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sometimes, I see things in life, but they are not there, then I look deeper, but not deep enough


so, as with life as with Lifesavers candy, things are sweet but sour and and yet refreshing while being dark and sour while being everything and nothing it could be.
Sometimes, that cat is both alive and dead while at the same time I am fat, yet thin, thinking deeply about the nonesense of intelligence and ubiquiti of quantative personal reflection, I feel that feeling gives me the feels of feeling, yet lacking the sedimentarianism of the emptiness from taking a big dump wherein the existentialism of reality wholely fulfills the perceived emptiness of not existing.
Yet, with this, I think there must be gold in Nebraska, and perhaps a greater being controlling us all, like a giant crane machine in the night, dropping prizes down the chute of life, allowing some to become while others bego.
I stink, therefore, I am.
You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And weather you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back.

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That wasn't my intention honestly at all. ALSO, I sort of wished that in these types of scenarios, people could gather together and explain themselves POLITELY and KINDLY without any type of hyperbole, hysteria, personal even defense attacks or unnecessary suspicions.

Besides, how do I or others for that matter know by heart "what real rapists" etc ACTUALLY sound like? For all I know personally, most of those individuals DON'T CARE too much about their actions and they don't philosophize, even in this day and age, with good intentions and desire to even UNINTENTIONALLY avoid certain deeds, by accident etc, that could be including LEGALLY classified as it, and even if my views may have something in common with some of them? Well, we're all humans. And besides, how often in real life do you hear of cases where the guilty perpetrator here is not a man but a young possibly even teenage chick who also happens to be attractive?

Also, it may or may not ultimately be it, although we can (and many DID) discuss levels and gradations there but...

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That scene from "Nymphomaniac volume 1" (the film is divided into two volumes) also had a bit of a surreal, blackly humorous, strange and ambiguous quality to it. Many could even interpret it as a fantasy of an unreliable narrator. So this element also sort of had me wondering and triggered way beyond "look how bad sexual violence" etc really is. And if in these types of films we say don't get all worked up over stuff like killings and even other forms of physical violence as well, could (reverse or otherwise) sexual stuff like that also not have us all too riled, even if deep down inside, we know how in general AND matters like that, this sexual line crossing IS a sensitive issue, one way or another, even if we don't deal with outright obvious and already very well known examples of which as such, that also includes very visible and de-facto use of force as well, and done by individuals directly hell bent on hurting and humiliating someone, caring nary about empathy OR law, as sad as it may sound?

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Even in some more direct examples like some films I've mentioned I also at times wondered "yeah, but how bad is it" whilst philosophising a lot about issues that surround it whilst also praying for less confrontations and accusations here, but I hope everyone and people are alright and I haven't opened the Pandora box to contribute ANYTHING negative to the world? And it was many years ago too. Sometimes, I just drooled on and treated certain material as FILM TROPES and nothing more beyond it. Oh, and I consider murder in general, especially of innocents, to be THE worst offense ever known to humanity. But that's me.

Hope its alright now. Regards, Alex, and yes I am now 38 years old.

P.S. No I haven't been "in that way in life" abused myself. But I WAS touched by certain things EMOTIONALLY.

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And back from last year's "treating everyone like shit" argument (with me being at the centre of such accusation) - again, NO offense to ANYONE WHATSOEVER, but one of the issues I've had (and yes I know its not totally correct but I at times just couldn't help it) was that I was often trying to convince people that I'm SMART. Not necessarily smarter than others or even everyone else, but rather, not dumb or stupid, and I often developed this habit of trying to convince everyone of that, as well as experience in certain cases. But I wasn't exclusively like that accusing others, let alone everyone, of being "stupid".

I also recently developed this desire for further optimism and to hear what I want and in ways that I want - especially concerning various aspects of sensitive issues, with some of which I have no real beef against, in others - was wondering a lot. And I often started to desire people gather themselves politely to stylishly debate things but also prove that someone like me needn't worry too much, if that's alright.

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And as against in certain circles of even violent imaginary vigilante justice as I was, I often couldn't help but theoretically BROACH the issue but also state that - OK strict discipline may not be abuse, but it can REMIND us of it and escalate into it given the possibility, so let's ALL be nice and calm, but also, don't think of us as being apologists for certain deeds or their examples or state universally like that that "its unfair", especially since law often claims that there is logic behind it all (i.e. the fact that female offenders are given lesser sentences or lesser angry treatment than their male counterparts, also, can we debate it without involving modern focus groups too much, or is it IMPOSSIBLE?) and hence... Unless you KNOW about certain stuff and how it MUST be at ALL times, that is, if we can't just eradicate great or similar WRONG like that and be all nice law abiding goodies and fairies...

