waiting for?
share tvfan (9156) SAID 29 minutes ago
"The Fox lawsuit was an internal payoff.
The Proof = Fox called the election."
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FOX was sued for lying to their viewers about the Dominion machines. They were sued by Dominion and FOX lost. FOX paid Dominion $787.5 million. What do you mean by an "internal payoff?"
How is FOX calling the election proof that the election was rigged? They just didn't count on the mail in ballots, as reported BEFORE ELECTION DAY, would skew heavily for Biden. Even Trump himself could not grasp that concept.
lol, No, "FOX calling the election" is proof that the $800 million was an "internal payoff."
shareI agree, it was a way to launder money to dominion and delegitimize criticism of the voting machines. It also gave the bots/idiots a number to repeat, they seem to fixate on repeating numbers. The case would have been easy for Fox to win, they never said the machines were rigged or faulty.
shareBingo. Exactly This. You are the only one here to make that accurate connection.
shareSource: It came to me in a dream
share"The case would have been easy for Fox to win, they never said the machines were rigged or faulty."
share"After Trump's defeat in the 2020 presidential election, Fox News host Jeanine Pirro promoted baseless allegations on her program that Dominion and its competitor Smartmatic had conspired to rig the election against Trump. Hosts Lou Dobbs and Maria Bartiromo also promoted the allegations on their programs on sister network Fox Business. In December 2020, Smartmatic sent a letter to Fox News demanding retractions and threatening legal action, specifying that retractions "must be published on multiple occasions" so as to "match the attention and audience targeted with the original defamatory publications."
shareI think you are talking about her having a guest on whom talked about the "irregularities" with dominion voting machines. I cannot find Dobbs piece but as far as I know it is completely legal to have guests on that have opinions about companies and people, there is also Zero evidence that dominion suffered any loss by Sidney powell or any other guest saying they were hackable and connecting to the internet "both true by the way". It was an easily defendable case for a corporation like Fox. Just look at the crazy shit the other networks allow their guests to say and their hosts.
shareI'll take Fox News deciding to settle as good reason that they did not feel confident over a randos opinion online, thanks.
The notion that Fox News is on the electoral fraud conspiracy and did this 8d chess move to launder money is amongst the most absurd things I've seen on here.
It's absurd that they would settle for such an outrageous amount. You must be one of their viewers if you are this gullible, go back to watching Hannity.
shareI'm not American.
shareWhat is your point?
shareI also don't watch Fox News. And dude, if Fox News - the most mainstream right-wing Republican network is somehow in collaboration with electoral fraud on behalf of the Democrats, as you suggest, you're completely fucked.
It's a genuine baseless conspiracy theory.
It's a Conspiracy Fact.
That collaboration is part of the UniPartY.
In most cases, when it comes to money, there are no sides.
Well now your insane boy
shareWell, 34 guilty verdicts on May 31st, 2024. Sentencing is not until July 11th and Trump will appeal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution_of_Donald_Trump_in_New_York#Jury_deliberations_and_verdict
Feel free to look at the 480 links to learn why Trump was indicted, put on trial and convicted.
480 links of propaganda from the the most unreliable source (WokePedia).
That's why we have the appellate court system.
Oh, btw, that verdict was a trap for them, no immunity for any of them.
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All the precedents that Trump has established in the past seven and half years:
- Presidents and Former Presidents can be impeached.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can be forced to reveal tax and business records.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can lose executive privilege.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can lose attorney-client privilege.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can be forced to release private phone records and text messages.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can have their homes raided by the FBI.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can be subpoenaed by partisan committees.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can be repeatedly indicted and arrested.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can lose their First Amendment right to free speech.
- Presidents and Former Presidents can lose the right to a jury trial.
- VP no longer has authority to question validity of disputed electoral votes.
- The losing party no longer has authority to submit contingent electors when results are disputed.
- Presidents and Former Presidents don't have Presidential Immunity.
The verdict was a trap for who?
Trump is a former president, all of that stuff happens to other people who violate the law. Why should Trump be immune?
