what would be the first thing on your mind??? https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/1579a213-5b6c-471d-92a9-555e2e7a1890_1.23a3aceb6d84a61759fe5e050dbd0f50.jpeg?odnWidth=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff
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shareLook like someone's on their way to the bowling alley:
https://youtu.be/xMW-SzZKJ-Q?t=252
I went to university with a woman who chose to wear the full burka with the niqab, and she had a sister who didn't wear any religious clothing at all. She still dressed a little modestly, but didn't cover her hair or anything. It really is a choice for a lot of Muslim women. Other than covering the face is that picture much different than a nun's habit?
share"Other than covering the face is that picture much different than a nun's habit?"
It most certainly is VERY different.
How so?
shareHonestly, it's very obvious to me. It's not like the covering of the face is just a tiny, little difference. The face is pretty much the most important part of our appearance and therefore our identity. It's what sets us apart from other people and stresses our individuality. It's also one of the main communication tools in social human interaction.
As for the nun's habit, most modern nuns show a lot more skin and shape than that: ankles, underarms, waist, neck, face, even some hair. A lot of nuns today choose to not even wear the habit. And another very important difference, nuns don't cover themselves up just because they're women, but because they made the decision to join a religious order. Men who join a religious order do pretty much the same thing. The ideology behind a niqab is very radical and you can definitely expect someone who chooses to wear one in the West to support extremist views. Most muslim women in the world don't even wear it.
Many modern nuns wear the same type of clothing you would see worn by a professional woman who works in an office or at a bank. They often wear a necklace with a cross, and some might have a small veil that covers only the top and back of their heads.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/23/01/27E0C1C800000578-0-image-m-24_1429750039214.jpg
I don't expect someone who wears a full niqab to support extremist views.
There are many modern Muslim women in the west who don't go for the full cover. There are also nuns who still wear the traditional habit. The similarities are that they both cover themselves for their god. Yes, many Muslim women are forced into it, I'm not saying that that never happens. We know it does. There have also been many women forced into convents across history.
I don't agree with either one, but I'm not going to assume that I know the why anyone does anything.
I honestly think you don't truly understand the meaning of the niqab. You make it seem like it's simply a matter of taste. But it's controversial even in the muslim world. The average muslim woman would never wear one because it represents a radical ideology. It wouldn't simply be an assumption on your part, it's a message they want you to get loud and clearly.
I really don't care about history. It's about what's happening NOW. Even nuns who wear a traditional habit don't cover up their face so men won't feel seduced by them.
Oh I do. My best friend grew up in Riyadh and Bahrain. I also understand that not everyone woman who wears the niqab is an extremist. I understand that a lot who do, are extreme in their religious views.
What I understand is that I'm not going to automatically judge without more knowledge. That was my point with sharing the story of the woman from my school. Not everything is black and white.
I hate the niqab honestly. It makes me feel uncomfortable. That doesn't mean that I hate the person wearing it. I don't think that my comparison to a traditional nun's habit is unfair either. Nuns, and I'm not referring to only sisters, wear the habit to distinguish themselves, in modestly, in their devotion to their god. The niqab, or burka is really the same thing. Yes it is seen as extreme especially in the west, mostly because the wearing of them now comes from a reactionary movement within Sunni Muslims to the west.
Unless the woman is forced to wear a niqab, then their views most certainly are extremist. It represents a radical interpretation of the Quran,(which doesn't even require women to wear a face covering). In the West even more so BECAUSE it's part of a reactionary movement. I certainly wouldn't give someone dressed in a white hood the benefit of the doubt.
I already explained why it's unfair. Not only are they constantly modernizing the nun's habit, it doesn't cover the face for the sake of non-related men who might be turned on. The habits of nuns and monks are a sign of modesty, but the idea is to not give in to vanity instead of avoiding any kind of arousal in the other sex.
And what exactly distinguishes women who wear a niqab from other muslim women except for their own sense of moral superiority? At least nuns are different in that they completely dedicate their lives to the service of their god and other christians.
First of all, you don't know what motivates those who are nuns, or those who wear a burka or a niqab. So you don't know which nuns are nuns for which reason. I'm sure there are a few who did choose that life for reasons of moral superiority.
shareI'm not talking about motivations of the individual, but the idea behind the clothing, the reason why its expected from these women to wear what they wear.
The intention of the habit of the nun is to make clear to other christians what her role is in christian society. It's like a police uniform or a doctor's coat.
A muslim woman is expected to dress modestly, but a woman who wears the niqab, wears it because a more simple covering is not considered good enough. There's nothing else that distinguishes these women from other muslim women.
For the life of me I can not comprehend why anyone would defend the niqab, the worst of religious veilings after the burqa.
It's VERY different!
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More of a command, not so much a choice for women.
Iranian women before & after 1979: https://youtu.be/BNdZso7ek2s
Iran Before and After Islamic Revolution: https://youtu.be/Ue2-fF7tMxw
Iran 1976: https://youtu.be/VL3iY38eInA
The argument that some women in the West CHOOSE to wear a niqab is kind of meaningless when the majority of women in the world are FORCED to wear it.
shareFrom hearing views of ex Muslim women living in the west, I get the impression many are bullied/expected to dress up by males of the family.
shareWell, the normal hijab. I would say that the niqab is mostly worn here by radicalized women who were born in the West and even without a muslim background. Britain might be different with so many immigrants from regions with a very extremist form of islam.
shareInterestingly, all our Persian clients have UK passports dated 1979.
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shareOH...ITS A LADY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.
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