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USAID Ended Apartheid Explains Musk Revenge Attack!


South African racist Afrikaaner Elon Musk is destroying USAID because it was instrumental in ending apartheid.
https://adst.org/2021/06/american-peoples-foreign-policy-usaids-role-in-apartheid-south-africa/

White supremacists Trump and Musk are also attacking South Africa by pulling all US aid.

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Yeah, that's it. It's not fraud or wanton wasteful spending on nonsense. It's white supremacy. Anything you don't like is white supremacy. Isn't this the kind of bullshit that just lost you shits the last election? Keep up the good work!

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Musk Nazi salutes you.

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I get it. You must be one of those foreign trannies that USAID created.

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South Africa openly discriminates against white people. Why would you ever want to fund that? You’re a sick person.

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Keelai is the worst of the anti-white racists on this board. We'd all be in camps if she had her way.

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I agree, she is a sick POS. She literally said that the victims of Hurricane Helene deserved to die because that community was mostly pro-Trump. I have never encountered a more hateful person in my life however I have a feeling she isn’t like this in real life. Just a gutless anonymous keyboard warrior.

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Nonsense. Whites love it in South Africa which is why they live there.

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The government openly stated they wanted to kill white people. They are human rights abusers and you are defending them. You might as well be defending the Nazis and the Klan put together.

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The government openly stated they wanted to kill white people


Where and when?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6--1jt4gF9Q&t=2262s

Skip to 9:54.

And you people want to fund this. Disgusting.

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Fair enough, such language is to be condemned.

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It’s not just “language” it’s pure hate and racism and a call for genocide.

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Even so facts on the ground do not reflect the language of a reprehensible hot head. Despite a global campaign to portray South Africa's once dominant white population as a victimised minority under attack, there is no reliable data to suggest farmers are at greater risk of being murdered than the average South African. Gareth Newham, head of the justice and violence prevention program at the Institute of Security Studies in South Africa, says that white farmers are most likely targeted because they are relatively wealthy and vulnerable because they live in remote areas, not because of their race.

"Far-right-wing groups in South Africa actively go to America and promulgate this idea of a white genocide because, of course, when you have a high murder rate, white people do get murdered," Newham said, adding that the proportion of white people murdered is lower than other race groups, not higher. And international media, which have amplified the idea that so-called farm murders are a major concern, has been oblivious to a key fact: in country with 20,000 murders a year, those of farmers are usually in two figures.

If anything, Trump’s suspension of aid and threat to stop AIDS funding may harm the white farmers whom he and Musk seek to defend. If Trump prevents money from helping things like HIV/AIDS or some of the more harsh consequences of poverty, those white commercial farmers are going to have much bigger problems with people living around them and their workforces. See how it will work?

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They are the victimized minority, the government is trying to seize white owned farms and calling for their genocide. You’re disgusting for trying to minimize this.

Just picture this, everything was the same except the races were swapped, you people would be having a fit and don’t you dare try to tell me that it’s different the other way because it isn’t. Hate is hate.

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As my answer above I think quite reasonably suggested, a sense of perspective and context is needed while still obviously condemning outright that hate speech. And genocide of whites is not SA government policy whatever you may think, and the idea is just not borne out by the homicide figures. If anything Trump's reduction on aid to the country, many of whose inhabitants live out a hand-to-mouth existence, is likely to increase their anger against whites and make the life of farmers even more difficult..

... if everything was the same except the races were swapped...


I would say exactly the same thing.

Once again: Unsubstantiated claims that such attacks on farmers disproportionately target whites are a key element of the white genocide conspiracy theory and have become a common talking point among white nationalists worldwide. There are no reliable figures that suggest that white farmers are being targeted in particular or that they are at a disproportionate risk of being killed, for reasons I have shown. The Government of South Africa and other analysts say that farm attacks are part of a broader crime problem in South Africa and do not have a racial motivation.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/opinion/south-africa-farm-attacks-not-racially-motivated/

In short the idea of a 'genocide against whites' in SA is itself ... racist.

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Oh I see so it’s Trump’s fault for not sending a fascist government more of our tax dollars. WTF is wrong with you? I posted clear evidence of the government calling for the genocide of white people. You are an intellectual coward for not denouncing it. Gotta love your libtard logic: If we don’t send South Africa our tax dollars then we are responsible for the consequences. That’s the definition of terrorism.

You would not say the same thing. You would be calling Trump Hitler (as per usual) for sending money to a country that persecutes black people. Quit lying you’re not fooling anyone.

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I posted clear evidence of the government calling for the genocide of white people.


And I gave your clear evidence as to why that offensive rhetoric is not matched by what is happening on the ground.

You are an intellectual coward for not denouncing it.

