they used to have 2-3 good shows every year. they were practically the only good tv shows out there. what the fuck happened to them? they had the perfect system, the perfect executives that greenlit these shows. now all they've been making is dogshit. there hasnt been anything good to watch on any network for the last 2 years.
what im saying is how could they have been so dumb to let this happen? they had the perfect system. all they had to do was leave it alone and let them cook. this is like if tim cook took over and fired everyone jobs put in charge. it would've been a disaster.
HBO also used to be run by not-a-moron every year, too. Once a distinct semi-independently operating brand, now it exists as a cannibalized arm of a media conglomerate to farm streaming media.
both shows are dog shit. i cant believe penguin is supposedly well loved. i couldnt even get through ep 1. it's just another comic movie and it's almost exactly like gotham. how many times can we see the same story and still like it? people seem to forget that a large part of what makes a story good is the mystery. there's only so much acting and directing can take it. when you watch a remake, it simply cant be that good because you already know the story. as for last of us, that shit was boring as hell. the girl was so annoying.
no, my tastes arent eclectic. i just have extremely high standards due to having watched too many. however, in this case, both shows are boring and i explained why too. for comparison, a good comic show was punisher.
Yeah, you said you're tired of the DC Universe. You didn't give any specific criticisms. I don't care for Gotham or Batman or the DC Universe, but it is highly-rated by audiences and critics. Why do you think this is?
All you said about TLOU was boring and "girl was annoying". It's still highly rated.
Point of order for both of you: eclectic means broad, varied and would generally be considered a good thing. I suspect you mean eccentric... which I'd also consider to be a good thing... Anyway, as you were....
lol i never once looked up the word. i always learned it from context clues. it was always about how someone's furniture combination was weird. now that you told us the meaning, i finally understood what it was really about. the person's tastes are wide and that's why they have a mishmash of decor styles.
The Last of Us is mediocre and unoriginal, though competently made, a solid 6.5/10. I can't speak for The Penguin, as it isn't something I would watch. I can't say exactly what happened to HBO, but it seems to have happened to all the streamers and movie studios. HBO is in some ways still a bright spot with Succession and The White Lotus.
i didnt want to delve into it because it'll steer this discussion but the reason last of us sucked was because it was written to appeal to women. i don't know how the game's story was, i did play it but forgot the story. it seems to me in the show, it's written so that women are in charge and are the ones with the most physical action. joel is just a fucking male prop. on top of it, the girl's constant swearing and annoying attitude made it irritating to watch. usually these are side characters, not the central character. basically last of us is woke trash. yea succession and white lotus were good but they were probably developed before the current era. succession was only good for like 2 seasons though. the last few could've been written by anyone. as for penguin, i mean it could've been good if i kept watching and let it pull me in but it can never be that good because i already know the story.
> it seems to me in the show, it's written so that women are in charge and are the ones with the most physical action. joel is just a fucking male prop. on top of it, the girl's constant swearing and annoying attitude made it irritating to watch.
I don't get how you conclude this at all. The only prominent woman in the show is Ellie, and she's not exactly "in charge".
I thought again, it was "good" - not amazing, but clearly I'm in the minority here.
havent seen it in a while but there's basically only one man in the show who isnt a villain and it's joel. off the top of my head, joel's friend is some resistance boss. the other resistance boss that attacks them later is also a woman.
Joel's friend is in that commune and he doesn't do anything evil. I wouldn't call Nick Offerman's character evil either. A black woman is one of the 'evil' people who Joel directly kills for trying to experiment on Ellie at the end of the season.
Didn’t they also make everyone watch two fat bearded guys kiss, suck and fuck? From what I heard Last Of Us was extreme woke propaganda disguised as a popular video game adaptation 🤢
Do you consider heterosexual sex scenes in TV shows and films a form of "propaganda"? There was a single episode that focused on a gay male survivalist who found someone after the apocalypse.
>From what I heard Last Of Us was extreme woke propaganda disguised as a popular video game adaptation 🤢
How was it "woke propaganda"? Because it positively portrayed a homosexual relationship?
The Last of Us is and was a highly rated TV series, and broke HBO viewing records.
>Straight people don’t like seeing fat bearded guys kissing, sucking and fucking
I don't "like" or care either. But I don't object to the existence of gay people in TV or film.
Also, can you explain why The Last of US viewing ratings did not take a big hit after that episode please. If straight people are so repulsed by an episode of TV that focuses on a gay person, why didn't people all turn it off out of protest?
>nor having their kids viewing such things.
Dude, The Last of Us is NOT a kids TV show anyway. And I assume most people object to kids viewing any form of sexual content straight or not.
>You wouldn’t know.
