https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/07/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-keeps-farting-cows-for-now.html?recirc=taboolainternal
Why "net zero"? The lawmakers explained: "We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren't sure that we'll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast."
I guess I better stop eating beans as well.
Does she even realize that the methane cows produce does not come from their anuses? It comes from their mouths. They burp it out.
share[deleted]
AOCDS must be real considering this isn't her board and she isn't even eligible to run against Trump in 2020.
sharePretty much what I just said too:
https://moviechat.org/nm0874339/Donald-Trump/5c6388d6542e06786e405354/New-poll-shows-rating-down-to-28?reply=5c63b0ee542e06786e4054cb
Yeah. I get the Pelosi talk though. First she gave Trump a beating then she clapped in his face. But all these random discussions about AOC just goes to show how scared shitless they are of someone who can't even challenge Trump for the presidency. Derangement syndrome at its finest.
share[deleted]
People fart too including AO-C undoubtedly!
shareI love how she's using facts to get you imbeciles tripping over each other in your own stupidity.
Or I should say Wall Street is paying pundits to make you trip over yourselves in your own stupidity because Wall Street doesn't like her 70% marginal tax rate above $10 million. Thats really what all this comes down to.
Its been known for years that cows release an insane amount of methane into the air, mostly from their mouths. But conservatives don't have time to learn anything. Its so much easier for you to remain stupid.
she is a dummy. dont agree much with her politics but she is a hot lady tho; i would love to have a sexy time with her...
shareSomeone did the math and said it would take 110 million Americans to die for us to get to net-zero in 10 years. Meanwhile, the original release said the Green New Deal, which every Democrat Presidential candidate has signed off on, wants to get rid of any fossil fuel combustible engine, which means all cars, buses, and planes -- and your basic way of life as you know it -- as the ultimate goal. It seems to either want us all to herd ourselves into the inner city (an impossibility) or all of us go back to the early 1800's. And it will take lots and lots of taxes to achieve all of this. If you've been paying attention to what's happening under Macron's France -- rioting in the streets, with the attending destruction and death toll -- that's what you're going to see under this Democrat's pipe dream of a Green New Deal.
Sparticus wants the government to tax meat until it's unaffordable to encourage veganism as a way to avoid the sky falling from Climate Change. 🙄
As the joke goes, "All they have to do is not be insane...." 😂
"Someone did the math..."
Can you be more general so you can be even less credible (if that's possible) ?
[deleted]
And you know the taxes to change over all of this couldn't even be paid if we took all of the money of people in the Leo DiCaprio or Bill Gates tax bracket, right? So that means the middle class takes a hit, right? And businesses, right? Which leaves us with an economy in the toilet and a mass exodus of the people who can afford to live elsewhere, right? Like what's happening in California and New York, right?
And then we have the riots that they're having in France, right? What do you get when you have total social upheaval, a trashed world economy and more debt than we can ever repay? And what happens when we realize that China has no interest in joining in on your game, but will keep churning out greenhouse gasses to sell stuff to anyone who can buy it until the rest of the world is bankrupt?
BTW, how big a carbon footprint does the company who makes your computer/tablet/iPad/iPhone have? And if all this is really that important, why are the celebs and politicians who claim the sky is falling own several homes (enormous carbon footprints, there) and fly around in private jets? You'd think they'd be living the green lifestyle if they really believed what they preached.
My mother's family were sharecroppers who had no hot and cold running water, no electricity, no lights -- just coal oil lamps and similar 1800's "technology." They actually made it through the Great Depression just fine because they were poor and always would be poor. They grew their own food and made do. When stuff really hits the fan because of over-taxation, over-spending, and over-regulation that chokes businesses into closures, causes massive unemployment and the social upheaval we can already see starting in other countries, it'll be the people on the land, with crops, farting cows and methane producing pigs and chickens that'll be laughing at you guys who were betting on the alternatives to fossil fuel combustion engines.
Nothing wrong with replacing everyone's car with something similar to a Tesla. They already do 0-60 in a neck-breaking 2 seconds. And pretty soon they are coming out with a 600 mile battery.
Fossil fuel engines are quickly becoming obsolete. You complain about celebs and politicians flying on fossil fuel jets but this initiative would help change that as well.
It's right around the corner but as usual conservatives become reactionary because even the smallest amount of change scares them.
"It's right around the corner but as usual conservatives become reactionary because even the smallest amount of change scares them. "
And let's not forget that a big reason for this fear of theirs is because the big-money conglomerates and the oligarchs who run them have spent enormous sums to buy politicians to fight against these changes, not to mention fund dubious scientific "experts" to fabricate data in commissioned studies that they can use to dispute climate change. If conservatives had the intellect to actually look past the nose on their faces, they'd realize how much they're being duped and played like sheep. But they don't, which is why most of them are conservatives in the first place.
