Who is guilty of the felony of leaking the 34 counts?
One guaranteed felony for someone so far. If they're a democrat, no doubt they'll get away with it, no consequences.
shareOne guaranteed felony for someone so far. If they're a democrat, no doubt they'll get away with it, no consequences.
shareposted a minute ago by RogueDemonHunter (2529)Bless your heart. It must be the same person who disclosed that DJT had stolen stuff from Mar-a-Lago.
One guaranteed felony for someone so far. If they're a democrat, no doubt they'll get away with it, no consequences.
I don't know, was it?
Great contribution to discussion...
I just don't see how it benefits Trump to leak it. Regardless, someone is definitely guilty of a felony here.
[–] RogueDemonHunter (2530) 2 hours agoIn many ways DJT operated very much like William Randolph Hearst (Newspaper Scion) and information was power. DJT wants to control the narrative by getting ahead of the story making it seem like HE is in control. He is delusional enough to think that the only BAD news is NO news. That may work in the Court of Public Opinion but not in a legal court. DJT would also like to taint the jury pool. share
I don't know, was it?
Great contribution to discussion...
I just don't see how it benefits Trump to leak it. Regardless, someone is definitely guilty of a felony here.
Comparing Trump to William Randolph Hearst is not only a stretch, it's a blatant attempt to smear his reputation with a false analogy. Trump's approach to the media is based on transparency and holding them accountable for their biased reporting.
Furthermore, Trump's desire to control the narrative is not a delusion, but a smart strategy that has been utilized by many successful leaders throughout history. It's not about controlling the media, but about ensuring that the American people receive accurate and unbiased information.
And as for your comment about tainting the jury pool, that's nothing more than a baseless accusation. Trump has the right to defend himself against any false allegations or witch hunts, and he has every right to use his platform to present his side of the story. Let's not forget that in America, everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and that includes President Trump.
Let's focus on the facts and not resort to cheap shots and gaslighting tactics. The American people deserve honest and open discussions, not false accusations and lies.
[–] Miyagido (1844) an hour agoDJT has operated very much like William Randolph Hearst. If you want a definitive statement then you'll just to wait until David Pecker is called in to testify as a prosecution witness to the Catch-and-Kill fraud scheme that DJTY is being charged with:
Comparing Trump to William Randolph Hearst is not only a stretch, it's a blatant attempt to smear his reputation with a false analogy.
The details of Pecker's so-called "catch and kill" efforts on behalf of Trump were part of the 2018 federal case against Cohen, who pleaded guilty to fronting the $130,000 payment to Daniels. Federal prosecutors called the payment an illegal campaign contribution designed to influence the election by burying Daniels' potentially damaging account.
The ex-publisher "offered to help deal with negative stories about (Trump's) relationships with women by, among other things, assisting the campaign in identifying such stories so they could be purchased and their publication avoided," court papers said at the time.
Trump was reportedly in the room in 2015 when Cohen discussed hush-money payments with Pecker.
Trump's approach to the media is based on transparency and holding them accountable for their biased reporting.The press is the enemy of the People?
Hmmm you appear to have fucked up your formatting, I'll be sporting and give you time to correct it and I'll come back later to respond.
edit: 12hrs later and it's still all fucked up, what happened to you??
You posted something interesting though -
The press is the enemy of the People?
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shareMiyagido is 100% right!
share If they're a democrat, no doubt they'll get away with it, no consequences.
How would that work?
Does the law not apply to democrats?
not seemingly.
shareLiving under a rock recently?
shareyou show me the statute in the lawbooks where there is the exclusion
"oh , this doesent apply to democrats "
It's more of a case of "we couldn't find the law books. Also, we didn't look"
Tell me, why hasn't Hunter Biden been arrested, charged and locked up for all his crimes?
Why hasn't the same been done with Nancy Pelosi for all her insider trading?
Not to mention Bragg's notorious habit of downgrading felony's to misdemeanors resulting in all those criminals back on the streets...
