So being single and working the overnight shift, I have a tendency to eat out quite often and many times I order from the restaurant's online menu and in the end, when it comes time to pay for the "To Go Order", it'll give you Tipping Options like 10%, 15% 20% etc. I generally tip 15% because I know inflation is tough, but here's the thing: When I arrive at the Restaurant to pick up my to go order, they expect a Tip for bagging the food up and one time I didn't tip the person handing me the bag and she was pissed about it because I didn't tip her for taking the time to bag the food and whatnot, even after I already tipped 15% Online.. How do you feel about this?? Is this acceptable?? 🤔
I generally don't agree with tipping, tipping shouldn't be a norm, it should be something you do when the service you recieve is above and beyond the norm. let's say the taxi driver pulled a lot closer to your building when it was raining so you wouldn't get wet, went out of his way to do something that was more than just taking you from A-B, then yeah i'd gladly tip well.
but it's become something thats just a given now. didn't walmart or someone have a thing for tips on their SELF checkout!?
it's a money grab, tipping should be for when the service you get goes above the basic expected.
As an outsider, the tipping thing in the USA makes no sense at all. Although, I concede that I may be missing something. It's a cultural thing.
So tipping, while not technically obligatory, pretty much is anyway because everybody knows waiting staff rely on tips because they don't even get paid minimum wage. And you're basically a Mr Pink scumbag if you don't tip. Right so far?
Wouldn't it make more sense just to add 15% (or whatever) to the cost of the meal and pay the staff more? Isn't that just skipping an unnecessary step? Or am I being overly simplistic?
Also, while we're here: just add sales tax on to the ticket prices, so what's on the ticket is what you pay at the counter.
Are all these things used to make people think they're paying less than they are. Who does that fool? My guess: no-one.
let's see. i made a joke about shogunofyonkers, that by the way, took it better than you.
since you read it, you've responded to me there., you've clearly clicked on my profile and then read my last 7 or 8 comments and "insulted" me in everyone, even going back to 2 days ago.
did it really bother you that much? you seem to see some of the users here like your family. i guess it's kinda sweet, but you really shouldn't get so angry about a throw away joke i made to somebody you've never met in the real world...
the internet isn't real life, it's just a bunch of jerk offs going back and forth, don't take it so seriously.
THE GUY TELLING EVERYONE ELSE TO RELAX AND HOW THINGS REALLY ARE.....THAT GUY ISN'T AROUND TOO LONG....YOU MIGHT TRY BEING YOURSELF AND POSTING LIKE A GROWN UP.
i don't care if i've been here for 1 day or 10 years. just because you have no life and have posted here nearly 70 thousand times, doesn't give you any authority or status.
and even if it did, it's a website that 20 people use thats a copy of another...
you really do need to relax, and telling me to grow up when you've followed me around, because i made a joke about your friend..
Shogun is a good egg. You guys just got off on the wrong foot. I’m not saying not to fight—you should definitely throw hands—but have a beer afterward.
rumours are you had a couple of drinks last night and gave it beak. now you've woken up, read the messages, instant regret and you've shit in your damn pants.
you wanna throw hands, lets see an address and proof you live there. cause i'm not going to yonkers and you really live in san francisco with your lover steve.
real address with proof and we'll dance. i'll even bring someone to stream it.
There was a study done in California which showed "results indicate a statistically significant minimum wage price elasticity of 0.058 for the overall restaurant industry—meaning a 10 percent increase in the minimum wage is associated with a 0.58 percent increase in restaurant menu prices in San Jose. This price elasticity implies that restaurants responded to the 25 percent increase minimum wage by increasing prices, on average, by 1.45 percent; furthermore, a 95 percent confidence interval rules out increases of more than 2.23 percent."
Which goes to show that restaurants could pay their staff a lot more than they do without really costing the consumer too much more. So your idea of just adding 15% to the bill could have those employees with actual living wages, and maybe even benefits.
the thing is though, being a waiter isn't a living wage job. i was a waiter when i was 17 in a friends restaurant. i was 17, lived at home and it gave me gas money, money to do things...
it's the least skilled job on the planet, you pick up a plate from the kitchen, take it to a table, smile, customer finishes, you take plate away. repeat...
in many restaurants the waiters don't even take the drinks order or payment at the end.
i was a waiter, so i'm not saying theres anything bad being one, i just think that it's a job for people who are usually studying, 17, 18, 19, 20 year olds....
if someone gets to 35 and is a waiter to be able to pay rent, pay a mortagage, food, bills... for a very very low skilled job... then no.
they really should have picked up a skill by then to get a job that pays a decent living wage.
