Trump isn't hiding his fascist ideals and polls show his "immigrants are poisoning the blood of our nation" statement was a real turn- on for his supporters. Just admit it!
shareHuge fan. 'Uge.
shareneither is Dictator Joe that is arresting journalists now.
#not my america
You cant ask that question because both parties think "fascism" means "what the other party does"
Obviously the Trumpers are the ones in the wrong with that , but you cant ask then because they don't understand. Even DJTs recent descent into true dictator wannabee wont make it clear enough for them.
I was one of about 60 journalists who followed the story into the Capitol on #Jan6 - independents and otherwise. None of those who submitted their stories and videos to the regime’s approved outlets have been charged.
Fascist Joe has to go!
Sounds like they're letting people off the trespassing charge , but he's resisting the "we are seizing your recordings as evidence" for some reason .
why isnt he letting them have a copy?
Trump was POTUS for four years and was never dictator nor fascist, yet, he jokes about been a dictator for a single day and you brainwashed leftoids have a meltdown while your master Joe has been an authoritarian fascist since day one.
shareI was with ya all the way up to when u called Joe a facist.
People have indeed overreacted to that 'one day' thing
Like I said earlier everyone just like the call the other side facist.
Truth is , neither side is.
https://i.postimg.cc/LX0YQ4qS/Early-Warning-Signs-of-Fascism.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zByK7j5y/Trump-vs-Biden.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/G2c1DTh8/Biden-Hitler.jpg
How does Trump support gun rights with his bump stock ban and his plan to confiscate any gun from any person who is imagined to be violent with his "take the guns 1st" insanity?
Trump is one of those "defund the police" wackos. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/donald-trump-calls-defunding-federal-police-arrest-new-york-rcna78301
Trump is pro-abortion. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bring-country-together-abortion-meet-the-press-rcna105311
Trump promised, but did not build, a wall that Mexico would pay for.
Trump tax breaks are mainly for the rich. https://www.forbes.com/sites/camilomaldonado/2019/10/10/trump-tax-cuts-helped-billionaires-pay-less-taxes-than-the-working-class-in-2018/
Biden spends more on the military than Trump does. https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/FY2023/FY23_Green_Book.pdf
Trump tax cuts for the wealthy do not benefit the working class.
Trump allowed the state governors to lock during the pandemic.
Trump the dictator would not favor capitalism.
tvfan doesn't care about the truth or even WANT the truth, he just wants to believe his propaganda because it makes him feel safe.
shareYeah. tvfan often takes issue with me insulting Trump for his gun grab. He claims the gun grab is fake, but will not take a stand on whether or not bump stocks are banned.
If he thinks bump stocks are banned, does he have any idea how it was accomplished? He also seems to think the federal laws and regulations are a hoax.
I already addressed all your claims months ago but you refuse to accept/comprehend them due to your severe TDS or you suffer from memory loss like moviechatterer.
shareAs I remember, you claim that federal law and regulations are fake as is the bump stock ban and Trump's plan to confiscate any gun from any person without due process.
How do you think the bump stock ban was accomplish if Trump did not do it?
Wrong topic or you are confusing me with someone else.
I have already stated that those decisions were made by the DS/RINO members and advisors of the swamp. Trump left it up to the states.
No. You claimed in another thread that Trump did not ban bump stocks. How is it that you think Trump did not ban them when they are not for sale anymore?
https://moviechat.org/nm1227121/Tucker-Carlson/6587b5ff5776c162d516fabf/Tucker-Carlson-talks-COVID-19-vaccines-UFOs-and-claims-Alex-Jones-has-prophetic-ability?reply=6589a7c5f637b03fd4d33780
I noticed that you didn't quote anything I said and instead linked to your own suggestive claims.
shareDamn, it is not that hard to find your own posts in that small thread.
[–] tvfan (5486) 2 days ago
I require evidence to determine if Carlson is lying or not lying.
Evidence can be falsified.
You believed their PDF of what they declared a bump stock should be without applying any deductive reasoning or common sense to make a rational conclusion.
The government controls a bump stock as a contraband machine gun.
Yes, by the DS, regardless of POTUS.