Trump's right to a jury trial was never violated. When Judge Engoron decided to have a bench trial, it was within his authority to do so.
The 1st Amendment is not absolute, everyone else knows this, why don't you?
The VP never had the right to dispute electoral votes. That right was reserved for Congress.
No party was ever allowed to submit alternate electors for their state just because results were disputed.
Trump was the first pussy who declared he needed immunity.
A trap for them: Judges, Politicians, VPs, Former and Current Presidents.
Trump never violated anything, you and I know that those were trumped up charges.
Those Judges broke the law.
Yes and the precedent for using the 1st-Amendment against them has been set.
Nevertheless; the VP went along with the fraudulent votes, he did nothing to dispute them or challenge them.
They have been using alternate electors since the 60s.
He never required immunity, he was setting an example and a precedent for them. And it worked perfectly.
So even though NY statutes make it illegal to make false entries into business records, it was not a crime when Trump did it? Why is Trump immune, but no one else is?
There is no trap; you're letting your over active imagination get the better of you.
Pence did not have the power to do anything about those votes. That was the job of Congress. Alternate electors were never put in place fraudulently.
Trump has been demanding immunity for a long time. Why is this news to you? So Trump's trap is to go to prison to "own the libs"? Good luck with that hahahahahaha.
Pence had the power to question them, challenge them or dispute them, he did nothing, he went along with the fraudulent votes (Treason).
Once again, alternate electors have been used since the 60s.
The DNC along with the "Transition Integrity Project" had plans to use alternate electors to clear a Trump win, its well document as one of their simulated roles.
Did you actually believe that Trump was so shortsighted that his plans would end on Jan-20-2021?
Plans to use alternate electors is not the same as trying to use them and getting away with it.
Pence was not required to dispute the votes. Not treason.
Trump was still in office when Pence refused to dispute the votes. Trump would have dealt with Pence, as he claimed he could do, but he choose to do nothing. When Trump did nothing about Pence's alleged treason, was Trump committing treason also?
Yes. Trump can't see past his dick, if he can even see it at all without a mirror.
They have actually used alternate electors since the 60s.
The plans for alternate electors were for a Trump win if their fraudulent votes were not enough.
Stop being so obtuse.
It's not about "requiring", Pence made no attempt at questioning or challenging the votes.
He knew for a fact that the votes were questionable and went along with it (Treason).
- Trump didn't do anything to Pence because it was part of his long term plans.
- Trump didn't do anything to the general that stripped him of his CIC powers on J6 because it was part of his long term plans.
- Trump didn't release the election receipts by the military because it was part of his long term plans.
You are a shortsighted person that lacks discernment so you're incapable of comprehending long term plans.
>- Trump didn't release the election receipts by the military because it was part of his long term plans.
Still waiting on the evidence that the military has these "election reciepts" and why a loser like you would be privvy to it.
Also, I love how like every single drawback that Trump suffers is all part of a "plan". This a total cult mindset.
if you lived in america you would privvy to whats going on over here. it would be like me getting news about Princess Kate.
shareYou can easily get news about the royal family. All UK news sources are accessible internationally.
I will ask again:
Still waiting on the evidence that the military has these "election reciepts" and why a loser like you would be privvy to it.
Also, I love how like every single drawback that Trump suffers is all part of a "plan". This a total cult mindset.
according to UK news sources, the queen actually died and was replaced by a look a like.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/17/people-question-everything-now-how-kates-photo-scandal-rips-up-the-rules-for-royals-and-the-media
no one is asking for "election receipts" except for you. and all these sources are easily accessible via the internet.
if you think our cult is bad. you should talk to the people in the Dictator Joes Cult.
>according to UK news sources, the queen actually died and was replaced by a look a like.
That source says no such thing. It's reporting on the rumours spreading from a digitally edited picture that Kate put out.
What even is your point here?
>no one is asking for "election receipts" except for you. and all these sources are easily accessible via the internet.
You make claims that the election is "stolen" people will ask you to back it up. There are no credible sources that the election was stolen. It's a made-up conspiracy theory. You can't back your shit up so you delay, you obfuscate, you play dumb. It's plain to see. You and others do it all the time.
