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Things you're glad to see gone


For me, pay toilets.

For those not old enough to remember the 1970s, they were common everywhere, at least here in the US. You had to put a dime into a coin operated lock on the stall door. Then it would unlock, and you could enter, sit down, and take care of business. You were wise to carry a few dimes with you when outside your home. You never knew when you might need them.

Otherwise you could end up having to cheat by sliding under the door. Humiliating, and quite difficult when wearing a fish costume. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bCjbCy76S5c/VQzOJTNk8PI/AAAAAAAAALc/ObtZg_hKtkQ/s1600/Fish%2BStory%2BWKRP%2Bpig%2Band%2Bfish.jpg

Women's lib changed that. Their leader called pay toilets sexist. Both genders had to pay to crap. But we dudes could use urinals and so we could pee for free. Women had to pay to do that.

Some men were in favor of women's lib. Those men shouted, "damn right!"

Some men were against women's lib. But they understood that the very existence of pay toilets was now in critical condition. Those men shouted, "damn right!"

And then, no more pay toilets.

What are things you don't miss about the past?

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Picture tube TVs

Audio cassettes

Rotary phones

Metal and cardboard motor oil cans

Smoking in restaurants and public places

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No matter what the size tube tvs were so heavy so I'm glad HDTV came along.

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I collect audio cassettes and still have many mix tapes from the 80’s-90’s. 😀

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Better digitize them. The will deteriorate.

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I’ve been transferring them to my computer at an average of one per week. It’s an on going thing though because I’m always looking for more.

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If any of them start to sound warped, put it in a zip lock and throw in the freezer overnight. Copy it to something on first play.

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I’ve never heard of that trick and I’ll keep it in mind. Thanks

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Smoking in restaurants and public places


I hate smoking more than anyone, but I believe it should be up to the owner of each establishment to determine if they want to allow smoking or not in their bars/restaurants. I hate the law banning smoking in restaurants and bars. I think it is wrong.

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I think pay toilets are making a bit of a comeback in the UK. There is sometimes a little turnstile at the entrance that requires 20p or 30p to open. Though on some you can cheat by swinging a bag against the inside of device that, I assume, triggers the detector to unlock the stile and allow users out, or the trickster in.
But anyway, what am I glad to see gone - smoking.

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Pay toilets are definitely not disappearing in my opinion, if anything they are becoming more prevalent.

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They're still around in lots of countries, mostly in the form of pay the attendant, or put a coin in the slot before you even get into the restroom. I know since I've visited 33 countries on five continents.

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PS Not bragging there. Okay, maybe a little.

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The idea that people should have to pay to take a dump is astounding to me.

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> The idea that people should have to pay to take a dump is astounding to me.

Yeah. Barbaric. I guess the logic was that you were paying for the toilet paper you used.

Other countries do it differently. In 1991 I vacationed in Tokyo and Kyoto. They didn't have pay toilets, but many public restrooms didn't have toilet paper. You were expected to bring your own. When you bought something at a store, often the store would toss in a little packet with a few sheets of TP as a gift.

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Aren’t pay toilets usually kept cleaner than free public toilets since there is a profit incentive to keep them maintained?

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I have no idea. I haven't been in a pay toilet in over forty years. I don't recall them being cleaner, though. I don't think there's much of a profit incentive though -- people who use them do it because at that moment they have to, not because they particularly want to.

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I noticed that in China. You quickly learned to have TP or tissues or something with you at all times.

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This man could not pay the fee

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d28b2_-9aQM

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Smoking areas in restaurants

Tickets at Disney and other theme parks

Rotary phones

Not having the internet to look up information on the spot

Using encyclopedias to look up simple facts.

Doing any sort of scholarly research without the internet. Having to hunt down rare or missing sources on dusty dark bookshelves

Typewriters

Mimeograph machines.