Not even just here, or earlier, when I said at once that the speaker "a reprehensible hothead... such language is to be condemned." ? Do you even read what I say very attentively? It doesn't look like it.

If we don’t send South Africa our tax dollars then we are responsible for the consequences.


If humanitarian aid is withdrawn then inevitably it has effects on the recipients.

That’s the definition of terrorism.


Terrorism: the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims. So no, it is not then.

You would not say the same thing. You would be calling Trump Hitler (as per usual) for sending money to a country that persecutes black people.


Wrong again. In fact I don't object to aid being sent to any country, whatever its internal politics, as long as it used for the humanitarian purpose intended.

Quit lying you’re not fooling anyone.


Don't judge everyone by your own standards. Why do you people always end up insulting others?

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You didn’t post anything that proved that. There is clear evidence that anti white racism is going on if you bothered to watch the rest of the video. Also the government calling for the extermination of white people should be troubling to you. What if Trump called for the extermination of black people? I have a feeling you people would impeach him within the hour. He’s more than a “reprehensible hot head” he’s an open racist who is calling for genocide. Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge and denounce anti-white racism and don’t dare come back with “I denounce all racism”.

Then you should blame the leaders of South Africa who started abusing human rights to the point that we can’t fund it anymore. Derp derp.

That’s not what I said, if Trump were sending money to a country that was calling for the extermination of black people you would again be calling for his impeachment. Stop denying it you coward.




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anti white racism is going on

You sound as if you approve of white racism.

don’t dare come back with “I denounce all racism”.

I denounce all racism. So you are wrong again.

Also the government calling for the extermination of white people should be troubling to you.

It is - which is why I condemn the rhetoric, as I have said and repeated. This statement of your approaches a strawman, attributing to me sentiments I do not have.

Then you should blame the leaders of South Africa who started abusing human rights to the point that we can’t fund it anymore.

Conservative Afrikaner pressure groups said they are concerned about US aid to South Africa being cut and that South Africa would be excluded from the African Growth and Opportunity Act. I don't deny that there are issues in SA but the US should be using its soft power to bring about change, not blaming from a distance while withdrawing help from the neediest.

As one can see though, rights and freedoms in SA are not poor as you would have it:

https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country

As others have said it is ironic that the executive order makes provision for refugee status in the US for a group in South Africa that remains amongst the most economically privileged, while vulnerable people in the US from other parts of the world are being deported and denied asylum despite real hardship

if Trump were sending money to a country that was calling for the extermination of black people you would again be calling for his impeachment


As I already said I don't, and wouldn't, object to aid being sent to any country, whatever its internal politics, as long as it used for the humanitarian purpose intended and not to prop up a regime or its racial policies.

you coward.

Oh dear.

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WTF are you talking about? Show me one quote where I endorsed white racism?

I predicted you’d say that, I didn’t ask you about “all racism”. I asked you to address the anti-white racism in South Africa and denounce it and you continue to pussy out.

Anyways since you allegedly denounce all racism that means you shouldn’t want to fund it meaning Trump did the right thing in cutting off funding to South Africa. Correct? If you are mad about what Trump did then you don’t denounce all racism, you want to fund some racism.

Anyone who is being hurt by the US cutting off funding should blame their political leaders. Trump is not responsible for the citizens of South Africa, he is responsible for making sure our tax dollars don’t fund genocide.

You coward.

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Show me one quote where I endorsed white racism?


Your earlier "There is clear evidence that anti white racism is going on" can be read as "I don't approve of being against white racists". Maybe better punctuation?

Trump is not responsible for the citizens of South Africa, he is responsible for making sure our tax dollars don’t fund genocide.



As I said to you earlier, the idea that there is a 'white genocide' conspiracy by blacks in SA is a right wing racist trope.

I asked you to address the anti-white racism in South Africa and denounce it and you continue to pussy out.

I denounced that hot head speaker twice now. Please pay attention.
Anyways since you allegedly denounce all racism that means you shouldn’t want to fund it meaning Trump did the right thing in cutting off funding to South Africa. Correct? .. you want to fund some racism.

The notion that international aid "funds racism" in SA is all yours. It did not fund land expropriation for instance - the basis of Trump's short sighted withdrawal. And stop projecting.

You coward.

Oh dear. Back to the insults.

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Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension. I made myself abundantly clear.

It’s not a “right wing racist trope”, it’s a very real thing and I showed you proof of it. And that’s pretty fucked up, it’s racist now to be against racism against whites? WTF is wrong with you?

Calling for the death of white people is not “hot headedness”, it’s pure hate. You’re a coward.

Actually it does, we were sending money straight to the political leaders who were calling for white genocide.

You coward. Also grow up and get over it.

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Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension. I made myself abundantly clear.

