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women lie with makeup, how do men lie?


ladies? how do men misrepresent their real selves?

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I'm not a woman, but I've heard that men lie about their careers....

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so women adjust their presented image, men adjust their presented "income" ?

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Easy. This is all men:

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2010/08/22/strength_wide-f82ab7c6cf40ee7df563c3a7a05f2709a38aac88.jpg

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I did not allow my picture to be on that website! :D

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Embellished accomplishments
Hair Dye
Girdles
Shoe Lifts
Contact Lenses
Capped teeth
Plastic surgery
Hair pieces
Botox
Steroids
Viagra
A decent tailor
Something large stuffed down your trousers

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all added to my shopping list. thanks! :D

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I need to add plastic surgery.

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This has been suggested to me as well.

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....and a decent tailor.

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but dressing nice is not a lie. they are simply dressing nice. how is that wrong?

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A well cut and made outfit can hide all manner of things, lol.

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Plus something large stuffed down your trousers.

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To be fair though, wearing make up isn’t a lie either. It’s an embellishment, just like nice clothes or a particular hairstyle.

Everyone wants to look nice now and again. The inference that women who wear make up are lying seems unfair to me.

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Many many men wear make ups too, like rock stars, or the military, actors, etc.

The whole premise of the thread is based on dishonesty. That's just how the OP rolls.

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why do you bother with me? i notice you tend to follow my posts and comment negatively about my persona, of which you know nothing about. seems an odd hobby for you.

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I was simply stating facts. I know truth hurts but no need to be so upset about it. Man up. Chillax.

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sorry, but I am zero upset and don't care about your existence. just find it odd what you do. I have more life than to follow you around. :)
facts is not me being dishonest. fact is, you make stuff up.
enjoy whatever fantasy world you live in, I don't care :)

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See?

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The military?

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Eyelashes are one area where a woman's appearance changes drastically whether mascara is used.
If I like a woman, obviously I'm not going to be disappointed seeing them w/o makeup, but it can be a bit surprising when you experience it the first time.

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My man is very good with gaiters. Too bad no one told me...no diamonds in the country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU-G2hkrY74&t=19m21s

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im thinking "common", like all men do this. like women and makeup

(not baggin on makeup, it is just the present example)

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Not all women wear makeup though.

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I haven't worn make up, other than the couple of times I've been on stage, in the last 15 or so years.

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My wife doesn’t wear makeup except for a bit of lippy if we’re going somewhere nice.

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You forgot hairpieces (rugs).

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It's on my list between plastic surgery and botox.

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Okay, hehehe.

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I may be repeating something already posted, because the 1st respondent to this topic is someone I have on Ignore, but men lie to women all the time, primarily with our words, snd, as a gender, we encourage each other to do so in order to “score,” as if mating were a sport. This is pathetic and it disgusts me.

It also embarrasses me as a man that the (presumably male) OP thinks makeup is a form of lying. Poet Andrew Marvel wrote, “Wit is Nature to advantage dressed/What oft was thought, but ne’re so well expressed.” There is nothing deceitful about dressing to advantage. There is, however, something tremendously immature about feeling deceived by a practice that is fucking COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

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men lie to women all the time, primarily with our words, snd, as a gender, we encourage each other to do so in order to “score,” as if mating were a sport. This is pathetic and it disgusts me.

And this is what happens when you feed people with male-hating propaganda in each and every movie: women are celestial beings, men are pathetic and disgusting (but only the other ones, he's different).

It also embarrasses me as a man that the (presumably male) OP thinks makeup is a form of lying.

Of course is a form of lying. The same than a former colleague of mine who got an expensive car to brag and bang. And it worked. Why? Because it created a "wealthier" fake image. Lies come in all sizes, and not all of all them are capital sins. When people go out to bang somebody, they often try to project an image which is not very true to life. Both men and women. In the case of women, make-up is part of it. And that's fine, it's not such a big deal.