So you conflate a general statement to all your wild claims.
Btw, none that shows where I claimed “that Trump did not ban bump stocks.”
My statement was in reference to the PDF.
Oh, and when you blockquote, make sure to include the name above each statement for better reference.
For example:
Ranbshare
I require evidence to determine if Carlson is lying or not lying.
tvfan
Evidence can be falsified.
You believed their PDF of what they declared a bump stock should be without applying any deductive reasoning or common sense to make a rational conclusion.
Ranb
The government controls a bump stock as a contraband machine gun.
tvfan
Yes, by the DS, regardless of POTUS.
What other evidence is there, besides the CFR, that shows Trump banned bump stocks?
You still not stated your position on the legal status of bump stocks and who banned them.
You can figure out who said which statement.
Let me fix that for you since it is a perfect and accurate description of leftoids:
Leftists don’t care about the truth or even WANT the truth; they just want to believe The MSM propaganda because it makes them feel safe.
News of Trump's and any other politician's anti-gun agendas do not make me feel safe. Why do anti-gun laws make you feel safe?
shareClearly you don't know what fascism is..
shareHow about somebody who says that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our nation?
How about somebody who is planning to fire all heads of civil service and replace them with people loyal to him over being loyal to the Constitution and the country and the law.
How about somebody who wants the DOJ to do what he said, investigate who he tells them to, jails who he wants instead of independently following the law.
How about someone who doesn't respect the legitimate result of elections and tries to overturn the votes of millions of voters.
For starters...
There is nothing wrong with being against immigration. What kind of fucktard are you?
shareI suppose you think there's noting wrong with fascism
shareI made a serious response to your idiotic op. You failed to respond in kind.
My point stands. There is nothing wrong with being against immigration. It is a valid policy position. Bleeting FACISM like a brain damaged sheep, is not a valid response.
Ok, I suppose you think there's noting wrong with fascism, you fucktard?
shareTheir is nothing "FASCIST" about being anti-immigration and only a fucking asshole would claim there was.
shareBeing anti- immigrant (nativism) is one of the hallmarks of fascism.
shareAnti-immigrant is not the same word as nativism.
You have jsut admitted that your entire argument is based on you playing a stupid word game.
And by stupid, I mean really, REALLY fucking stupid. Llke RETARDED stupid.
In the real world, what has actualy been going of for a long time now, is that any serious debate about immigration policy has been impossible because when every we try to have a seroius disccussion,
it is shouted down by retarded assholes screaming "Wacism" or "fascism".
And btw, ONE of the terrible results of that, is a LOT of dead people along the border. Good job on that IP.
Another terrible result of that, is a serious SLAVERY problem in the sw. Which blows my fucking mind. THANKS for that one IP.
And that's just two very clear and simple ones, to give an idea of what you are part of, lefty.
Dictionary
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na·tiv·ism
/ˈnādəˌviz(ə)m/
noun
noun: nativism
1. US: the policy of protecting the interests of native-born or established inhabitants against those of immigrants.
"a deep vein of xenophobia and nativism"
A lot of the problems you mention are real, such as slavery of immigrants. Problems like that are the doings of American citizens, not the new immigrants, who are the victims.
1. That's a pretty weak definition of nativism. Any government policy should favor the interests of their CITIZENS vs those of NON-CITIZENS. Calling any government or policy that does that, "facsist" would be stupid.
2. I doubt that is actually true. I have certainly not seen a breakdown of the demographics of modern us slave owners, but my undertanding is that it is generally based around debt to the illegal MEXICAN crime organizations that brough the slave(s) into the country. They would be mostly mexicans or other latin americans themselves.
It's a definition from a fucking dictionary, lol
shareAnd it's fucking retarded. ANY AND EVERY national policy that benefits CITIZENS vs immigrants is "nativism"?
That is an attack on the very idea of nations. That is bullshit. That reeks of a recent "update" by some fucktard lefty that got a job in the dictionary company with a plan to advance progressive iddeas or some such bullshit.
I also like that the one example we were discussing, , ie modern slavery, you dropped like a rock the moment we started thinking about it in detail.