>if you think our cult is bad. you should talk to the people in the Dictator Joes Cult.
What the fuck are you talking about? No-one cares about Biden. Everyone who is a Democrat is at best indifferent to him.
so you are saying Kate is alive and Will didnt kill her? do you have any evidence of this?
in america, you dont need evidence. by using the Nancy Pelosi playbook you can make up anything you want. not sure if you remember back in 2016 when Nancy said that Trump colluded with Russia to hijack the election? they got Mueller to investigate for 2 years and he found no collusion and then in the Durham report it was found that there was no evidence and it was all fake. even though Obama said that our elections are 100% unhackable and mocked Trump for saying they could be rigged. also remember when Hillary was fined by the sec because she lied about the origins of the steele dossier? then Nancy went on to say that Trump was going to steal the 2020 election and Joe said he was going to lose by chicanery and Hillary said not to concede under any circumstances. then last year Hillary said that Russia was going to help Trump again. so you see you can just make up stuff and get away with it, unless you are a republican. then you are fined for saying elections can be rigged.
>so you are saying Kate is alive and Will didnt kill her? do you have any evidence of this?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/kate-middleton-first-public-appearance-cancer-diagnosis-1235923587/
>in america, you dont need evidence. by using the Nancy Pelosi playbook you can make up anything you want. not sure if you remember back in 2016 when Nancy said that Trump colluded with Russia to hijack the election?
I'm not bound by Nancy Pelosi.
> they got Mueller to investigate for 2 years and he found no collusion and then in the Durham report it was found that there was no evidence and it was all fake.
Right, so the investigation went nowhere. So what's your point?
>even though Obama said that our elections are 100% unhackable and mocked Trump for saying they could be rigged. also remember when Hillary was fined by the sec because she lied about the origins of the steele dossier?
Not quite what seemed to have happened: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html
> then Nancy went on to say that Trump was going to steal the 2020 election and Joe said he was going to lose by chicanery and Hillary said not to concede under any circumstances.
What is your fucking point here? These are just comments made predicting that Trump would to challenge the result, which he did.
>then last year Hillary said that Russia was going to help Trump again. so you see you can just make up stuff and get away with it
When did I say that people can't just make stuff up in the USA? Is your defence now that other people lie? Are you inadvertently admitting that Trump lied?
>unless you are a republican. then you are fined for saying elections can be rigged.
None of Trumps cases have anything to do with him just saying "elections can be rigged".
Who else has been fined purely for saying "elections can be rigged"?
Fox news was fined for saying the election was rigged.
shareFox News was taken to court for defamation by Dominion. Quite different.
sharesame thing. you can say the election was rigged.
Nancy said the election was hijacked by Russia and nothing happened. remember when Nancy tweeted the election was hijacked and the Mueller/Durham report said she lied?
>same thing. you can say the election was rigged.
What you can't do, as a major organisation, is launch baseless claims against another company, knowing lie about them, that harm their reputation. Or are you against libel laws now?
>Nancy said the election was hijacked by Russia and nothing happened. remember when Nancy tweeted the election was hijacked and the Mueller/Durham report said she lied?
No-one gets arrested just for saying shit. You do realise that Republican politicians, activists and influencers claim that 2020 was rigged ALL THE TIME and none of them have been arrested. Why is this?
Nancy was speaker of the house and slandered Trump. she was libel against Trump. but its ok to say elections are rigged if you are democrat. anyone that said the 2020 election was mocked because it was the Big Lie. so basically if you are a democrat you can say elections are stolen but if you are a republican you cant say elections are stolen. lots of people were arrested for protesting a fraudulent election.
share>Nancy was speaker of the house and slandered Trump. she was libel against Trump.
Name me a Republican who has been charged for libeling a particular person.
> but its ok to say elections are rigged if you are democrat.
No-one gets arrested just for saying shit. You do realise that Republican politicians, activists and influencers claim that 2020 was rigged ALL THE TIME and none of them have been arrested. Why is this?
>lots of people were arrested for protesting a fraudulent election.
