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Is having a dead parent a movie cliché?


Seems to be a lot of orphans in movies.

Is it to create a stronger bond between parent and child?

Or its easier than having a mom/dad combo hanging around?

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Overused plot device, not cliche.

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Not necessarily a plot device, more of a dynamic device. Family dynamic. Parent/child dynamic.

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^ I think this makes better sense in describing these events, in Film today. But, I have a feeling, it will become the norm and Hollywood films/tv will show this more prominently to the point of becoming a cliché.

Don't ask me why, it's just a feeling.

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I get the impression from listening to reviews of new Star Trek that they constantly have to have parents or ancestors of main characters who are also heroes or famous.

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When I first saw the title of the thread I thought it said dead parrot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t70338JIPY0

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It's an old plot device that predates movies. Oliver Twist was an orphan and so was Jane Eyre. People like it. I always thought that it gave the underdogs in life someone to identify with. You might seem to be lowly Colin Commoner with nothing to look forward to but really you're wealthy Prince Peregrin Ponsonby with the world at your feet !


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I'm glad someone else said it! It's an old story device meant to make the audience feel sympathy for a young character. It's common in fairy tales, which is why it's seen in a lot of prominent Disney movies too.

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Yes that's the other side of it of course, it appeals to parents who feel sorry for the poor orphan child with no-one to love them and look after them.

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Yes! Especially in Disney films, where almost all of the young protagonists are short a mother, if not both parents.

It's done to give very young protagonists more freedom than the average child. Nobody can have adventures if they have a mother hovering over them, so the mother is usually just removed before the action begins,

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There was a story year back that Walt Disney always killed off the mother because he felt guilty about his own mother's death and thought of it as a form of penance. He had built his parents a new house and there was something wrong with the heater. Rather than send a professional he sent an employee who knew about heaters. The guy screwed up the repairs and she asphyxiated on Carbon Monoxide.

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Yes, I know I read about that at one point.
But I must point that even when Walt was alive, it is not like the mother was killed off in every Disney movie.
And even if she was, the story was mostly an old fairytale or an existing piece of literature.
So I don't think that Walt killed the mothers off on purpose.

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I'll admit I don't know if the reason is true or not. Just what I read.

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Well, an awful lot of old fairy tales are about orphans or motherless children, presumably because young people who have to answer to their doting mothers have less freedom and agency. There'd be no story, if Hansel and Gretel, Snow White, or Cinderella had a doting mother.

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Well, it is not like there aren't plenty of exceptions.
Simba from "The Lion King" and Tiana from "The Princess & the Frog" lose their fathers, but not their mothers.
Aladdin has been forced to live as an orphan for years, but is later reunited with his father in a sequel.
Aurora from "Sleeping Beauty" and Mulan from "Mulan" and Mirabel from "Encanto" all have two living parents.
Hercules even had two sets of parents!
However, it is true that orphans and missing mothers have been very common in Disney movies over the years.
But I want to point out that you can't say that all of their stories are the same...

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It worked in "Psycho".

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Yes, and a very overused cliche in novels too. The aim is usually to force the child into a situation where they in turn have to grow up or face some unknown adult conundrum, which makes up the meat of the entire novel/movie. Plus, it helps sell us on the obnoxious overt neglect of the remaining parent - since a lot of audiences often ask, where are the parents in this movie and why is parent X so negligent? Because they're in mourning, of course.

Idk why they don't just have parents be divorced, since that works just as well, but they don't always want to add that emotional baggage to the story, or they need to idealize the dead parent for some pay off or explanation for some action or event in the movie later, where the child realizes, hey, my mom/dad wasn't perfect after all.

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I mean, it's a thing in comicbook culture too. Peter Parker's parents died. Bruce Wayne's parents died and that was in a 1938 comic. Then there's Superman whose biological parents and people were killed when his home planet exploded. So it's not just movies. It's in comics too.

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