Me? I think the fact that we have a serious slavery problem is a national scandal that should be the target of a massive and rapid response to crush it ASAP.
YOU? Your side accepts it as the price of doing business. The open border, and the free flow of illegals is more important, so any attempt to address the issue of slavery, gets shut down.
Ironically, this is a good example of how our national immigration policy is NOT "nativism" because if the laws were ENFORCED, slavery would NOT be allowed to continue, and those slaves would NOT be being enslaved, tortured, raped and killed.
Citizens can be immigrants. If one favors native-born people over immigrants , that is nativism.
shareThey CAN be. I am not aware of any information of the breakdown on the slavers, ie, illegals, vs legalized first gen immigrants.
Do you have an example of a Republcian policy that benefits native born citizens vs immigrant citizens?
It should be pretty fucking big too, to justify your use of such loaded language as calling us FASCISTS.
And if you can't, that supports my position, that the definition is a really bad definition.
It's the rhetoric. And the sentiments of many who are drawn to Trump because they do not like any immigrants. He knows his audience.
shareSo, the definition YOU posted to support your harsh rhetoric, defines nativism by policy and now YOU can't name a single policy to support your slander?
Seriously. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
What do you think it means when Trump says "poisoning the blood of our nation"?
What do you think it means, that when a con and a lib talk about these issues, that the con can point to large scale ACTIONS and POLICIES and people DYING IN THE DESERTS AND THE STREETS, and teh lib is reduced to talking about rhetoric, AND even not clear rhetoric but what you imagine that people you hate MUST HAVE MEANT,
and you think that that isy you justifying your slander.
How about this. How about you drop the crazy talk of "fascism" and such shit, and discuss why you think it is ok for millions of foriegn citiznes to pour into our country without our consent.
I'm backing this up to where the thread isn't so squeezed.
You asked for a policy espoused by Trump that is nativist.
Elimination of birthright (de solis) citizenship.
No, I asked for a policy that benefits native born citizens at the expense of first gen immigrant citizens. (no stupid word games buddy)
Elimination of birthright citizenship does not do that.
I don't care what you ask for. I'm not your monkey.
shareNo, but you are definitely the establishment’s monkey.🐒
shareErrr, ok.
Thus you reveal that you are utterly unable to support your slander/the op, against your fellow Americans.
Yet you will continue to spew such shit talk, becuase you hate them and want to tear this country apart.
That makes you the loser of this thread, and the bad guy.
What does Trump mean when he talks about "poisoning the blood of our nation," and why do you support that?
shareBecause I think that the MASSIVE violation of our rights of self determination, deserves strong action.
Whining over some harsh language while our territory is being invaded by literally TENS OF MILLIONS of hostile foriengers, is stupid beyond words.
I think it would be very HEALTHY for our society if insulting the illegals on a regular basis because normalized.
DEPORT THEM ALL. INSULT THEM WHILE WE DO IT.
Calling people running from terror and trying to immigrate to this country with their children to give them a better life thieves, rapists, drug dealers, poison, etc. is WRONG. They are people, no less valuable than you or me.
share1. Quite a lot of crime and drugs and rape coming across the border. It needs to be discussed. YOU tryihng to shut down serious political discussion is WRONG.
2. Those just coming here to "give their children a better life" are still causing US a lot of problems and violating our rights and laws. Some harsh language is the least of what we should do. They deserve to be punished and deported.
3. "Less valuable"? This is AMERICA. We should have national policy to protect and benefit AMERICANS. DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.
According to Ivana Trump, her then husband, Donald kept Hitler quotes by his bedside. Face it, Donald Trump admires Hitler and wants to be just like him. And to think, Trump lied again by saying in a recent speech that he knows nothing about Hitler. Liar, liar, pants on fire................
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hitler-speeches-ivana-poisoning-blood-b2466500.html
Funny how nobody gives the full quote. He specified "illegal" immigrants, but of course, that doesn't sound sinister enough to the desperate and terrified Leftists so they leave it out.
shareOf course they left it out.
The do the same with all their bullshit lying fact-checkers using different methods of distorting the truth and by excluding pertinent information that would contradict their narrative.