No, they were arrested for trying to break into the Capitol building from crimes ranging from vandalism, assault to trespassing. Not the same.
Name me a Republican specifically arrested just for saying the 2020 election was rigged.
Trump was charged and had to pay a fine. I never said people get arrested. I said that republicans cant say elections can be rigged. name me a democrat who was held libel for saying the 2016 election was rigged?
share>Trump was charged and had to pay a fine.
For things that had nothing to do with just claiming the election was stolen.
>I said that republicans cant say elections can be rigged. name me a democrat who was held libel for saying the 2016 election was rigged?
Name me a Republican who was held libel for saying the 2016 election was rigged.
No-one gets arrested just for saying shit. You do realise that Republican politicians, activists and influencers claim that 2020 was rigged ALL THE TIME and none of them have been arrested. Why is this?
"Name me a Republican who has been charged for libeling a particular person."
this was your question. did you forget already? lol
Fox news was held libel for saying the election was rigged. but you could say the election was rigged in 2016. you cant say the election was rigged in 2020. Hillary said the 2024 election is going to be rigged. even though Obama said our elections cant be rigged.
>this was your question. did you forget already? lol
Fox News didn't libel a specific person. They defamed a company, who chose to press charges. And it was to do with their accusations towards Dominion, not specifically for claiming the election was fraudulent.
I'll try AGAIN.
Name me a Republican who was held libel for saying the 2016 election was rigged.
No-one gets arrested just for saying shit. You do realise that Republican politicians, activists and influencers claim that 2020 was rigged ALL THE TIME and none of them have been arrested. Why is this?
they were held libel because they said the 2020 election was rigged, you can only say the 2016 election was rigged.
no republicans said the 2016 election was rigged. Nancy said the election was hijacked.
the only people to be arrested were people protesting the 2020 election. the 2016 protesters were not arrested. like I said its ok to say the 2016 election was rigged but you cant say the 2020 election was rigged. its the Big Lie.
>they were held libel because they said the 2020 election was rigged, you can only say the 2016 election was rigged.
No, they were not. That is NOT what happened.
>no republicans said the 2016 election was rigged. Nancy said the election was hijacked.
Plenty of Republicans have said the 2020 election was rigged. Why have they not been arrested?
>the only people to be arrested were people protesting the 2020 election.
That was not a protest. They were arrested for trying to break into the Capitol building from crimes ranging from vandalism, assault to trespassing. Not the same.
What 2016 protest are you referring to?
>like I said its ok to say the 2016 election was rigged but you cant say the 2020 election was rigged. its the Big Lie.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-insists-2020-000542008.html
Why hasn't MTG been arrested? Don't deflect. Answer. If you can't say it was rigged - why hasn't she been arrested?
so Fox news wasnt held libel? please make up your mind. you cant be arrested for saying the election was rigged. you can be held libel for saying the 2020 was rigged but you can still say the 2016 election was rigged and not be held libel. the capitol police let them in, did you not see the videos? why would MTG be arrested? she didnt say the 2016 election was rigged. Nancy said the 2016 election was rigged and nothing happened. Joe said the 2020 election would be rigged and Hillary said the 2024 election will be rigged. but you can only say the 2016 election was rigged.
share>so Fox news wasnt held libel? please make up your mind.
Show me where I said that. Quote me.
>you cant be arrested for saying the election was rigged. you can be held libel for saying the 2020 was rigged but you can still say the 2016 election was rigged and not be held libel.
No-one was charged with libel just for saying the election was rigged. Stop fucking lying.
>the capitol police let them in, did you not see the videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iludfj6Pe7w
And explain this please.
>why would MTG be arrested? she didnt say the 2016 election was rigged.
MTG has repeatedly said the 2020 election was rigged. You claim people get arrested for saying that. Why has she not been arrested?
