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Blacks and Native-Americans are the MOST persecuted people in the United States.


White people committed genocide and rape against Native-American people and then stole their land. Nothing much has changed.

White people created thousands of laws and policies as well as white supremacy to justify enslaving, lynching, raping, discriminating, torturing, and marginalizing black people which continues today with the banning of history books and celebration of slavery with Confederacy state holidays.

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Blacks and natives benefit massively from the technological strides made by Europeans. Those cannibalistic, incestuous natives were doing SO much with the country before whites arrived, eh? 🙄

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^this^

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You can't prove that our white way of life is superior to their's, other than under your stupid Christian religion, which you can never ever prove is true. If you ever even could, then a man can become a woman! 🤣🤣🤣.

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Strawman. I'm not religious at all.

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Well, if you pull your stupid, atheist head out of your ass, look what's happened to South Africa.

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"were doing SO much with the country"

well , keeping it free of plastic , oil spills , smog , nuclear bomb tests , litter , old tires ....

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By-products of ingenuity. You don't get your computer, smartphone and big TV without those strides.

There are still primitive, isolated tribes out there who eat each other. By all means, go visit one.

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The point is advanced peoples with big TVs shouldnt be visiting , much less stealing, less advanced countries .

Why cant they stay in their own country ?
because the populations expanding ?
well they should get that shit under control if theyre so advanced , cos theres only so much land to steal and plunder.

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Think about this- you bitch about all of those things, but you are using and benefiting from all of those things...

If you believe what you preach then you need to give up all of the things that you are complaining about. If you don't, then you are a hypocrite.

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I'm not saying that nobody should have a big TV or a pickup truck,
I'm saying thats not a reason to invade another country and steal it

The comment that started my interaction with this thread was
"well they wernt doing much with the country"
as a justification for colonization and stealing the land.

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Some "native Americans" were still living in the stone age as recently as the early 20th century. There are still blacks in Africa living in the stone age. I suppose all the ones enjoying modern living in the U.S. today would prefer to be wearing animal skins and sleeping on the ground in a hut. That actually sounds like it could be fun, for about two days.

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That’s true.

If blacks hadn’t sold other blacks into slavery those other blacks wouldn’t have come to America and other countries.

A vast majority of them would still be in Africa living in poverty and dying at each others’ hands.

Just like they are here.

But they’d be living in worse poverty and more of them would be dying at the hands of other blacks more often.

And they’d have little technology.

And no fat-ass white and Hispanic chicks to bang.

No rap.

No bling.

No drug revenue.

Sorry, what are they complaining about then?

Why do they feel they need reparations?

For our saving them from an even more horrific existence?

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Slavery of black people in North America ended 160 years ago. No living person, or even their great grandparents, owned a slave or was a slave.

The last battle with American Indians was well over a century ago. No one alive today, or even their parents, had anything to do with it.

Government, public schooling, higher education, media, and society in general bend over backward until they look like pretzels to accommodate, assist, tolerate, promote, and celebrate blacks and American Indians. It takes effort for a black or Indian person to fail.

Get over it and grow up.

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You may think we are making strides as a nation, but then here comes some bakery that didn't like her political views, so they refused her service. In fact today at 5pm on MSNBC, Rev Al Sharpton will have the complete details about this story

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Amen.

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Slavery never ended! Reread that amendment!

Natives still being persecuted today by whites. You're still illegal.

Whites need to pay for the stolen land and back wages.

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"Whites need to pay for the stolen land and back wages."

FK you and FK off.

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>The last battle with American Indians was well over a century ago.

Exactly.

We won.

The superior force prevailed.

We got the spoils.

Get over it.

I don’t hear Britain talking about giving reparations to the countries they conquered.

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The only persecution of my people today comes from white liberals who are using us a voting bloc by convincing too many of us that we are persecuted. Nice job Keelia. How does it feel to persecute people?

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Electoral College = Republican election fraud

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The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain.

I think I've got it.

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"Electoral College = Republican election fraud"

Guess its a good thing they won the popular vote as well.

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Proof?

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I can feel your pain, Keelai. It must be really tough to be half native American and half black. You've got to look over your shoulder all the time to make sure a white man is not chasing you.

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That is not true.

I'm part NA and thought it would be interesting to research their history.

Many NA tribes were insanely brutal to each other and just as bad to Europeans when they showed up. Currently, NAs on reservations continue to be horrible to each other.

Also, NAs numbered at about four million in the entirety of North America. So, the US was pretty much empty when Europeans got here. However, many NA tribes they thought they owned vast amounts of land they did nothing with so they would murder Europeans on land the NAs did nothing with.

They picked the wrong people to treat like that and the end result was massive generalized destruction.

Europeans didn't show up and decide to kill a bunch of nice people.

About blacks, it was only rich people who owned slaves.

Could you own a slave now?

I couldn't because I can only take care of myself and that's the way it was back then.

Meanwhile, when slavery ended average people inherited a population of people who had no clue how to live on their own and were out of control. They didn't like that and reacted against blacks and we are still having issues today.

Again, people don't have zero reasons for acting negatively.

For instance, white people don't have positive or negative reactions to people from Bangladesh. That's because they have no experience with positive or negative cultural situations.

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Not true about Native or Black history. Your "history" has an extreme Eurocentric bias. You didn't learn about the contributions of the Iroquois Confederacy to democracy, Constitution and infrastructure? Or their contribution to medicine and agriculture? Or their architecture and civilizations?

Europeans were malnourished and very short from malnutrition when they arrived because European monarchs and nobility kept wealth for themselves while starving and overworking the masses. Natives were more egalitarian and democratic sharing their resources.

The first Europeans traded with Natives on the East coast for years. European diseases wiped out entire Native populations on the East coast leaving them vulnerable. Europeans either lived in depopulated Native villages or asked Natives for help in order to survive.

They weren't farmers and the Jamestown population resorted to cannibalism because they were starving.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/starving-settlers-in-jamestown-colony-resorted-to-cannibalism-46000815/

Slavery never ended in the U.S.. I bet you don't know that.

White people had laws preventing Asians from immigrating to the U.S. and becoming citizens. Bangladesh until recently was a part of India. Indians were historically treated like garbage by white people. What do you know of India's colonialism by the British and Gandhi's protest movement?

Which history books did you read?

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I have read countless books on the topic.

The best accounts are not books but first hand documents written by people of events that happened to them.

Such documents aren't sanitized and are much better than history books. In addition, you can find such documents written by Native Americans explaining their thoughts on the topic.

Meanwhile, the situations you expressed are individual incidents. It's like saying Native Americans were good at making shoes and somehow that discounts the massive violence and bizarre beliefs they had about other people.

It doesn't.

Also, what one tribe did that was positive means nothing about the whole history and behavior or NAs collectively.

It's like saying Amish people in PA don't believe in technology or war as a way to deal with the entire West being obsessed with technology and war. Exceptions do not disprove rules.

If you are actually inclined to read, then research documents like I described. There's plenty online and free to read.

Look up "Native American Torture Rituals" for instance.

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Mental illness.

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Thinking you know what you are talking about when you know nothing and researched nothing is mental illness.

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That actually describes OP perfectly.

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Fact is, Donald Trump is the most persecuted person in America and he's white.

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I'm not a Trump supporter or a Republican but you are correct.

It's heinous.

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Yeah , we know, but why posting this on the Whoopi Goldberg board? Shouldn't we be talking about Whoopi Goldberg??

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It's about time the mods banned the racist POS OP.

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