You think there's nothing bad about saying illegal immigrated are poisoning the blood of our nations?
No, because it's true. The blood of our nation refers to our social systems and legal systems and these people are indeed poisoning them by coming here in droves with no means of support. And yes, a great deal of them are committing crimes.
Only a deliberately obtuse Liberal wanting to paint Trump as Hitler claims he means it in a racial way.
If one was concerned about the economic burden of immigrants, then why not talk about the economic burden (you'd be wrong, by the way. Every study ever done shows a positive economic impact of immigration). Poisoning the blood in no way suggests what you are saying.
You are inventing a meaning of "poisoning the blood" to hide the eugenics- based dog whistle that was intended.
Every study ever done shows a positive economic impact of immigration
Studies done by economists, numbnuts
shareFunded Economists.
shareDo you work for free?
I was mistaken in saying that every economic analysis of immigration said it was beneficial. The arch-conservative Heritage foundation published a study in 2016 saying it was not. That's your funded economist problem.
Interestingly, the right-wing Cato Institute published a critique that called the Heritage study a bunch of bunk.
https://www.cato.org/blog/heritages-flawed-immigration-analysis
If he meant it as a eugenics-based dog whistle, why did he specify illegal immigrants? Why not address the citizens of other races already in the country?
The only way you can make it racial is to conveniently ignore that he said "illegal". Oh yeah... That's what the Leftist news is doing.
Why "poisoning the blood"? You are ignoring that.
shareBecause the illegals are entering the country the way a toxin enters the human body. Through the open wound of the border.
If it was a racist message why wouldn't he also be talking about the people of color already here? Why wouldn't he say something like "The tumor growing in our inner cities?"
The USA population has never been a homogeneous racial group. It's foolish and/or disingenuous to assume an American leader would have some Hitlerian "Master Race" motive here, especially in 2023.
Just so you know, basically my entire immediate family are Hispanic US citizens except me and my son (He's actually 1/4 Hispanic but looks all Anglo), and they ALL agree with Trump that ILLEGAL immigration is indeed like a serious infection that is weakening the country. I myself am a Canadian LEGAL permanent resident immigrant to the US and I also agree.
He bashes inner cities all the time.
"The USA population has never been a homogeneous racial group. It's foolish and/or disingenuous to assume an American leader would have some Hitlerian "Master Race" motive here, especially in 2023."
Fear and hatred of immigrants has always been as American as apple pie. My southern Italian immigrant ancestors were called mentally and morally inferior to the Northern European stock already here. As were Eastern European Jews. Revulsion to immigration of these people were the impetus for the first immigration quotas in the 1920s. It helped fuel the spread of the KKK to new areas of the country. I'll give you a pass on American history since you are not a native.
BTW, my Sicilian grandparents, who were hated when they immigrated here, used to complain about NYC being ruined by hispanic immigrants back in the 70s and 80s. It's a phenomenon we call "shutting the door behind you", so I am not surprised as the feelings of your Hispanic relatives.
What you are still stubbornly refusing to acknowledge is that Donald Trump, my Hispanic-American relatives, and legal immigrant me whose great-great grandfather legally immigrated to Canada from Calabria, Italy in the 1890s have NO PROBLEM at all with LEGAL immigrants.
shareThat's fine but the lines blur and Trump knows a lot of Republicans don't want ANY immigration.
shareOnce again, you are referring to RINOs that pretend that they don't want "ANY" immigration.
You are deflecting as usual. There is a difference between "legal" and "illegal" immigration, and the uniparty-establishment along with the MSM are conflating both.
I hate fascists, that is why i despise the left and support DT
sharePer Google..........."Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived ..."
Did you read the part that says FAR RIGHT????
No such thing; “the left” moved it from the left to the right because they were too ashamed and desperate to associate it on the same side as communism and it went down in history books as a right-wing ideology at the end of WW2 which is why it is called “the big lie.”
The leftists have created their own falsified version of the political spectrum and grids.
Libertarianism is only a right-wing ideology and it is impossible to be on the same side as fascism, both are polar opposites.
Also, fascism is statism and collectivism which are only on the left.