Paper maps. Driving to new places without a GPS. Having to use folding maps

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> Paper maps. Driving to new places without a GPS. Having to use folding maps

I've got a Rand-McNally paper road atlas in my car, just in case my Garmin unit fails. But I love having the Garmin talk me to where I want to go. You can customize the Garmin's voice by loading in a different voice database or creating your own. There's a rumor that someone out there hacked the Garmin software so that it not only changed the voice but also the statements it makes, then created a voicepack which incorporated Joe Pesci's movie lines -- "You only exist out here because of ME!" -- including many of his most profane ones. I'd love to have that but have never been able to find it, or even confirm that it exists.

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Mimeograph machines? Smelling that paper with the purple print was one of the joys of grade school. :-)

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LOL -- been a long time, but from what I recall it was a free, legal high

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LOL!

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I remember the smoking areas in restaurants. They were pretty much ineffective because the pollution from the smoking section would drift into the rest of the dining area.

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I'm a New Yorker and I hate, hate HATED subway graffiti. It was nowhere as cool and arty as hipsters make it out to be with their stupid Urban Outfitter books. Riding in a subway car felt like you were riding in a trash can. I was so happy when the trains were all replaced.

I'm also glad that pay phones are gone. I can't speak for anyone else, but in NYC they were always broken/jammed and unsanitary. I was always afraid of catching something because of how many people used them.

I agree with others about smoking in public areas. One of my most enduring memories as a kid was my father taking me inside some place, and the air was just thick with smoke.

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We rarely seem to get along but I agree with you on this

I'm not a fan of the rampant NYC Graffiti either, it's vandalism and is not 'Art'

It's damaging public and private property and it is nonsense

Schools in New York City buy colored pens and sketchbooks for kids for a reason, it's a good expenditure of money

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I totally agree on graffiti. It's vandalism! The one exception is Banksy in the UK. His is art.

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> I'm a New Yorker and I hate, hate HATED subway graffiti. It was nowhere as cool and arty as hipsters make it

I hate graffiti, period. It's vandalism, period. Most of it is as ugly as the hairballs my cat coughs up from time to time. And I think the hipsters who say that business owners are supposed to let graffiti on their buildings stand as is, calling it "urban art" or whatever term they use, are utterly full of shit.

> I'm also glad that pay phones are gone.

Cell phones are a mixed blessing. They are cheap and convenient. On the other hand, carrying one around means the government can track your whereabouts 24/7. And while I'm no lawyer, from what I understand the government can use them to listen in to what's going on around you, using them as microphones, without your knowledge and without a warrant. When I'm driving I frequently use a Faraday bag to block the signal. I figure that as long as I'm obeying the law, how I live my life is none of Uncle Sam's business.

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vcrs/vhs/vinyl/cassettes

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YOU MONSTER.😮

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just flush it all away.

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VCRS AND VHS ARENT GONE...THEY JUST LIVE WITH ME NOW.🙂

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Vinyl is still around. More popular than CDs

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they are gone from my life. my guess is they will disappear again when people realize how delicate and bulky they are.

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> vcrs/vhs/vinyl/cassettes

Yeah ... except I've still got a ton of old VHS tapes. Things I recorded and wanted to save. I rarely look at them but I do watch one occasionally. If my VCR ever breaks it wouldn't be that much of a loss, but I don't know if you can buy a new one these days.

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Hair curlers. Used to sleep on them every night during high school in the 60's. We used little foam pads underneath the rollers so they didn't hurt as much.

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My Mom always said, 'it hurts to be beautiful '.

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I love that.

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Ouch!

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- Floppy disks.

- These things: https://homereference.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/glass-brick-wall.jpg

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> Floppy disks.

My first PC was an IBM 8086. Along with a 24 pin dot matrix printer, it was a gift from my parents when I entered grad school. The PC had no hard drive, no graphics card, two 5-1/4 floppies, and 256 KB of RAM. It was state-of-the-art for those days and cost them about $1000. Ah, the good old days!

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And now I complain when someone hands me a 16GB flash drive and get mad when my browser doesn't load the page in less than 3 seconds.

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Interesting how you can easily spend more than $1000 on a computer these days, but they sure do a lot more than they did back then.