As I say perhaps punctuation could be done more carefully?

It’s not a “right wing racist trope”, it’s a very real thing

Oh dear.

https://gjia.georgetown.edu/2023/05/12/from-satanism-to-genocide-moral-panic-and-white-supremacy-in-south-africa/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/south-africa-racist-white-farmers-trump-musk-genocide-ramaphosa-rcna190749

https://theconversation.com/trump-and-south-africa-what-is-white-victimhood-and-how-is-it-linked-to-white-supremacy-249648

https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/the-myth-of-white-genocide-in-south-africa/

etc etc

I am not saying that everything is perfect in SA and, with their history, there is no racial tension and related problems. The land expropriation is badly done and explained to be sure. However, the law in question does not allow for land to be seized arbitrarily and there has to be an agreement with the owner. Any land expropriations would still also have to go through South Africa's independent courts. But let's have a sense of proportion. Using words and references like 'genocide' is just irresponsible.

I showed you proof of it.

You showed part of a reprehensible speech which, rightly, we both condemn. I very helpfully put it in perspective.

You’re a coward.

Oh dear. And you sound like a curmudgeon.

we were sending money straight to the political leaders


Actually as far as I can tell, it is actually NGAs who get it. Sorry about that.
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/these-are-the-south-african-companies-that-benefited-from-usaid-525ca371-2ba2-42f7-813b-e1d810eb7437

Having said that, it is apparently the case that, with the exception of PEPFAR Aid, which constitutes 17% of South Africa's HIV/AIDS programme, there is no other funding that is received by South Africa from the United States.

And grow up and get over it yourself. Thank you for playing.

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Or maybe you could just work on your reading comprehension. My post was very clear and easy to understand.

I just posted evidence of the government calling for the genocide of white people. The fact that you won’t take a stand above calling him a hot head is beyond disturbing.

The US has no obligation to send any money to South Africa. President Trump does on the other hand have an obligation to the US tax payers to not fund genocide which Brandon and Kamala were clearly OK with.

If you people had your way white people would be in death camps by now.

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"Oh dear" skavau, at it again.

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Oh dear indeed: chilone still trolling, as he has nothing else to contribute.

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Skavau/filmfaneur is openly defending genocide. I can’t even begin to explain how evil that is.

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filmfaneur is openly defending genocide


Please quote where I do that. What I have actually done is to deny that in SA 'white genocide' is a thing and told you why.

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Oh dear.

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No quote exampled then, oh dear indeed.

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You reduced the government calling for the extermination of white people as a “hot headed” comment.

Also on a side note, you transitioned your daughter you sick POS.

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You reduced the government calling for the extermination of white people as a “hot headed” comment.


And you inflated it to a representation of actual white 'genocide'.

Also on a side note, you transitioned your daughter you sick POS.


And on your side note; that was a very low punch, even for you. If you had actually read that thread you would see that he was an adult when he transitioned, on his own cognizance, and is now happily married, validated and well balanced. It's you people who are sad and disordered, not those who try and make a better life for themselves, or those who support them.

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I called it like it was.

And your daughter is still a she no matter what you do. She still doesn’t have a Y chromosome no matter if she cuts her breasts off or not. What are you going to do if the day comes that she decides she isn’t a boy? I actually know what you’ll do, you will not admit you were wrong because that would mean you ruined your daughter’s life. A girl who thinks she is a boy has a mental delusion, the absolute worst thing you can do is validate it. Over Christmas my 4 year old nephew came up to me and said he was a dinosaur but you know what I did? I didn’t immediately take him to a paleontologist and had Dino DNA injected inside of him.

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Sad.

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Oh dear.

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Oh dear; you're a transphobe.

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Not agreeing that your daughter is a man is “transphobic”?

You’re a child groomer.

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Not agreeing that your daughter is a man is “transphobic”?


No, saying things like "A girl who thinks she is a boy has a mental delusion, the absolute worst thing you can do is validate it." is transphobic.

You’re a child groomer.

Now you are just being gratuitously offensive even after I have explained things and you are using my family against me, which is contemptible. So that's all from me here too, transphobe.

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It’s not “transphobic” in fact between the two of us I am the only one who actually cares about your daughter. Thinking you are the other gender is a mental delusion, it would be like me thinking I’m a Martian, it’s absurd.
As for your second paragraph you need to quit feeling sorry for yourself and quit playing the victim. You transitioned your daughter and she now has to live with the consequences. You never answered my question, what are you going to do if the day comes that she decides she’s not a man? Man up and answer the question, groomer

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Also I agree it is sad. The situation you put your daughter in is unforgivable.

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Didn't care to read what I said, did you? That he was an adult when he transitioned, and on his own cognizance?

