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Prisoners in prison SHOULD learn to get along or at least have respectable boundaries.


Won't go into any too gruesome or ultra disturbing or tasteless details and let's try and be respectable but... Yeah, its all about empathy also even between guilty individuals but having said that...

In those establishments, people shouldn't attack others for any reason. And also, when they do, do they REALLY do it because they somehow gain some kind of "morality" or is it all done in actuality for very SELFISH reasons, and by individuals who may even be mentally gone in some way, and not because they "have" to? I won't mention examples, use imagination, it doesn't help that on the INTERNET, these sorts of things have become sadly or factually well known.

Also. I myself also dislike or even despise certain individuals. But so far, I haven't attacked, crippled, killed (even) ANY of them in real life because "I do not like them" and yet in prison we hear of those things happening exactly like that and for those lines. What, do you think, is the difference between someone like me here and those in those lock ups being or doing those things?

Also, I myself would never kill or you know what or even physically attack intentionally anyone like that for reasons even beyond "not wanting" to go to prison. But let's say I DID end up in one for any OTHER reason beyond obviously well known "don't do that" type of laws, will I be treated fairly and normally even if I am NOT in well known Scandinavian "nicer" examples as such and would people there NOT MAKE me lose fate and faith in life?

And what about say females in female establishments as such? And will they manage? Also, is it bad not to speak too ill of them AND not wish them say bad things ACTIVELY and on a semi-personal way, like you know, its not just "if they are innocent..." mantras? And in some films like that 00s notorious romantic black comedy where a female culprit gets away also legally and the guy chooses not to report her, well... Even in that cinematic universe, is it bad and whatnot, and also, did he not do it because he didn't want (use your imagination) even as a victimized good guy in that movie, as one example?

And we hear often of RIDICULOUS things (in Russian prisons, FORBIDDEN to say "thank you") happening that makes us REALLY question it all and seek reforms... But WILL it be done, besides the fact that it SHOULD?

What do we think, thanks.

P.S. Even if we do OR don't agree, is there a logical explanation to it all? Or is it in lots of cases non-sense and the proverbial examples of how "crappy" humans can be etc?

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Cheers.

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Uh, TheMan18, one reason these people are locked up like that is because they didn't know how to get along with others and respect other people's boundaries, and frankly, many are too stupid or messed up in the head to learn anything in prison other than plot ways to get out, and do what the guards say, or else.

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Violent criminals in particular should NEVER be let out. A person that commits arson on an occupied dwelling, rape or intentional murder is not a person fit to breath fresh air ever again with the rest of us.

A ‘life sentence’ should mean LIFE.
Walk them in and carry them out.

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Please,

Don't join team sports, the military, or end up in prison.

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They are imprisoned because they don’t understand or care about boundaries.

As a consequence most of us don’t care about them.

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I suspect you cannot learn to have empathy, you are born with a certain amount and at best you can maybe fake it... I believe this is what sociopaths do. Perhaps this is like telling someone to try harder to be taller.

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You can definitely suppress empathy. Insecurity is a bitch. I used to have absolutely no regard for others, I treated friends as a means to an end, and dated 2 or more girls from 6th grade until 11th grade. I started fights on the first day every time I changed schools, and tried to break their nose to send a message I wasn't to be messed with. But, I feel that was taught as how to seem "cool" or something. I also remember in 4th or 5th grade, buying a mouse from a pet store with the intention of stuffing it in a bottle and breaking it, but started crying for reasons I couldn't understand when it came time to do it, ended up keeping it and it turned out to be pregnant, and my mom sold the babies back to the pet shop. So, I always had it.

The sole thing that changed my perspective was when I saw the movie A Walk to Remember, that was the movie that gave me permission to not be "cool" or follow the crowd. My friend brought it over and I thought it was pretty deep, then for some reason he left it at my house and I watched it again and again, ended up copying it to a VHS tape, I must have watched that shit 10 or 20 times, until I completely absorbed it into my soul. Ironically, this was the same friend I lost to prison. I knew him since like 3rd grade, saw him as family. He went to jail and came back more or less the same person. He was always very level-headed and responsible. But then he got caught walking with an open beer and went to actual prison, he was never the same after that. It was like he lost the ability to evaluate his own actions. He became a complete gaslighter and user. We stopped being friends after he tried to press me and I punched him square in the chin as hard as I could. I thought he didn't want to fight anymore after that hit, but he came back and we fought a little... then he called the cops on me and tried to get me locked up for assault.

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