"Haha, anyone who is a liberal/leftist/progressive is gay" from you again.
Oh it’s true - you’re an insatiable gay stalker who uses this site as your own personal Grinder, and you’re fiercely loyal to Skavau - always ready to swoop in and rescue him when he’s getting called out, as you’re attempting here.
NOPE...IN FACT...JUST FOR YOU...SKAVAU CAN KISS MY BIG GAY ASS....SEE?....NOW...AS IRRITATING AS SKAVAU CAN BE AT TIMES WITH THEIR MACHINE GUN POST STYLE....THEY DO ACTUALLY RESPOND TO PEOPLE...YOU PURPOSEFULLY IGNORE THE ALMOST EVERYTHING PEOPLE POST TO YOU.
You were talking about ramming your tongue down my throat a couple of weeks ago. These threads can go off on tangents, with you the tangent quite regularly is gay sex.
You better get off your backside and vote red. If blue wins anyone who doesn't suck a dick and kill a baby will be deemed unfit for society and sent off to a re-education camp.
You were talking about ramming your tongue down my throat a couple of weeks ago. These threads can go off on tangents, with you the tangent quite regularly is gay sex.
Looks like you got rumbled again Kowalski.
Amazes me how creatures like you and Skavau deny your obvious and repetitive creepy behaviour when you’ve left thousands of receipts all over the site.
It’s as if you Leftoids imagine that normal people are as credulous as you obviously are 🤣
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What "creepy" behaviour have I exhibited on site, exactly?
You're the poster with an unhealthy and absurd obsession with speculating about the sexuality of people you don't like on here. That's way creepier than anything I've ever done on here.
Oh yeah we’ll just take your word that you’re ’not gay’ over thousands of posts of vivid homoerotic imagery and aggressive flirtation with men across this site for years 🤣
A few anonymous internet maggots know nothing about you, whereas your years of constant aggressive flirtation with men and hardcore homoerotic imagery speak volumes.
these people are just intellectually dishonest. arguing from viewpoints they know are lies just so they can rewrite the narrative as if if nobody can speak the truth, then the truth is only that which is spoken. showing straight people is propaganda? that's the fucking default. anything deviating from it IS propaganda because it's tryign to change the default state. he knows that. if i said this on reddit i would get banned instantly.
It’s all there for everyone to see, go look at your posting history if you’ve forgotten, be damned if I’m gonna waste a second on you unless I feel like it 🤷🏻♂️🤣
You keep replying to me. It's not my fault that you devote your life to following me around. All I do is reply to your baseless attacks and claims against me.
This has nothing to do with my self-image. It has everything to do with your own behaviour. You really do seem to spend your life following me around. It's clear in your own posting history, as you're keen to say to me. Almost all of your comments in the last 24 hours or more concern me.
You have a deeply disturbed and creepy obsession with me.
Criticising your creepy, and obsessive and downright unwell behaviour is not "self-noshing". It's curious how you can't seem to handle any criticism about your own conduct and shut down when challenged on this.
So you're back to this cut and paste crap because you're unable to back up your baseless slanderous claims.
The utter obsession you have with me is truly and utterly unbelievable. I've encountered many a trolls in my time online, but none of them have been so utterly devoted like you are.
So as usual, too stupid to actually have any self-reflection about your own conduct. Continued Scientology-style bullbaiting: "attack, attack, attack". Never defend.
now that you mentioned that, i think i did see that. i skipped around a lot in this show because there was tons of boring woke shit. i just watched a clip on youtube and now i remember. they had a whole episode on those two gay guys. i skipped around a lot waiting for that story to pass but it lasted the whole episode.
What "boring woke shit" specifically was in The Last of Us?
>i just watched a clip on youtube and now i remember. they had a whole episode on those two gay guys. i skipped around a lot waiting for that story to pass but it lasted the whole episode.
They did. Are you suggesting that any positive portrayal of homosexual couples constitutes "woke"?
penguin is boring. i couldnt finish ep1. i think the most recent hbo show that's still good is white lotus. i think that show was in development before this new era though, it just aired in the new era but shows take years air.
edit: i forgot to comment on curb. i thought curb's first 4 seasons were funny when it aired but it was extremely dry. watching it again like 20 years later, it's too dry and the actors were too green. they haven't found their grove yet. by the later seasons with leon, it was insanely funny. so i'd say the latter seasons were better... all the way up to their hiatus. then once they came back, the show is a shell of its former self. it's like the actors are not mimicking themselves. it's so unnatural. it's just like how when you were a kid and you did some weird activity with friends and it was insanely fun. so you do it again later and somehow it just isn't and feels like you're pretending to have fun.
i don't think it's due to streaming. something happened to the hiring process of writers. they're just terrible writers now. it might be related to all the woke shit we see now. the same people who put in woke shit are the same people who probably got hired because of DEI and not talent.
