Looks like the Titanic has taken mores lives
Five tourists are missing on a submarine to the famous wreck
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-submarine-missing-rescue-mission-underway-newfoundland-canada/
Five tourists are missing on a submarine to the famous wreck
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-submarine-missing-rescue-mission-underway-newfoundland-canada/
There is at least some cause for hope:
Asked about the emergency oxygen supply, Mauger said, "We anticipate that there are somewhere between 70 to the full 96 hours available at this point."share
we can hope. 12,000 feet is a long way down.
shareWe are going to see this kind of thing in space tourism as well
shareMaybe engineering teams going forward will learn from this scenario and equip vessels sent into hostile environments with some sort of propulsion system. So they can, you know, come back.
sharepeople will die in this endeavor as well.
shareAs I said on the other thread, if anyone is still alive, AND they're found, I don't know that it's physically possible to rescue them.
Is there any ship on Earth capable of going down 12,000 feet, and hauling a disabled submersible to the surface? Is there a 12,000' cable long and strong enough to pull a submarine to the surface, or any winch strong enough to haul a submersible and a cable all that way?
I'm really surprised that the vessel didn't have some sort of tracking device. Something designed to continually emit a signal in an event such as this.
I cringe when thinking about what could have happened. Did the observation window develop a crack? At that depth the pressure is intense. Any breach would mean instant implosion with the occupants being squashed like bugs. True nightmare material.
GPS doesn't work underwater due to the rapid breakdown of radio waves in that environment. They were navigating via relayed text messages.
shareI thought there was some type of transponder or beacon that could emit a signal, using the same technology that enables submariners to communicate with ships on the surface. When Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went missing in 2014 I thought there was talk about attempts to pick up a similar signal. Maybe I misread the articles.
shareSONAR exists, but even that isn't quite as pinpoint accurate when trying to find a needle in the dark. Even military subs don't typically venture as deep as this vessel.
For what it's worth, this voyage was through a privately funded tour company and a chartered oil rig transport. A reporter previously raised some concerns about the diving vessel's improvised construction:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-visiting-the-most-famous-shipwreck-in-the-world/
Okay, someone on another forum said that the submersible had an emergency system, where in the event of any kind of power loss the ship would lose heavy equipment or ballast, effortlessly rise to the surface as it became lighter than water, and set off an automatic emergency beacon. So in the case of mechanical trouble, the ship would rise to the surface and beep away as it bobbed helplessly in the waves, and hopefully be picked up before everyone inside suffocated, because according to reports, the hatches couldn't be opened from the inside.
And if the sub hasn't risen to the surface and set off the emergency beacon, that probably means there was a hull breach, and it's collapsed and sunk to the bottom. Well, that was the likeliest possibility all along. Sorry, guys, this isn't looking like a second Thai cave rescue story.
And now someone else said that the sub itself was a slapdash affair that was steered by a video game joystick! And that the only way it could commiunicate with the surface was by text, and then only when it was very close to the support ship.
They must be dead.
'because according to reports, the hatches couldn't be opened from the inside.'
Yes, apparently, the hatch is actually bolted in place once you're in. Can only be opened from the outside. So underwater or on the surface, you're screwed once the air supply runs out.
And according to these reports there's no food and water, beyond what people bring themselves for a day trip, and get this... NO BATHROOMS. JUST SOME ZIPLOC BAGS.
Like I said, I hope it was quick.
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Golden rule when I was in the military was that you don't do it unless you have a contingency plan for when (not if) it goes wrong.
shareI can only imagine how crazy they must be going confined in such a small space with limited food and worrying about being found before their oxygen runs out. They lost contact just above the wreck so I guess that sounds like a little bit of a positive knowing the radius the rescue team has to search around.
shareI wonder if there are suicide pills on board, just like they give the astronauts - just in case.
I would love to see Titanic in person and go into space, but only if I had a way to quickly end it if something went south. Of course, if there was an implosion, they probably didn't know what hit them.
My son thinks they're already dead - I'm not sure, but I think that would be better than trapped, waiting for the air to run out.
I figure if people who are trapped in mines can survive for a week, I don't see why these guys can't until they run out of oxygen on Thursday. It must be torture for them down there.
shareThe tour company advertised a once in a lifetime experience with the Titanic for $250,000 apiece, so what more do you want?
shareThey're dead, Jim.
shareThat's not even the worst scenario.
The worst scenario is that they're still alive and *waiting* to die, because there's absolutely no way they can be safely brought back to the surface.
If the failure wasn't catastrophic, they probably would still be sending signals. If there was simply a power failure, they would already be frozen.
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