So these were announced yesterday as part of phase 4 of the MCU:
"Black Widow" - May 1, 2020
"Eternals" - Nov 6, 2020
"Falcon & The Winter Soldier" - Fall 2020
"Shang Chi" - Feb 12, 2021
"Wanda Vision" - Spring 2021
"Loki" - Spring 2021
"Doctor Strange 2" - May 7, 2021
"What If..." -Summer 2021
"Hawkeye" - Fall 2021
"Thor 4" - Nov 5, 2021
"Blade" - TBD
(Others were mentioned without dates.)
It was ridiculous before but this is just flat-out absurdity. The oversaturation of superhero and its sad attempt to put them into phases is a detriment to the film industry. If one movie fails, the studio doesn't worry because they have another film coming out in a few months and everyone will forget about it. Disney will never take a chance with directors like Paul Thomas Anderson, Peter Weir or Cameron Crowe and finance good, original non-superhero content.
They just go for the superhero and big budget content because they know it will break bank. This is the equivalent of when you have to write an essay about a life changing event and you write about someone you know who died because you know it's a topic that will give you an easy A. Take chances, Disney. There are many people out there who have original ideas who are waiting for the chance.
i absolutely love the mcu films myself, but even if i hated them, i wouldn't want to begrudge anyone else's enjoyment of them. there are lots & lots of films i don't care about, but those films have their audience & they are entitled to their preferences.
i actually think the mcu has been a really unique & quite remarkable achievement - 23 films in a fairly brisk 10 year period, almost all of them good, some of them genuinely great.
i don't think that's anything to be dismissed lightly. & the fact that so many other studios have tried to pull off the same trick with much less success, & flat out failure in some cases, shows that there's really nothing simple or easy about what they've done.
these are not challenging films, but they are large scale, enormously expensive films that have pleased audiences & been as a whole enormously profitable.
i certainly want there to be all kinds of movies. i want to be able to see films from pta & guy maddin & s craig zahler & gaspar noe as long as i'm alive and have my marbles. but i understand that it's not disney that's going to scratch that itch for me, & i don't mind that they produce mass-marketed, broadly popular films. it's also worth remember that this was a company that produced an awful lot of nonsense that nobody really liked much for a long time - computers wearing tennis shoes, the black hole, cats from outer space, an awful lot of dreary nonsense. they've turned things around by actually making films people want to see.
but i think what the mcu may represent is perhaps the last gasp of the theatrical experience as a large scale event that lots & lots of people go to see. it was the case that movie-going was probably the major passtime of the american consumer, & that's not the case anymore. these kind of event films may be the only way to get consumers out to theatres en masse in our era, and who knows how much longer this will remain effective?
& it's also worth remembering that about 50% of films don't make back their budget - & the films that i tend to like myself almost certainly fall overwhelmingly into the group that are not profitable. to a very large extent, the kinds of films i like, & maybe the kinds of films you like too, are subsidized & can only exist because of the existence of broadly popular, crowd-pleasing films.
yeah, i've heard 10-20% in terms of profitability.
i used the weasel-term 'make back their budget.'
i recently read a book on risk that had a chapter on the film industry, & it stated that 50% of films make less in box office revenue than their total budget, & the general assumption is most films need 2-3 times their budget cost in revenue.
the bottom line is that producing any individual film is an extremely risky undertaking. i certainly don't blame any given studio for being cautious & making explicitly commercial films. i certainly don't expect them to spend millions to make marxist terrorist art.
based on the little bit of reading i have done, my understanding is that lots & lots of the people in the film industry are (surprise surprise) enormous film fans who indeed love pta & euro-snob art films and all that kinda stuff. but they are also realists who have to try to get a return on their investor's money. i don't invest in things strictly out of artistic purity, & i wouldn't expect anyone else to.
But my kids love those movies, and frankly I see in their devotion the same love I felt for Star Wars back in the 80's. With that in mind I've watched every Avengers movie to date with my kids, and some of the movies are actually quite good IMHO. Like the first Iron Man movie, and Captain America: The First Avenger.
I don't mind a good superhero movie from time to time, but there are just way too many. Why not original kids movies or a completely original superhero movie?
Those movies are not ruled out at all. I should add that my two youngest sons' favorite movies are the Back To the Future trilogy, Stand By Me, and the original Ghostbusters movie. I might be somewhat responsible for that...! 🙄
Nothing wrong with putting movies like that in your kids' life. I do the same thing with my niece and nephew. I showed them Jurassic Park and The Goonies and they liked it. It gets them away from animated movies.
I grew up reading comic books (Marvel and DC) but I can't stand these movies. To me the characters don't even look right being played by Hollywood stars. The films pander to crowds that wouldn't have been caught dead reading comic books if they were born and raised in an earlier era.
They all feel like a potential waste of time. If someone gave me $20 to go see a Marvel movie, I would take that money and buy some old Marvel comics with the same characters instead.
I don't support these movies but I can't really predict any of them to be duds. People are crazy over them.
In my wildest dreams I never would have imagined Guardians of the Galaxy being a successful franchise. I always thought that particular series of comics was B level at best. And then it goes on to be a major film franchise in its own right. So that goes to show you what I know. Same for Doctor Strange.