By the way, here's a sub-movie AND at least POTENTIAL real-life question, and I have been thinking about all of this along those lines in the past 5-6 years, and not JUST from the point of view of law and morality, but just in and of itself, from the point of view of THEORY, as well as opinions and reactions. Without being too or even just intentionally controversial or facetious or off-putting or insulting, well, I would like to ask this.
Do you, as a PERSON, i.e. a HUMAN BEING, whether you're a guy or girl, no matter your nationality etc, well, do you see women who do something wrong, to men for instance, and men doing the same or similar offense, to woman or other men, etc, a matter of being on the order of TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN?
And does it really frustrate you badly when, in MOVIES for instance, there is even a SUGGESTION that there may be some or other kind of difference, even if such "difference" may not exactly exist in reality?
But then, in FILMS for instance, bar the tragic harsh reality of REAL LIFE, there are certain particular patterns and traditions, and I think some people at least CAN understand why say men being villains and doing horrible things and then they get defeated is at least accepted as normal, whereas if women step into the arena and turn to dark sides, there are some or even a lot of potential controversies. But in SOME cases at least, well, there can sadly be a potential discussion on the order of "oh, this movie was saying that because an attractive chick did this, it isn't considered as horribly heinous" but is that even the case necessarily, and are we meant to take it SERIOUSLY and well, you catch my drift, do we REALLY have these, well, STEREOTYPES here and there and is it just a matter of human nature, or villains perhaps winning, even if not men?
But then also strange - even if the woman was attractive, in real life, I wouldn't want to be, well, a victim under her hands like in those movie scenarios EITHER, and no means
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TheMan18 (13016)
4 years ago
no, right?
Interestingly ALSO, regardless of what I do or don't think, but I like to think I think on the correct line on the horizon, even if there are also HARSH realities to be found in real life, but often when I participated in similar online discussions and even got involved, I at times started to feel put off and empty and indulged in way too much wishful thinking but then, I started to feel fed up with people ARGUING constantly and just decided to come to my own CONCLUSIONS.
Oh and with people and relatives in my youth I almost NEVER spoke about that kind of stuff, and nowadays, they are mostly not in the mood either but in general they agree and understand.
As an in-joke, I am soon, and I have seen it, going to watch the cult German psychological horror film "Der Fan" (1982) which involved an attractive young chick who got totally crazy over her obsession with a male musical artist, with horrifying results from HER and ON HIM, and its a very good movie by the way, and despite that aspect (although there are OTHER controversial aspects to it TOO), I didn't feel it "glorified" what it showed either. 8/10 for The Fan (Der Fan).
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CheekyMonkey (584)
4 years ago
When I see someone do something wrong on screen, or in reality, there is a sense that it is wrong, regardless of their identity (man or woman). But at the same time, context matters. Men and women are different after all, physically and emotionally, so it's interesting to see how this dynamic can be different depending on context.
I think with female villains, especially the attractive ones, there is the two competing elements, the beauty that draws you in, but also the knowledge that her evilness/danger pushes you away... So that tension can be interesting in cinema...
You don't want it in real life!
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