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Do you think tipping should be abolished?


I copied and pasted below from Reddit. I think they make a good point. https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonalFinanceCanada/comments/o33s3m/why_do_we_tip/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button



In come the downvotes. Very controversial topic which is going to get hated on by the general public but I’d still like to know if my logic isn’t sound here.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been tipping my entire life, but money matters to me more now that I have more responsibilities.

Why are we tipping? The waiter is just doing their job and they’re getting paid an hourly wage for it, why does society feel like it’s mandatory for us to pay an additional 15% of our meal, at a minimum, for someone doing their job. The rebuttal to this is usually, “It helps them make a living wage.” But with this logic, we should be tipping all minimum wage workers so everyone can have a living wage. Why are we not tipping the other minimum wage workers who provide us with a service like McDonalds workers we come across. They have hard shifts too and feed you, standing there near the hot kitchen all day prepping food.

Back in the day serving used to be a profession for single moms to provide for their kids so I guess the tradition of tipping got passed down. But now there’s so many opportunistic in North America, if servers are unhappy with their wage they should study something and look for something else. Most of the time now servers are young, so very unlikely they are supporting a family and more likely it’s a side job while studying or they’re unsure what career path they want to follow.

TLDR: Why is tipping necessary. I work hard for my money and need it too, why am I giving it to someone else for doing their job.

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How many owners here?

Is money that tight in the industry??
Most of the time yes.

By me this popular breakfast and lunch place is closing, deli/ farm.

Line out the door every morning for egg sandwiches.

His rent is 30,000 a month....
He said as fast as it comes it, it goes out, most of the time break even...

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sure, nuke it. it's gotten insane now where EVERYWHERE put out a tip jar.

next thing you know they street corner money beggars with have a hand out for money, and also a TIP JAR. :D

a FOAF told me tips in chain fast food places never go to the employees. not sure if true but might be

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We don’t tip in Australia but I think our hospitality staff get paid better than in the US. On the flip side service in Australia sucks too lol.

Why is it though some staff get tipped yet staff at fast food places like McDonalds etc don’t? What is the difference in their jobs? Or is it the place itself?

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fast food no one waits on you, dinning there's someone there refilling your drink & catering to you & your order

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I always thought tipping was about topping up the poor wages of the staff? That is how it is sold to us here anyway.

I'm not in favor having to top up the staff's pay because their bosses are too tight to pay properly.

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topping em up, i dig it

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Because employees at fast food restaurants get paid minimum wage or higher. Wait staff at restaurants that actually have to physically wait on you and bring you things and stuff like that get paid less than minimum wage. Which I think is total bullshit.

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That does sound like a bad deal. I didn't know fast food workers actually got paid more than what would be more skilled hospitality staff in restaurants etc.

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Yes, I think we need to go to the European system of servers being paid living wages, and a "service charge: being added to each bill.

Of course there's a lot of resistance against that, because the tipping system empowers the assholes among us, the jerks who like to make the servers dance to their tune for the hope of a large enough tip to pay the rent. They will defend their right to be assholes with an irrational amount of energy.

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Tipping means the wait staff actually have to be nice and check on you. My dad used to travel to Australia for business and the biggest complaint he had was needing to go searching for staff to serve him or top up his drinks etc. So hell no, we don't need that here.

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Tipping is not expected in Britain but if I eat at restaurant and the wait staff are friendly then always leave a tip. It shouldn't be frowned upon if you don't tip.

It used to be similar here with hairdressers before minimum wage was a thing because they got paid so little. I was a hairdressing junior when I left school in 1996, it was gruelling work and I got paid £54 a week ☹.

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Once fair wages are installed all across the board, absolutely. There's this idea that paying employees fairly will inflate costs, but costs are rising anyway and there's always some excuse, so why not actually do it for a good reason?

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You oppose tipping. How do you feel about corkage fees in restaurants with no beer and wine license? Such restaurants will let patrons of legal age to bring our own bottle, but will then charge the a “corkage fee” for opening the bottle for the customer, even if it’s sealed with a screw-top cap, which an Orangutan could open. It could be a $1500 bottle or a $7 bottle. The restaurant will fuck you for a surcharge because they could not pay for either a liquor license or a beer/wine license and/or because their owner is in The Slam; or all of the the above. Do you support this practice, OP? My date and I can drink our water glasses dry, crack open a magnum of Old Rotgut and enjoy our beverages with our meal, and YOU want a cut?! Not in this lifetime.

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It's all folly I say!

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I would take my custom elsewhere.

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