HBO has diminished due to increased competition from the streamers, and being taken over by a guy who loves reality TV a lot. There's a lot of well-written modern TV series post 2019.
fallout: didn't bother. it looked like yet another boring formulaic woke trash action adventure.
shogun: just another white savior fantasy. i couldnt even stomach ep 1. you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. are you like fucking blind? ep 1, for some reason the japanese hired a spanish guy to captain his boat. really? i mean the japanese couldnt sail around the globe but they sure as fuck knew how to sail around their country. then the white guy runs around screaming at the japanese to row. he save them and shit. give me a break. shit made me want to throw the fuck up. it's disgusting how much american media raved about that show.
the gentlemen: i've always hated guy ritchie movies. everyone always acts too cool for school in them. it's annoying. i did watch a few eps of the show too, hated it.
one day: havent heard of it, maybe i'll try it. rom coms arent really doing it for me nowadays. honestly, after i began dating a lot, rom coms never gave me a dopamine hit again. i used to love kdrama like 10 years ago.
dark matter: soooo boring. it's like a shitty version of sliders. i gave it a good try too. saw like 70% of season 1 or something.
ted: havent seen it but saw a bit of the movie. it's not really my type of show anymore so i'm not gonna say it sucks. i should only rate genres i like.
nobody wants this: same situation
silo: woke trash. men are just props for a female hero. even if this wasnt the case, the story was boring anyway.
shrinking: i think i saw 1 ep of it and thought it was boring. i don't remember too well.
slow horses: boring too.
the bear: quite good if you could skip around and only watch the good parts. the family dinner in season 2 was a masterful work. it could've been a movie by itself. overall, the show is too melodramatic to be taken seriously. i would watch season 3.
reacher: fucking boring.
from: due to personal tragedy, i can't watch horrors anymore. i did watch like 1-2 eps of it and they were good.
>>fallout: didn't bother. it looked like yet another boring formulaic woke trash action adventure.
Then that's your problem. You dismissed it without trying. It is highly rated.
>shogun: just another white savior fantasy. i couldnt even stomach ep 1. you should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing it up. are you like fucking blind? ep 1, for some reason the japanese hired a spanish guy to captain his boat. really? i mean the japanese couldnt sail around the globe but they sure as fuck knew how to sail around their country. then the white guy runs around screaming at the japanese to row. he save them and shit. give me a break. shit made me want to throw the fuck up. it's disgusting how much american media raved about that show.
Calling Shogun "white saviour fantasy" is a pretty woke viewpoint my dude. Pretty ironic.
It's also loosely based on actual historical events.
>the gentlemen: i've always hated guy ritchie movies. everyone always acts too cool for school in them. it's annoying. i did watch a few eps of the show too, hated it.
It's highly rated as a good comedy.
>dark matter: soooo boring. it's like a shitty version of sliders. i gave it a good try too. saw like 70% of season 1 or something.
It's highly rated.
>silo: woke trash. men are just props for a female hero. even if this wasnt the case, the story was boring anyway.
How are they "props" for a female hero? Are you suggesting that any show that has a heroic or good female lead is in itself innately "woke"?
>slow horses: boring too.
At this point, this is very much an "Am I out of touch?" situation for you.
You're basically saying the world is wrong and you are right.
>from: due to personal tragedy, i can't watch horrors anymore. i did watch like 1-2 eps of it and they were good.
This is kinda your problem then, isn't it? Not being dismissive, but this is a wide amount of stuff you're unable to watch.
it seems your only points are highly rated highly rated. you don't have your own opinions?
"This is kinda your problem then, isn't it? Not being dismissive, but this is a wide amount of stuff you're unable to watch."
you had one horror show on your list. can you stop saying stupid and inane shit just to win an argument? this isnt wide. you had one good horror show on this list.
as for shogun, it doesnt matter if it's based on a true story. the way they depicted it is fucking racist. do you even know what the fuck woke means? woke means bullshit. how is calling out an actual racist portrayal, woke? this white asshole goes to japan and is so knowledgeable and saves these japanese. fuck that shit. that scene made me want to throw the fuck up. if you watched it and can't even see that, then fuck you. you're blind and biased. i'm not exaggerating one bit. explain to me how it is that the japanese didnt know how to sail through a wave and the only two people on the ship that knows is the two white assholes? does that actually make sense to you? is that historical? how did these japanese survive before these two white assholes showed up? fuck you for even making me explain this to you.