And why the fuck can't you use paragraphs?
show me the quote where I didnt say that? like I said you cant say the 2020 election was stolen even though Nancy said that Trump was going to steal the election again and Joe said he was going to lose by chicanery and Hillary said not to concede under any circumstances. but then Nancy said that Trump stole the 2016 election and Hillary said that Trump was an illegitimate president, even though Mueller said that Trump won fair and square and the Durham report said all the evidence in the steele dossier was fake. show me the quote where I said people can be arrested? I said you cant say the 2020 election was stolen but you can say the 2016 election was stolen. because I type fast and dont have time for paragraphs. if you cant read this then copy and paste it in word and make your own paragraphs.
share>show me the quote where I didnt say that?
Back to your incoherent troll question. Fox News had a case against them for defamation against another company, not because they said 2020 was rigged.
> like I said you cant say the 2020 election was stolen
No-one was charged with libel just for saying the election was rigged. Stop fucking lying.
MTG has repeatedly said the 2020 election was rigged. You claim people get arrested for saying that. Why has she not been arrested?
>Nancy said that Trump was going to steal the election again and Joe said he was going to lose by chicanery and Hillary said not to concede under any circumstances. but then Nancy said that Trump stole the 2016 election and Hillary said that Trump was an illegitimate president, even though Mueller said that Trump won fair and square and the Durham report said all the evidence in the steele dossier was fake.
Who gives a fuck.
>show me the quote where I said people can be arrested?
"I said that republicans cant say elections can be rigged. name me a democrat who was held libel for saying the 2016 election was rigged?"
What happens to Republicans who claim the 2020 election was rigged?
>because I type fast and dont have time for paragraphs. if you cant read this then copy and paste it in word and make your own paragraphs.
I do. And it's a simple enter bar press to make paragraphs. I also type fast.
The “defame a company” was a bait-and-switch that was used as an $800m internal payoff.
FOX was in on the rigging when they "called the election."
>The “defame a company” was a bait-and-switch that was used as an $800m internal payoff.
You keep claiming this but have provided no evidence for it. More baseless conspiracy garbage.
>FOX was in on the rigging when they "called the election."
This claim is rooted in your completely baseless presupposition about the 2020 election.
the walls are closing in! lol
share12 people disagree with you
share12 democrats.
share[–] JoWilli (15917) 6 hours ago12 Voting Age Adults
12 democrats.
thats 48, you are turrible at math
sharelol,🤣 Norrin is still learning how to count.
shareyeah, his best trolling days are in the past.
share[–] tvfan (9244) a day agoThanks for the shout-out!
lol,🤣 Norrin is still learning how to count.
[–] JoWilli (15981) a day agoAs far as your "Math" is concerned tell the internet where you see the "+" sign as an operator. 🤣 Meanwhile, as a PSA we will allow the internet to assist with your "Critical Thinking Math for Jurists" logic:
thats 48, you are turrible at math
tell the internet where you see the "+" sign as an operator.
[–] tvfan (9250) an hour agoToo bad there is NO WAY to imply an operator, and there are a couple by the way, (+,*,-,/). You care to try again?
It’s not necessary; it was inferred by the equal sign below your separate counts.
The use of semantics and sophistry to backpedal is not a rebuttal or a refutation.No semantics required when Sarcasm and Topical humor are on the menu. 👍🗽👍
Is JoWilli ≥ or ≤ tvfan?share
JoWilli
tvfan
Bubbathegut
miyagido
Corbell
whynotwriteme
branson26
= great Americans who fight for Justice and Truth and for Trump.
tvfan is a also a great american, just because we think alike it doesnt mean we are the same person.
you say stupid stuff all the time but I dont accuse you of being robocat.
they were def 12 democrats. 1 dem DA, 1 dem Judge, 8.3 mil dems, 1 dem ring leader.
= sham trial
I am still voting for Trump.
@JoWilli..........Do you really think the jury had 12 democrats? Honestly? Think about that. What kind of looney toon attorneys did Trump have that would not want conservative jurors? There had to be six liberals and 6 conservatives on the jury. If not, Trump should fire every one of his looney toon defense team.
sharehttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-rules-favor-jan-6-capitol-riot-participant-challenged-obstruction-conviction
Another major win for Trump
best week ever
sharenice, a win for Trump is a win for America.
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