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I haven't bought a PC off the shelf in over a decade. I buy the different parts -- motherboard, CPU, etc -- and build my own. It's not terribly hard to do, and I can get exactly what I want instead of what some computer company thinks is a good fit for the "average user." The first two I did cost about $400 each, but I used a keyboard, mouse, and monitor I already had. Those were adequate but slow, and when software and such progressed and demanded more they were dead ends. About six years ago I got sick of the slow performance and put $3000 into this PC. It's blazing fast, but I also planned it so there are several different ways to upgrade performance further. For example, it's got 32 GB of RAM but I can bump that up to 128 GB if I ever need to. As of now it's still more than enough for my needs. It should last quite a while longer, and although $3000 sounds like a lot, by the end of its life I'll probably have paid $200/year.

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I wish I had the knowledge and skills to build my own. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yes, I'm at the mercy of the computer companies.

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> I wish I had the knowledge and skills to build my own.

It's not hard to do. The components are standardized -- for example, most full size desktop PC motherboards and cases conform to the "ATX standard," which means you can use any such motherboard and case together and they'll fit each other. Also, only the parts which actually physically connect with each other have to be compatible. For example, the CPU and RAM don't connect with each other but instead both plug into the motherboard at different places, so you don't have to worry about the CPU and RAM being compatible with each other -- the motherboard takes care of that.

You can also buy "barebone kits" from some vendors. Usually those consist of a case, motherboard, CPU, RAM, hard drive, and power supply. The vendor has already verified that those all work together, so you just assemble them yourself, add a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, and you're done. Now, the downside of a barebone kit is this. The vendor usually offers it that way because there's some inventory item that's not selling quickly enough, say, a particular hard drive, and by coupling it with all that other hardware they can get it moving out of the warehouse. Before buying a barebone kit, ask yourself, "are the components I really want out of this set worth the overall price?"

But you don't have to buy a barebone kit to make use of it. When a vendor offers something like that for sale, they implicitly warrant that those items do work together. Once, when building a PC for a friend, I bought a CPU and motherboard which I was unsure were compatible. I bought them because the vendor had them listed for sale as a combo. The listing said the combo was discontinued, but it was still there in the online catalog. When they arrived, I found that my suspicions were correct, they weren't compatible. The online listing had a typo in it, the CPU that was compatible with this motherboard had a slightly different model number. I phoned the vendor, told them what had happened, and said, "I'd like to direct your attention to your catalog item number XXXXX. It's discontinued, but it's still up on your site, implying you did sell these things together at one time. I relied upon that as your implied guarantee that this CPU and motherboard are compatible --" The agent immediately cut me off and said, "OK, you get a full refund." Any reputable business will honor that obligation.

I bought a barebone kit for my very first PC build. I haven't bought one since, because as I said, there's usually some part in the kit that I don't really want and it's not worth the money. But if I see one for sale, or a CPU/motherboard combo, or some other such thing, I'll buy the particular items from that vendor for that reason; the vendor has warrantied them as compatible. But you don't really need that information that way. Mostly it's a matter of downloading the manual for the motherboard and checking everything against that. And of course, once your vendor sees that you're ready to fork over some cash, they'll be very helpful in answering your questions about parts being compatible.

What tools are required? From what I remember, a full set of screwdrivers, but little more than that. If you've got just the ordinary person's collection of tools, not a professional handyman's, you'll be fine. You do need to rig up some arrangement to ensure that you and all the PC parts are electrically grounded as you work with them. PC components are far more resistant to static electricity than they used to be, but static shock is still a hazard.

If you build a low end PC, all the components should be small enough that everything will fit togehter with plenty of spare room. Higher end PCs can be a little more complicated. When I built this one, I spent about an hour getting the CPU fan mounted -- the socket had such a tight tolerance that the screws had to drop in exactly right, and I kept jiggling the thing around trying to get the screws to drop in where they should, until by luck they did. And if you plan on using a full size video card, you'll need to verify that the case is big enough to take it. But on the whole, building a PC is no more difficult than changing a car tire.

For a long time I went to Tiger Direct for my computer parts. Their service was very reliable and the salespeople were good to work with. Then they outsourced some of their fulfillment to third party vendors, and some parts I ordered took weeks to arrive. I don't know if they still have that problem, I've used Newegg since then. But both companies stand behind their service and will treat you right if things go wrong.

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