[deleted]
I found this. You won’t read it, but it shows another chink in the Green New Deal armor. It turns out that those lovely electric cars require mining practices that harm poor people in foreign countries. But we don’t care about them so long as we’re green, right? http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/14/green-new-deal-exploit-poverty-stricken-people-across-globe/. The people are left poor as they risk their lives mining cobalt, nickel and lithium for the batteries to run these non-fossil fuel combusting engines that will power the Green New Deal. More of that rape and pillage, robber baron mentality of the 1800’s, only now it’s okay because it will keep the Western World green, and the poor nations poor.
Golly. I thought it was only those nasty old Republicans who used poor people in poor countries, endangering their lives and keeping them impoverished. Well, live and learn.
All this fiddling around with electric cars is nutso, they're wasteful and the batteries are ticking time bombs (ecologically).
The real deal is hydrogen fuel, either for a straight up combustion engine, or for powering an electric engine. Hyrdrogen created through solar power.... 100% sustainable and clean.
Hydrogen fuel cells were hyped up by big oil specifically to end electric car production. The oil companies knew hydrogen fuel cells were too far away and electric cars were right around the corner. Also the ecological impact of batteries is way less than combustion pollutants.
shareHyrdrogen fuel combusts with oxygen to create water vapor emissions.
The fuel is made by electrolysis of water to split it into hydrogen and oxygen (electrolysis powered by solar farms). These two can be retained together instead of releasing the oxygen into the atmosphere, so the engine can have both elements of its combustion already inside. Perhaps it will even capture the water vapor exhaust to go back to the electrolysis system.
Water to H and O, H and O back to water. It's a perfect cycle, it's 100% sustainable. It even solves the problem of how to store solar power for cloudy days and for evenings... You don't need molten salts or anything like that, just store some of the hydrogen fuel and use it to power generators when the sun is being shy.
The only downside is that hydrogen is very combustible and explosive, but that just means thicker metal in the tank and thicker fuel lines, as well as a way to protect it in an accident (gas tank built out of "black box" material, for example).
That power in the hydrogen is good for vehicles, though. It means less fuel needed to go places, engines with more torque, etc. There are hydrogen combustion vehicles out there already, I think most cars can be converted.
I only threw the hydrogen powered electric cells because it's there, but I was thinking more like a hybrid, with a hydrogen combustion engine generator that charges the battery.
The problem is hydrogen fuel cells are so far away that they are a pie in the sky. The idea was popularized by big oil to make people think it was better to focus on that idea instead of improving vehicles like the EV-1. Notice how hydrogen fuel cell technology hasn't progressed an inch over the last 15 years since Bush's initiative proposing it. Back then they were telling us all it was 20 years away. Complete bs. Its still 20 years away.
shareYeah, fuel cells are off the table.
But basic hydrogen engines, and hydrogen generators for solar power storage, can transform the world if widespread. I wish I was an Elon Musk type, I'd push it in the industry.
I imagine its because the price for hydrogen isn't cost effective enough to use it in a combustion engine. Gas engines are inefficient but gas makes up for it by being so cheap. And not completely sure but I believe any electric motor is going to require a fuel cell to convert the energy.
shareYeah the engines (or conversion cost) and the fuel must be pricy. I know in SoCal there are gas stations with hydrogen pumps for the few cars that use it, but I understand most of those customers are celebrities. I believe George Clooney may have one.
I'm not too into electric cars though, but Tesla managed to make that Roadster into the fastest car around. When done right, they exert full and immediate torque.
Regular batteries with a hybrid engine converted to hydrogen would work, and the power of hydrogen combustion could turn a very stiff generator that gasoline may not even be able to push.
[deleted]
The Federalist isn't alt-right. Don't use terms you don't understand.
If you hadn't been afraid of learning something, you might have been surprised to have seen that the sources for the story were often liberal-leaning, like the Washington Post and Amnesty International.
Using kids for cheap labor is always wrong no matter who does it but I don't see a problem with cheap labor in general as long as its not taking jobs away from Americans.
There are simple initiatives made all the time to not use kid labor from foreign countries. We simply say we won't pay you to hire kids and then they replace them with poor adults.
Now I don't exactly like it that Nike works poor people to the bone to make their shoes for mere pennies a day but I understand that without those factories those workers are much worse off. There are places in the world that just aren't easy to live in and Indonesia is one of them.
"wants to get rid of any fossil fuel combustible engine, which means all cars, buses, and planes"
Stop lying already, people on both sides are calling for alternative methods of powering up vehicles and planes and ships, not eliminating them, there are already millions of cars and thousands of buses and hundreds of trucks and ocean vessels as well as planes (there are already solar-powered planes) that already run on alternative energy. Wanting to change the method of fuel is not defined as "eliminate our cars!". Electric vehicles are all across the US and globe. Progressing technology is not defined as "Democrats want to take my sh!t away!"
"wants to get rid of any fossil fuel combustible engine, which means all cars, buses, and planes"So they're FOR fossil fuel combustible engines? I guess I should have added a couple of sentences making it plain (weird that others seemed to understand it) that cars, buses and planes would have to be replaced by some that were "green enough."
Stop lying already