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Charlie’s Angels Crew Member Shares What Really Happened in Lucy Liu, Bill Murray Conflict

posted 3 years ago by TMC-4 (20123)
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https://www.themarysue.com/charlies-angels-lucy-liu-bill-murray-crew-member-conflict/

Basically, Murray rewrote a bunch of scenes without telling anyone (including Drew who was a producer). He put the new pages in everyone’s trailers & everyone came to set wondering where the hell the new pages had come from. Murray was the last to step on stage and by that (1?)

(2?) time there was already mass confusion. McG (director) was pissed that no one had consulted him. The AD’s were also pissed. Drew’s producing partner came in and Murray was like, “what’s going on?” McG was like, “did you get new pages in your trailer?” And Murray was like,

(3?) “No. But I put new pages in everyone else’s trailer.” Drew and her partner were pretty upset by this. Murray was like, “I’m making it better, ok? You’ve got, like, 16 writers on this thing…” and Lucy spoke up, saying something like, “this is way out of line.” Murray turned

(4/?) and said, I don’t know what you’re complaining about. I have you more lines. I mean… look who you’re in with here. You’re TV… and this is the big league.” At that point Lucy shouted, “Fuck you, you fucking cocksucker!” And the AD’s promptly cleared the stage as Lucy ran

(5/?) off the stage crying. Cameron was trying to be the peacekeeper and protect Drew as the AD’s cleared the stage. Of course all of us in production had to stay inside to keep people out. I love Bill Murray (and had worked with him before), but what he said to her was totally

(6/6) uncalled for. Really belittling and shitty. This was pretty early in the process too, and the crew already really liked Lucy (and Cameron and Drew). Anyway. No punches were thrown. At least not physically. He later apologized though not entirely sincerely imho.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/olh0lo/charlies_angels_crew_member_shares_what_really/

[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

What a trash source article though.

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 3 years ago

To me on the outside looking in, it appears that Bill overstepped his boundaries. It's one thing to rewrite or adlib your own dialogue or your own character. But when you're not the screenwriter, but merely just a hired gun like an actor, you're asking for trouble when you just change everybody else's dialogue on a whim.

[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

Very true, I don't side with him at all on this matter. And frankly, I do feel like all this happened. I just didn't care for a lot of the other material that was in the article that complemented the story.

[–] Enigmaticocean77 (2412) 3 years ago

I call B.S. on this one. What probably happened was Bill was a credible big star and the rest weren't. What did anyone else who was in this film ever do that will be remembered over time. Drew has E.T, but she did that when she was five, and she was a supporting character. Cameron did There's something about Mary which still holds up fairly well, but aside from that what else did she do that will be remembered? Lucy... I'd never even heard of her until this movie came out. Bill took the gig for money and that was it. He rarely does sequels and he's an improvisor. He ad-libbed much of his best movies. Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters 2 (not nearly as good as the first, but it WAS funny) Stripes, What About Bob, Groundhog Day were all huge money makers in which Bill was free to improvise around the material. On the Ghostbusters DVD commentary Harold Ramis spoke at length about how Bill would do this in all his movies, that he was brilliant at knowing which jokes were keepers and which ones he could mess with to make better. I'd say that Drew, Cameron, Lucy and McG definitely were not use to, nor able to keep up with his approach. Overtime the Charlies Angels movies have shown to be some of the biggest piles of crap ever put to film. They aren't funny, none of the women look hot in it (which is strange because at the time they were all pretty outside of these films) and the films made the three of them look like idiots instead of the strong women that Farah, Jacklyn, Kate, Cheryl, Hack, and Roberts were in the original series. Truth be told the series from the 70s holds up better than the movies from the early 00s. That's not on Bill, it's on Drew, Cameron, Lucy and McG. They just weren't up to par when it came to the kind of acting and directing talent that Bill was use to working with.

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 3 years ago

This is Crazy Days & Nights' take on what supposedly really happened so take it with a grain of salt:

http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2019/MARCH.html

93. ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 03/07**#14**

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2019/03/todays-blind-items-story-behind-story.html

The Story Behind The Story: Everyone knows the story of why this permanent A list mostly movie actor who is an Academy Award winner/nominee wouldn't sign on for a sequel to a huge franchise from about a decade ago. He and one of the female co-leads hated each other. But why did they hate each other? Legend has it that he criticized her acting and she hated him after that. The real story is though he is a drunk and a mean drunk at that and a "get what I want" when I am drunk kind of guy and he would not stop hitting on her and making advances on her and trying to touch her and she wasn't having any of it and hated him for that. Because she said no to him so many times, he made it out to be the reason he couldn't stand her was because of her acting. That ticked off our actress who then beat the hell out of the actor. Bill Murray/Lucy Liu ("Charlie’s Angels") (Did Bill Murray Hate The Sh*t Out Of Lucy Liu On The Set Of "Charlie’s Angels"?) https://theplaylist.net/did-bill-murray-hate-shit-out-of-lucy-20080703/