But yeah I am getting ahead of myself.

And really sorry if at times I displayed a stressful approach and a desire to stop certain discussions in last few years, not wanting SPECIFICALLY to go into certain directions. And on lesser note, some things are bad and wrong PERIOD irrespective of what happens to culprits in certain establishments, and even lesser examples are considered as such too, i.e. we are not allowed to intimately even TOUCH clothed people without getting into some sort of trouble over it. Although in many ways I AM coping better with it all and I am sure most of those people no longer hold a grudge, sometimes, people just failed to even be slightly on my wave. And we ARE indeed basically sexually sensitive creatures with punitive and puritanical approaches to such matters, we can't help it.

I am sure it will be all alright later on (most people knew I WAS a bit too troubled and impressionable in such cases, but that's also alright now too.)

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You know how in the notorious Hollywood early 00s romantic sex black comedy "40 Days and 40 Nights" (2002) by Michael Lehmann (of Heathers (1989) fame) many audiences angrily complained that the character of Nicole played by Vinessa Shaw got away with legally with s*xually assaulting Josh Hartnett's Matt character towards the end?

As much as I DO NOT complain or disagree too much with here, but if we're going to be CONSISTENT in our angry justifiable complaints and also think too much of it all in terms of LEGAL issues, even if some movies and many with male perpetrators (hence, I stopped being a huge fan of the "If it was a man..." arguments) had and welcomed vengeance scenarios, should we also complain then about plenty of other films that had many villains GET AWAY with "crimes that they commit"? Food for thought.

Also, yeah many years ago, without defending, but I did wonder about the hype of it all, how bad it is, human emotions and sex morals and laws, but I hope its cool and alright and even THAT ISSUE in THAT movie I decided to simply treat as a cinematic trope, with OR without controversial arguments and even how for instance, and some people did state that, depends on consequences, for men some acts may not be as eternally damaging and totally nightmarish, and maybe that film sarcastically tried to make that sort of statement whilst also in a way in a blackly humorous manner dealing with a relativity of various aspects of such matters as that.

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And I understand WHERE audiences were coming from but I kinda wanted to rest of angry hype around it too and also wonder if accusations levied against that movie were totally correct like that or if maybe we can take it with a relative pinch and salt and the film wasn't "saying its OK either".
(Although I was also teasing one user with some provocative questions here and there including legal system but yeah I was indulging in wishful thinking and also, well, you know, even guilty especially those individuals who are not men, you know, hurting them is wrong too etc... Or at least seen widely in general that way, and I wanted to take it EASIER ALSO. But I hope its alright and I didn't commit any massive social infractions here.)

I also dare say that here, I felt elements of shy embarrassment and a kind of shock value on its own, but I sometimes got lost in saying this and that and even wondered if, albeit in a cinematic world, it really is so tragic that he doesn't even report her to the police for it, whether he was cautious of the difficulties and further trouble around it or not, and seeing attractive chicks as villains occasionally got me into a shock surprise of its own rather than mere desire to seek justice although of course I wasn't against it either. And many things I didn't feel like stating out loud however the combination of those truths occasionally made me wonder and encourage others to do so in a civilized manner.

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In the film Basic Instinct (1992) for instance, SPOILER, yeah we knew later Sharon Stone's character was a murderer, she was also a sensuous and attractive female character and as audiences we could be intrigued and even infatuated by and with her, and I didn't hear TOO many people angrily complain that she got away with arguably the worst deed against those who didn't deserve it (other controversial aspects around that movie briefly put aside). But by contrast, with 40 Days and 40 Nights and that scene, in modern times, we were forced to confront our feelings of shame and guilt even over double standards in rather angry ways, not even met with ironic understanding here or there etc. With THAT in mind, its all logical and whatnot and OK yeah I get it but still...

But don't worry, I like to think that I am not that crazy over all of that type of stuff but also, yeah, even personal soul cleansing matters in all of this is easier said than done.

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Hahahaa you win!

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The previous 9 posts were originally all part of one long rambling post.

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