The police were cowards in that Uvalde shooting.
What is the point of having police then? They sat outside and put more effort to tackling and arresting concerned parents rather than kill that 18 year old kid. They let those children die.
shareMandatory cowardice thanks to you, the voter. Once it was a "hostage situation" they automatically have to follow certain rules. Rules that, if broken, will result in the same "de-fund/disband" rhetoric you espouse now. You know that if they charged in they would be labelled as "reckless and endangering those children" and talking heads on every news channel save one would be saying "The rules exist for a reason and we cannot have cowboys running our law enforcement."
Create rules.
Blame the consequences on others.
The rules changed after the 1999 Columbine shootings when police stood outside and let those 2 demons slaughter kids. That was the pivotal moment. Nowadays, the police is supposed to go in and kill the gunman at all costs. Police are trained in this ("active shooter" scenario).
shareBut it clearly wasn't a hostage situation, it was a massacre and they knew it. They violated their own policy by hanging back and letting him run amok.
shareIt was declared a hostage situation at one point (ie. someone told them that it was no longer an "active shooter" situation). Hands tied while the public, whom voted for the restriction, blames them. Had those policemen acted on their own agency, charged in, and a single child was killed during it, you know exactly what the narrative would be.
shareThat's nonsense. Go in there and do the job you're hired to do. I don't buy any of these excuses.
Funny how cops don't worry about the rules when they're killing unarmed black men.
Blame the bureaucrats!
"Go in there and do the job you're hired to do"
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"Oh, and also ... you are not allowed to do A, B. C. D. E. F. G. H. I, J, K, L. M. N, nor P even if one of those is crucial to the success of the operation or even the actual "job" in question, you racist pig cops!"
Funny how the BLM narrative endures after being factually dis-proven and the organization itself collapsing under fraud and false pretense.
It is no wonder that police officers are quitting in droves. They all get punished for the 1 in 500,000 of them that are bad.
I do blame bureaucrats. Them and the hoards that follow their emotional narrative.
That's a load of bollocks.
With a gun and power comes responsibility. I have police officers in my family. I am not "anti-police".
Nah, the excuses being given by those chickenshit cops who let those children die do not stand up to scrutiny.
That would have been handled very differently by the LAPD for whom my nephew works. Children's lives were at stake.
No, you don't kill unarmed suspects. Yes, your job is to protect the public.
I would rather that the cops involved had said fuck it to the rules and gone in. Officers have been beaten down for years though. Not surprised that they went robot mode and obeyed. Disappointed, however.
You know .... YOU KNOW what the lead on the news would be if a single child was shot when they charged in during what would more vigorously be referred to as a hostage situation. The cops know too. We have fewer heroes. It is another situation where you get less of what you punish.
"the LAPD for whom my nephew works"
My best friend from high school works LAPD. I wonder if we have mutual friends from both the LAPD and from the Calipatria Prison. lol
Well I'm the only one in my family who's ever been in prison. I'm sort of the bad boy from a very straight laced middle class line. Lol. I've got academics on one side and police and firefighters on the other.
I'm wondering though if the Uvalde police were just in over their heads. It's a small town. The cops there are probably more used to crimes like petty theft and jaywalking.
I hadn't even considered actual failed morale checks by these cops. Comfortable local law, accustomed to nothing exciting ever, suddenly thrust into a deadly situation and being filmed. I think that you are correct that an organization like the LAPD would have handled this better. However, I am afraid of the possibility that they wouldn't have. Morale and motivation are both suffering there as in many other depts as I understand it. Fewer want to protect and serve a population that seethes with hatred for them.
I'd like to think that the occupation imbues the grit necessary to say "screw the consequences, I'm going in to save those kids!" Said consequences could be the eventual stomping out of that very grit.
I'm a preacher's kid and both of my parents have Masters. I've been in the middle of drug busts and partied with some hard crowds in my life. I understand Black Sheep (an older sister of mine was the Black Sheep. I learned the kung-fu style of Gray Sheep). I might have a similar kind of life exposure as you do.
Okay, sounds like you've been around the block a few times, like me.
I have noticed that my nephew has changed completely since becoming a cop. He's no longer the easy going friendly kid he once was.
There seems to be an all around lack of competence of American officials and institutions right now. The country does not seem capable of professional and decisive action whether it be law enforcement, military, medical and health officials, or national leadership. The competent, pragmatic country in which I grew up seems a shadow of itself today
shareNot to mention, too many fat people in the USA with obesity rates skyrocketing! I'm sure the military will have a hard time recruiting fit, healthy young men to join. And then the US military will be seen as a global laughingstock with only fat people joining because that's all they can find.
shareAs long as they can handle weapons and drones I don't think modern armies have to be super fit. Fat and strong is better than thin and weak.
shareYou are full of poor logic and bad information, and your nephew working for a particular department doesn't elevate them in any manner accept in your mind. They all have protocol, and recent anti police sentiment have forced them to be particularly compliant.
shareNo, the Uvalde cops were just chickenshit.
shareOK internet Rambo that still lives with his mom. 🤣
shareI'm only going by what I see on every news source from to internet to tv. Uvalde were a bunch of small town Mayberry cops who didn't have a clue what to do. Those children's blood is on their hands. That's what the hearings are about.
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Amen!
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