Democrats are protected.
Can you identify an actual crime that Hunter Biden has committed?
shareYou mean other than all the drug crimes, the sex with girls who appeared to be minors, the falsifying information on a gun application? Nah. Not a thing.
"All the drug crimes..."
He had been a drug user, yes, we all know that. He was never caught with possession so what are you going to prosecute.
"...appeared to be minors..."
You can't prosecute somebody for having sex with someone who appears to be a minor.
"Gun permit..."
You don't give a fuck about gun laws.
I want all laws to be applied evenly. If Trump were seen in videos snorting cocaine off a minor, I kind of doubt you'd be saying he broke no laws. As for proof, you'd point to the videos, not say it's a crying shame no police were around while he was doing it.
Hunter's pathetic excuse for all that criminal behavior was that he was taking drugs (one of his crimes). So naturally he'd improperly fill out an application for a gun. Maybe that's his excuse for influence peddling or not reporting that honking diamond he got from the Chinese on his income tax, which would be tax fraud.
So stop with the "He was never caught with" garbage. That's as lame as trying to say I don't care about gun laws or any law. I do. And I want them all to be enforced the same for Democrats as they are for Republicans.
And the other guy is right -- ol' Nancy should be nailed for insider trading. Then again (little-known fact) so should MTG. Neither one will, because Pfizer looks at it as campaign donations, and if MTG was in on it, everyone was in on it.
Not a bad idea at that -- run the whole lot in for insider trading! They'd do it to us. 🤷🏼♀️
I'm still waiting for the Republicans to release what they found on Hunter's laptop. It's been over two years now.
shareWell, I would never vote for Hunter Biden nor trust him in a sensitive government job. But you were talking about prosecuting. For that there is a much different standard.
shareSo if I don't give a fuck about a particular law in a generalized area, that makes it OK for everyone to break it?
shareYes, there are countless. Thanks for asking.
shareUnder Bidens watch he is allowing China to buy up our Farmland. Allowing China's Yuan to replace The US Dollar as the worlds reserve currency with BRICS gaining steam and support. Hands China controlling influence in the oil rich Middle East and allows China to seize influence in Central and South America with Chinese military bases in our hemisphere on the horizon.
He allowed a sophisticated Chinese spy balloon to do figure 8s over our major nuke base. He is allowing an influx of Chinese nationals (Saboteurs?) to flood our border and enter the country illegally. This is the same Biden raking in $$millions in payments for he and his family from China.
But Trump is being prosecuted for hush money payments to Stormy Daniels...
[–] Galilguy (1565) 11 minutes agoDJT was charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying documents in the State of NY. The document reads: THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK against DONALD J. TRUMP.
Under Bidens watch he is allowing China to buy up our Farmland.
But Trump is being prosecuted for hush money payments to Stormy Daniels...
Tell me, what law did Trump break with this supposed falsification of documents?
share[–] RogueDemonHunter (2532) 21 minutes agoThe law that he broke is Falsifying business records:
Tell me, what law did Trump break with this supposed falsification of documents?
S 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.Pretty much bland boring stuff. Am I right? share
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
And that is mentioned in the case is it?
shareIt is in the introduction of the Statement of Facts. You didn't read it, did you?
Here is a link.
https://www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-SOF.pdf
Bon ap·pé·tit 👍
Oh, I read it. Could you clarify what the "Other Crime" he was intending to commit was?
[–] RogueDemonHunter (2536) 9 minutes agoI certainly personally can't because I am not involved in the actual case as a prosecuting or defense attorney.
Oh, I read it. Could you clarify what the "Other Crime" he was intending to commit was?
You also can't because it doesn't exist lol.
NY State cannot write Law allowing them Jurisdiction over Federal Crimes.
It would be Unconstitutional to assume NY Law trumps Federal Law and Prosecutions thereof...
[–] RogueDemonHunter (2538) a minute agoThe law for Falsifying Documents does indeed exist in the state of NY.