>it seems your only points are highly rated highly rated. you don't have your own opinions?
Oh, I do - but we're talking in terms of objective assessment.
I don't care for Breaking Bad, for instance. I just don't like Gangster stuff. But it is objectively well-rated. My personal disinterest doesn't change that.
>you had one horror show on your list. can you stop saying stupid and inane shit just to win an argument? this isnt wide. you had one good horror show on this list.
I think I only had one Horror show on my list. There are many other Horror shows.
>as for shogun, it doesnt matter if it's based on a true story. the way they depicted it is fucking racist. do you even know what the fuck woke means? woke means bullshit. how is calling out an actual racist portrayal, woke?
Calling something "white saviour" is pretty woke. It's also just not remotely seen as that. At all. Not even progressive grifters call Shogun 'white saviour' content.
>this white asshole goes to japan and is so knowledgeable and saves these japanese.
He spent the entire season being manipulated by Toranaga.
>that scene made me want to throw the fuck up.
Pretty snowflakey.
>explain to me how it is that the japanese didnt know how to sail through a wave and the only two people on the ship that knows is the two white assholes? does that actually make sense to you? is that historical? how did these japanese survive before these two white assholes showed up? fuck you for even making me explain this to you.
These scenes were primarily just to show Toranaga that he had great value to them as more than just a superficial prop. He was still used afterwards as a puppet by Toranaga for his political ambitions.
Also the other ship was primarily staffed by the Portuguese. It was a Portuguese ship. You present it as if both John Blackthorne and Rodriguez were commanding two Japanese crews.
mayor of kingstown: decent characters and acting. story is just too unrealistic, i couldnt stand it. if the story was a bit more realistic, it would've been a highly watchable show.
andor: i tried liking this show sooooo much because everyone raves about it. i literally tried watching it 3 different times. it's always too boring. i generally dislike the star wars universe to begin with other than the original 3 movies. all the star wars movies just seems so childish, like it's only for nerds. although i'm a nerd myself.
severance: it was very good.
i didnt say good shows didn't exist, it's just they're so rare now. i hope my reviews didn't annoy you too much. the point is hbo had 1-2 really good shows every year for like 20 years straight.
It's not mine either, but you cannot deny its reputation.
>andor: i tried liking this show sooooo much because everyone raves about it. i literally tried watching it 3 different times. it's always too boring. i generally dislike the star wars universe to begin with other than the original 3 movies. all the star wars movies just seems so childish, like it's only for nerds. although i'm a nerd myself.
Again, it's still highly rated. You are clearly absurdly picky.
" It's not mine either, but you cannot deny its reputation."
wtf? what reputation? it's a gay show. the only time a gay anything was ever famous was brokeback mountain. i've never even heard of this gay show. you are probably right about me being picky but i liked most of the old hbo shows. so maybe my standards are just high.
Can you name me what "gay cinema" I've ever tried to push on someone?
I'm just noting that Heartstopper is a highly acclaimed show. He obviously doesn't want to watch it. Neither do I, but if we're just listing off highly-rated shows, it has to be there amongst many others.
skavau, stop it. no gay show is ever gonna be popular. there simply isnt enough gay people to watch it to make it popular. homosexuality just grosses out straight people. it literally has to otherwise they'll be gay too and the genetic line ends. brokeback was an exception. as for "critics," they're all woke trash nowadays. only an idiot gives two shits about critics' opinions.
i really do think that's what's happening for real. then of course like a gay come on in real life, when rebuffed, they'll proceed to say "i'm not gay too."
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>It's not mine either, but you cannot deny its reputation.
This doesn't make any sense. Apparently a "hatchling question" is, according to you, literally just any question ever. Yet the original concept of a "hatchling question", according to that Youtube video is any question that implicitly queries or denies something obvious or self-evident. Yet you use it to just describe any question I might ask.
Yes. It's simply not a straw question. That's what he did. He suggested I was gay. I'm asking him how he claims to know this. He knows nothing about me.
i really liked succession but it was only a stellar show in season 1-2. it was only watchable later. however, succession was developed years ago and that's why it's still good into this era. none of the shows coming out in 2024 are of the same caliber.
money's all gone. hbo is no longer a prestige pay cable channel. HBO bought sold and bundled with endless cooperate mergers. all focus put forward into their garbage streaming service. and streaming services in general stealing their once captive audience. it ain't ever coming back. the name "HBO" become so meaningless they dumped it for "MAX"hardcore. HBO is dead and they deserve it for cancelling Carnivale.
lol come on. carnivale got stale. i dont think i've ever disagreed with an executive decision to cancel a show before. those shows were always going downhill and they probably saw what next season's script was gonna be.