Was Val really that difficult on movie sets?
I've read a few bad things, like him being a jerk to the director.. anybody here have stories?
shareI've read a few bad things, like him being a jerk to the director.. anybody here have stories?
shareThe negative stuff I read about came after his star credit rose up and he demanded more control over his own dialogue, which of course pisses off any director who is in charge of the movie's continuity. Other than that, he was pretty normal.
What I find weird about Val as an actor is that after he became more popular his performances became more flat and monolinguistic in his delivery. Compared to his charisma in the 80s his late 90s performances seemed uninspired like he was just going through the motions, and these are in movies that have pretty good stories.
I guess the ego did get out of control for awhile, there's that clip on youtube where they say Val Kilmer was rude to the Japanese fans during Val's Batman Forever press tour in Tokyo..and that he was fairly rude and condescending during filming of Island of Dr. Moreau.
I can certainly see how it happens, he's in bigger and bigger films..and the stress of trying to keep the quality of the work up increases.
Val is an interesting guy. I don't quite understand him and now it looks like he might be heading for the sunset. Hopefully not.
http://discussion.femalefirst.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=234248
Kilmer, Val. B_______. Reportedly very hard to work with; also rumored to have a problem with violence. Conceited, and unpleasant to his personal assistants. (Although, to be fair, I'm told that he has mellowed out considerably in the past couple of years and is no longer the enfant terrible of Hollywood legend.) Mooches food off of other people's plates. Linked with Cher, Cindy Crawford (merkin duty), Drew Barrymore, Darryl Hannah, Michelle Pfeiffer, Elizabeth Shue, Mira Sorvino, Joanne Whalley (he reportedly beat her), and Mare Winningham.share
If I remember correctly the Joanne Whalley beating came out during a messy divorce and child custody battle. When a woman makes this claim in that type of situation and just happens to have never made the allegations to the police prior to the divorce I tend to give it the same credibility I give for believing in the Easter Bunny.
shareJoanne Whalley amusingly played the nagging wife of Val's character in "Twixt" fourteen years after their divorce (when the flick was shot in 2010). Would Joanne do this if Val was really a heinous wife-beater?
shareLet’s talk about Val Kilmer:
https://www.quora.com/Who-are-some-actors-whose-personalities-got-in-the-way-of-their-talent/answer/Jason-Thibault
Very good insights BourbanKing
I loved his early stuff but alas he morphed into a lazy, bullying jackass
I miss his heyday when he was great
He was quite a nightmare on the set of Island of Dr. Moreau, according to a number of interviews I've seen. Drove the original director off the project.
shareVal Kilmer's hostile behavior on the movie set of The Island Of Dr. Moreau was legendary. Then he and Marlon Brando (another difficult actor) developed a hatred for each other and the movie was in a shambles. A film that was supposed to take 6 weeks to shoot took 6 months, with people coming and going. Then it turned out to be a flop at the box office.
If you go on Wikipedia,and read about The Island of doctor Moreau it explains how difficult he was on set.
shareThere are numerous accounts of him being one of the rudest celebrities out there. The icing on the cake was when he full on slapped an actress during a rehearsal. He shook her, threw her to the ground while Oliver Stone laughed. She filed a police report and was compensated by the studio.
https://jezebel.com/caitlin-oheaney-breaks-nda-to-publicly-allege-that-val-1819825864
The headlines in many of these articles claim he punched her in the face, but the actual quote mentions nothing about being punched or hit and just says "Val Kilmer picked me up and shaked me, throwing me down to the floor".
shareVal Kilmer also got kicked off of the Batman franchise after only one movie for being a colossal dickhead. Joel Schumacher, the director told Val to stop being disrespectful to the crew and Val (instead of apologizing) refused to speak to him (or hid in his trailer) for the rest of the shoot. Val claimed that he wasn't brought back because he was he had booked another movie (The Saint) and nobody told him that they were fast-tracking the next Batman movie into production.
shareHad to laugh about him on the set of The Red Planet, he went in the huff because Tom Sizemore had an exercise bike and he didn't so refused to come out of his trailer and then not speak to Sizemore for the rest of the shoot. He'd be a pain in the arse for a director but I think he's just one of life's great eccentrics.
sharehttps://www.nickiswift.com/131309/stars-with-really-bad-tempers/
Val Kilmer may have helped Batman Forever gross a whopping $184 million, but that kind of success may have come at a price for the cast and crew who had to work with him. Hollywood has been plagued with talk of Kilmer's temper tantrums since the '90s, and few have a reputation as notorious.share
According to Entertainment Weekly, Batman Forever director Joel Schumacher claimed the star was "childish and impossible." Schumacher also revealed to The Hollywood Reporter that the star ditched the series last minute for The Island of Dr. Moreau because it starred Marlon Brando.
Unfortunately, things didn't fair better for Kilmer on the set of his Brando blockbuster. Director Richard Stanley, who lasted three days before getting fired, claimed arguments would happen when Kilmer showed up on set. Stanley's replacement, director John Frankenheimer, also bluntly told EW, "I don't like Val Kilmer, I don't like his work ethic, and I don't want to be associated with him ever again."
After years of rumors surrounding Kilmer's notorious attitude, the star took to Reddit to almost apologize. He claimed his bad rap was because he "didn't do enough hand holding and flattering and reassuring to the financiers." He added, "I only cared about the acting and that didn't translate to caring about the film or all that money. … I was often unhappy trying to make pictures better." If you want it straight, Kilmer's your guy.
"...I was often unhappy trying to make pictures better..."
Well there's your problem!
If this guy thought he knew more about making pictures better than the director, writers, cinematographers, editors, and other professionals, no wonder he got a bad rap. Nobody likes a knowitall, or someone who tries to tell you how to do your job. Or who won't come out of his trailer if he doesnt get his way. Or who doesnt realize he's an asshole, and who thinks the real problem was financier ass.
Still, I won't hold anything he did on "Doctor Moreau" again him, apparently that set was such a nightmare that some people still think there was a real curse on the production.
To be fair, Steve Martin wrote in his book "Born Standing Up" that director John Frankenheimer stole his first true love when she went off to Europe to make a film that Frankenheimer was directing. Then, over 20 years later Frankenheimer tried to make a move on his then wife, Victoria Tennant.
I quote Steve Martin: "I've heard recently that John Franheimer has died, thou it was not I who killed him".
I've read he refused to even come out of his trailer until his lines were rewritten the way he wanted them. And stuff like refusing to take direction when the director wanted a different take. He'd just keep doing it his way. And things like him choosing his own wardrobe regardless of what the scene demanded. Never read about him fighting anybody or anything, or having Christian Bale type meltdowns. Just being so difficult in a stubborn kind of way that people would quit rather than deal with his ass.
shareI met him once in Vancouver. Shooting the film The Traveler. He is very strange and have no idea how to operate an iPad or laptop. However he did not have any diva requests or requirements. He worked for very little money on that picture.
JUST DONT GET BETWEEN HIM AND THE CRAFT SERVICE TABLE!
shareI hear he is an asshole to all the production staff and ladies on the set
shareThe new documentary "Val" (2021) has his own video taping of production on The Island of Dr. Moreau, with veteran director John Frankenheimer(hired to finish the film after the other director was fired, and evidently regretting his decision) telling Kilmer to "turn that video camera off" and Kilmer refusing to do so and stating his case why.
Its like a record of Kilmer's behavior. You can pick a side, but he sounds pretty jerky to me on it.