The minimum wage was established to ensure that jobs pay enough to support families. For many years it was set at about half the wage paid to a typical skilled worker.
When I was 17 (1994) I worked a minimum wage job and could afford an apartment on my own. When I was 24, in university, both my fiance and I were working minimum wage jobs and we were able to buy a house.
Why shouldn't low skilled work at least pay for the base minimum of food, clothing, and shelter? How is it okay for someone to work 40 hours a week, and still need food stamps? Or have the company they are working for only give them 35 hours a week so they aren't full time, so they don't get any benefits, and still have to find another job to make ends meet? Where are they going to find the time, and resources to go to school to get a better job?
they really should have picked up a skill by then to get a job that pays a decent living wage
This is a perfect example of privilege. Not everyone has parents who can support them through picking up a skill when they are young, and some people may not have the skills. Why should that matter? Why shouldn't someone doing the jobs that those with privilege do not want to do at least be able to have a roof over their heads and food on the table?
Also, customer service is not unskilled. There are a lot of people who cannot deal with the public. That is a skill.
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There are videos on youtube from japan, korea and even other countries where robots are now waiters., the entire "staff" of these restaurants are robots, so if you insist on paying waiters crazy wages for the most basic work there is, you'll just have robots.
it's not privilege, it's the reality. i worked my ass off being a waiter, but these jobs are stop gaps, you work there while you are studying to be something better.
Nobody is forced to be a waiter, you go in knowing what the wage is, you know it's shitty. the idea is to learn a real skill, a skill that people will pay you enough to live the life you want.
you can use buzz words, say it's some kind of privilege, but it's simply the reality of the world.
I'm not just talking about waiting jobs. I'm talking about all minimum wage paying jobs. There are servers who work their asses off. Why shouldn't they get paid at least enough to afford a place to live?
You say it's not a privilege, it's reality. You're reality is the privilege. It's a luxury to be able to study while working a minimum paying job. You were able to work that low paying job because I'm assuming you weren't paying for your rent, food, and tuition. I'm assuming you were getting help from somewhere. I might be wrong, you might have done it when I did it back when housing was affordable.
You brought up Japan, well Japan, has well regulated healthcare where citizens will not break their bank paying to see a doctor, and they also have free education programs.
You talk about servers being able to be replaced by robots. Guess what? Most jobs could end up being replaced by robots. Even surgeons. So...what happens when the work force is replaced? Don't discount a job as being unworthy. That person busting their ass wiping tables would probably do better financially on welfare, but they are working.
Tipping is an unacceptable practice, business should pay their employees in full and add the appropriate cost in the price of the product, they shouldn't expect us pay whatever we like their employees
The result of this practice is unhappy employees who may be careless with your food if you know what I mean... if you are a well known low tipping customer
I tip appropriately depending on which country I’m in, however, I do feel the tips that are expected in the US now are getting ridiculous (the strangest example was a guy in a ticket booth had a tip jar for just handing out tickets!?).
I mean, I tip 15% for a take out order I order online and then I'm expected to tip again when I arrive for just bagging it up?? 🤔 I feel like if I don't tip, they'll remember the next time and tamper with my food and that's a terrible feeling one shouldn't have when spending $$$$ at an establishment..
The wage for servers and bartenders usually starts at $2.19 an hour and rarely goes above that. I was a server and my hourly wage was $2.39. You'll meet people who "don't believe in tipping" but they don't realize that not tipping a meal, even just a couple of bucks, essentially means your server did free labor for you. The most I made in a day was $560, while the lowest I made was probably $7.
I hear you, it does become a bit obnoxious. I really don’t care for tip jars in a deli for instance. I worked in a couple delis in my youth and any coworker who put a tip jar out got a talking to from me. It’s not like I was the boss but don’t shame us, we are earning money making pork sandwiches for construction workers and cops, this is no five star operation over here. Jeez, I’m no begger, I’m working here.
It’s definitely a cultural/regional thing. For some odd reason New Yorkers tend to ‘overtop’ to give it a name.
On my first few dates I went on with my now wife I noticed she would usually tip heavily and I realized I routinely did the same thing…if the dinner and wine bill was a hundred bucks we just left $25 for the busboy and waitress. It was our routine. It works out for everyone.
You go back to the place, become a ‘regular’ and they treat you nice. The bars and eateries always remember a good tipper, it’s part of the deal.
Because of my status on some lines, when I cruise I get free drinks, or occasionally I get the drink package where tips are included, but I always leave a few bucks to the bar tender and I always get fantastic service - even when it's really busy, I get my drinks right away.