You also can't because it doesn't exist lol.
NY State cannot write Law allowing them Jurisdiction over Federal Crimes.Mr. DemonHunter what are you referring to?
It would be Unconstitutional to assume NY Law trumps Federal Law and Prosecutions thereof...Except, I nor anyone else is assuming any such thing. Do you have some apriori knowledge or statements that you are discussing that I am not aware of?
No. The supposed other crime doesn't exist. They need to work together for this to have legs. Notice the use of the word "and" in S 175.10. The fact they have failed to mention it, tells you all you need to know.
Yes, we can all read the title. What do you think then? Trump leaked it himself/a staffer on purpose?
Also, I was referring to NY state claiming these are supposed felony's when they're supposed misdemeanors.
Could this possibly be why no one else ever took up the case? And now it's all past the statute of limitations.
shareYou would think that any competent person would pass due to these reasons. But what have we learned over the past few years? That we're living in clown world. These people operate on whatever terms they like now and get away with it.
shareNothing can be done about any of what you have mentioned. The Republicans in charge hated Trump and handed our country over to Biden and China, and Democrat voters don't care if we are overtaken and taken over by China. They themselves are communists but are not intelligent enough to realize it. I know that this is true. I have relatives who claim to hate communists and communism, but everything that they want IS communism. Nothing can stop what is going to happen here.
shareWhat leak? The indictment was released to the public by the court. This is not going to be a secret trial.
shareThere was an early leak about the 34 count. Not been keeping up with the news?
shareProve it and provide a link.
shareI'll stop the game. It was Bragg that was the leaker.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/trump-attorney-to-don-lemon-lets-remember-that-the-real-crime-that-we-have-is-that-da-bragg-did-leak-that-there-were-34-counts-that-in-itself-is-a-felony-video/
The MAGAt meltdown is glorious to witness!!😂😂😂😂
I can't wait for real serious indictments to drop.
Tell the truth. You genuinely are excited by what's going on?
Oh yeah, don't worry. Those serious indictments will drop anytime now. Ignore the fact they can't even do these little ones. The big stuff is on it's way for sure lol.
I'm not excited but heartened that crime and misconduct are being addressed, and someone who attempted to subvert democracy will hopefully be held accountable.
Don't you realize that if nothing is done, the next wannabe autocrat will push even further?
We have dumbass Gerald Ford to thank for our current aversion to holding presidents accountable for criminal activity.
I think you're still failing to understand just how weak this case is. They got the 34 count because the payment was done in installments.
It's like trying to charge a thief 34 times from one robbery because they stole 34 notes from the till. It would get laughed down to 1 count.
Add to that, the statute of limitations kills this, even if it gets to the supreme court.
You use the word autocrat but you can't see Biden is a million times more guilty of that compared to Trump?
https://twitter.com/piersuncensored/status/1643929242458025984?s=46&t=veox07EZp4AKnPBj_ooPpA
Stormy Daniels has told Piers Morgan she thinks Donald Trump should go to jail if found guilty of the crimes he's been accused of.
"If he doesn't, it opens the door for other people to think they can get away with that, and worse."
There was no crime.
NDAs are legal agreements used 1000s of times a day. Hence why the Department of Justice never indicted Trump after they investigated this matter for years.
The presumption of innocence is a legal principle that every person accused of any crime is considered innocent until proven guilty. Under the presumption of innocence, the legal burden of proof is thus on the prosecution, which must present compelling evidence to the trier of fact.
In a criminal case, the prosecution bears the burden of proving that the defendant is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. This means that the prosecution must convince the jury that there is no other reasonable explanation that can come from the evidence presented at trial.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/beyond_a_reasonable_doubt
In a Trump case, the Democrat media/party bears the burden of putting forth as many conspiracy theories as possible to create the appearance of potential guilt, regardless of a complete lack of evidence. The appearance of accusations thus equates to obvious guilt.
- ABCNNBCBS
Any questions?