[–] Jinx (3722) 3 years ago

'he would not stop hitting on her and making advances on her and trying to touch her and she wasn't having any of it and hated him for that. Because she said no to him so many times, he made it out to be the reason he couldn't stand her was because of her acting'

This scenario has played out a few times in my life unfortunately, you refuse someones advances when they are being obtrusive or making you uncomfortable and they they tell everyone that you're a bitch. It really sucks, so this sounds very believable to me.

[–] AckbarsRevenge (3800) 3 years ago

Just another bullshit story somebody pulled out of his ass

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 3 years ago

Lucy Liu Opened Up About Clashing with Bill Murray on the Charlie's Angels Set

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/lucy-liu-opened-clashing-bill-151916054.html

Lucy Liu is opening up about the rumors of her clash with Bill Murray on the set of Charlie's Angels.

After a crew member from the film detailed their own account of the long-rumored altercation between the actors earlier this month, the L.A. Times asked Liu about the confrontation.

Though the actress told the outlet, "I feel like some of those stories are private," she explained that the cast had a scene rehearsal that Murray was not part of because he had to attend a family gathering. Once he came back for the scene, she said, Murray began to "sort of hurl insults."

"I won't get into the specifics, but it kept going on and on," she said. "I was, like, 'Wow, he seems like he's looking straight at me.' I couldn't believe that [the comments] could be towards me, because what do I have to do with anything majorly important at that time? I literally do the look around my shoulder thing, like, who is he talking to behind me? I say, 'I'm so sorry. Are you talking to me?' And clearly he was, because then it started to become a one-on-one communication."

"Some of the language was inexcusable and unacceptable, and I was not going to just sit there and take it," she continued. "So, yes, I stood up for myself, and I don't regret it. Because no matter how low on the totem pole you may be or wherever you came from, there's no need to condescend or to put other people down. And I would not stand down, and nor should I have."

Earlier this month, a viral tweet alleging that Liu threw punches at Murray prompted Shaun O'Banion, who is listed as a production assistant on the film, to speak out. O'Banion said that "no punches were thrown," and that "I love Bill Murray (and had worked with him before), but what he said to her was totally uncalled for."

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 3 years ago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10062179/Drew-Barrymore-Bill-Murray-bad-mood-fight-Lucy-Liu-Charlies-Angels.html

On her eponymous talk show Tuesday, Barrymore shared recollections about making the film, which she also produced, and the bond she shares with co-stars Liu and Cameron Diaz, who remain close friends. It led to her revealing how she reached out to Liu in July after Liu confirmed the blowup in a Los Angeles Times interview.

"I did this whole video and sent it to her to back her up and she was like, ‘Nah, I don’t need it,'" Barrymore said of Liu.

Guest Danny Pellegrino asked what really happened during the disagreement and Barrymore said she'd "spill the tea."

"Bill was just in a — you know, comedians can be a little dark sometimes — and he just came in in a bad mood," she explained. "What you have to know is how much Lucy stood up for herself. That was the great thing that came out of an unfortunate circumstance. She literally said, ‘I do not accept that kind of behavior from you.’ And we all supported her and backed her up and we moved forward."

Pellegrino asked if Murray — who played Bosley to the trio of angels Natalie (Diaz), Dylan (Barrymore) and Alex (Liu) — was just acting out toward everyone or Liu specifically as it played out. She said it was "general," but then he "zeroed in on" Liu.

Barrymore went on to say, "I respected [Liu] then, I respect her now. I am proud of us as a team and a company that we didn’t tiptoe on the eggshells. We dealt with it right then and there, we were strong and we moved forward and we didn’t accept anything less moving forward."

Barrymore agreed that Liu was an action hero on screen in the film but a superhero in real life amid the drama.

"She really was," Barrymore said.

[–] liscarkat (18373) 3 years ago

So, not taking shit from an a-hole makes you a superhero? Cool, then I'm a superhero too!

[–] Lord Rake (4454) 3 years ago

This all sounds like a bunch of women "McG" included making big drama out of a joke. Oh, I'm standing up for myself and my girls got my back we are so strong.... "well excuse me ladies it's called a joke, try not to take it so seriously." But that interferes with our narrative.

And Murray should have rewritten the whole script those films were garbage. They even tried to remake them 10 years after they were made. Girl power, very forgettable.