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I don't mind make up, but my wording was EXTREMELY concise and direct, skipping all the time wasting explanations about makeup: presenting a false self to others, fucking common as it may be.

Thus, my question: this is how women present a false image, what do men do to do the same? We GENERALLY don't put on foundation, skin toner, lip gloss, extra eye lashes, eye shadow, mascera and eye liner to be more attractive to others.... (I did stress GENERALLY)

but, we talk up false importance in money and jobs, it sounds like. dress nice, use cars... and it works (see my gold digger post, or jokes from Dave Chappelle)

So women leverage their looks, men leverage their providing, same but different approach. because the sexes knows what appeals to the opposite.

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Extra pair of socks strategically placed.

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Men never lie.

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I would say "True" but I would never want to tell a lie or be inaccurate.

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OK, fine. Real men don't lie.

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Isn't all that make up stuff about women using it for lies and manipulation a complete MYTH? For one, what's the point and two, how do they know and how does it even manage to be even slightly EFFECTIVE?

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Does this answer that?

BASELINE: women add makeup to self
why? "to feel pretty" some will say
compared to what? "um.... how I look not wearing makeup?" (or to look better than the next girl)
and pretty for who? "Myself??"
no, you don't stare at yourself all day long... it's for others, also, to attract mates. yes, exactly like animals do.

Sexy women in pageants, do not NOT ware makeup.
Sexy women in film, do not NOT wear makeup.
Every porn star wears makeup to be sexier.
Women on onlyfans: makeup
Women used in advertising: makeup

I don't think any of this is up for debate. It simply is how things are.

for the curious: Miss Universes with and without
https://www.insider.com/miss-universe-no-makeup-photos-2019-12

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"I'm a nice guy!"

But seriously, what's with all the cranks and incels hating on women's makeup? I don't notice them going out of their way to hit on women who don't wear makeup, or telling each other that they love the sight of a woman with her naturally pale eyelashes on display, so what gives? Are they just angry that women don't really have bright red lips and eyelashes an inch long?

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Nah, they're just angry / dissapointed cause they're not getting laid. It's a hormonal thing.

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They're angry at everything, especially themselves, not that they'll ever realize that.

But WTF is up with hating on makeup in particular? Loads of them do it, it's so weird.

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They secretly want to wear makeups themselves to appear prettier / more handsome so then they can get laid. Hey, their logic.

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You think people who don't want to take the trouble to shower or shave, or make ANY effort to improve their appearance, secretly want to wear makeup???

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Yes. Not doing something does not mean not wanting it. Sounds crazy, but it's true.

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True, maybe they're jealous that they can't just slap on a better face.

Of course they have no clue that using makeup to look prettier requires time, expense, and expertise... or that it's not their looks that are the problem.

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Trivialisation of others is usually what jealous people do. It's basically the same as some people who think that women are simply attracted to rich guys.

They obsess with golddiggers and believe if only they have lots of money they can get whoever girl they want. In their mind it's so trivial.

Money = get women
Women with makeups = to get (rich) men

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Money will get you gold-digger!

But even gold-diggers have their limits.

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They conflate golddiggers and all women. Hiding behind words like "generally," "almost all," "most," etc. But in their minds, it really is all about if only they have money, they believe they'll get whoever woman they want.

It's never about effort or honesty. It's always trivial to them, money = women (because "generally" women are golddiggers, remember?) Therefore, the only reason why they don't get laid is simply because they're not filthy rich, nothing else.

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I'm okay with gold-diggers, because there are some people who have absolutely nothing to offer another person but their money, and for such a person... a gold-digger is the ideal spouse, the only possible spouse!

Everyone else wants something besides money, a little kindness or hygiene or something, but a really dedicated gold-digger can do the world the great kindness of removing some of the real assholes from the dating pool.

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Hahaahaa. Looks like someone lacks experience conversating with easily triggered internet peoples. Keep at it though, you'll get there. :)

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I'm not familiar with cranks incels hating makeup. shoot me a link?

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