You don't know the circumstances and you probably don't know any transgender people. You certainly don't know any empathy or decency towards those different from you. That's all from me. Know that.

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I have plenty of empathy. I am very empathetic to the children who were manipulated by parents, teachers, counselors, etc. that their depression was the result of them being the other gender and were therefore manipulated into chemically castrating themselves and getting life altering surgeries that cannot be reversed.

Also it’s your daughter, not your son. Your daughter still doesn’t have a Y chromosome.

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I just posted evidence of the government calling for the genocide of white people. The fact that you won’t take a stand above calling him a hot head [blah]


Not even when I specifically said I condemned it and say it was reprehensible?

. President Trump does on the other hand have an obligation to the US tax payers to not fund genocide... If you people had your way white people would be in death camps by now.


Please see my previous answers in regards to this supposed 'white genocide' in SA, a right wing trope. Unsubstantiated claims that such attacks on farmers disproportionately target whites are a key element of the white genocide conspiracy theory. However, there are no reliable figures that suggest that white farmers are being targeted in particular or that they are at a disproportionate risk of being killed. The last time of telling you as it appears not to sink in.

White genocide is a political myth based on pseudoscience, pseudohistory, and ethnic hatred, driven by a psychological panic often termed "white extinction anxiety". Objectively, white people are simply not dying out or facing extermination.

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KingBob you’ve made a valiant attempt to reason with Flimflam, but it will always be ultimately futile.

Flimflam’s loyalty is to the cult of the Left, the same cult that persuaded him to hack off his daughter’s healthy breasts and mutilate her into some hideous approximation of a ‘man’.

He will defend the cult and all its evil tenets to the death for to accept its true nature would be to admit that he has become a child abuser, and that is intolerable.

You can employ as much reason and empathy as you like but you might as well be talking to a brick wall. Flimflam’s only goal is to infect you with the same morally insane mind virus that corrupted him, and if he can’t do that… to waste your time and exhaust your patience.

When dealing with a Leftist, remember Father Merrin’s words to Father Karras in The Exorcist:

“Especially important is the warning to avoid conversations with the demon. We may ask what is relevant but anything beyond that is dangerous. He is a liar. The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us. But he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. The attack is psychological, Damien, and powerful. So don’t listen to him. Remember that – do not listen.”


I wrote more about the demonic nature of the Left here: https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/67ae05d0ce430e3bae717ab1/The-Left-and-The-Exorcist

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Thank you, but unfortunately much like Keeliar, Filmflam is a hateful bigot who is actively calling for the extermination of white people. He/She literally said that the South Africa leaders calling for genocide was a “hot headed” comment. Almost as pathetic as Brandon calling 7-13 “inappropriate” just like two boys making fart noises at the dinner table.

Don’t ever forget that you are morally superior to these people and that you don’t owe them anything. Libtards are in the backseat now where they belong and you don’t owe them common respect. You cannot be civil with these people and I am of the opinion of show them no mercy for you shall receive none.

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Oh yeah, anti-white racism is a cornerstone of Leftism. Flimflam is pushing it because that’s what the cult demands, and he will do anything to defend the cult that made him butcher his daughter.

Because if the cult is wrong then when he looks in the mirror he will accurately see a child abuser, and he cannot have that. Ever.

You cannot be civil with these people and I am of the opinion of show them no mercy for you shall receive none.

Well said. We all tried civility with the Left and they just abused it to claw their way to power. They saw our generosity of spirit as weakness to be exploited. Now they’re fucked. Subhuman filth.

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Wait, Filmfag transitioned his daughter? Was his daughter a minor? WTF is wrong with him? That is literally child abuse. He mutilated his daughter’s body and it’s completely irreversible. Turns out the whole trans fad was short lived and he can just move on with his life but his poor daughter cannot and has to live with the consequences.

Exactly, never ever forget how they acted the past decade, they don’t deserve remorse or mercy. The minute you let your guard down they will exploit it for their own benefit.

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Yep, I made a whole thread about it, asking if he should be in prison:

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/6798df6736d4a37184093960/Should-filmflaneur-be-in-prison

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Oh dear.

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Stop calling me 'dear', I keep asking you.

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That you were unaware of that incident, tens of thousands of black South Africans publicly calling for the murder of white South Africans, is testement to your insular world and the echo chamber in which you reside.

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The fact that you play on the appalling words of one hothead rather than looking at the facts on the ground shows how well your echo chamber works too. Any 'white genocide' is a just another right wing trope.

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Nonsense. Stop spreading your KKK lies. Whites love it in South Africa.

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Completely factual, South Africa wants to murder whites and you are OK with it.

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Link to credible source.

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See below. I’m also not citing Matt Walsh, I’m citing the words of the South African leaders

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I personally know several South Africans, white and Jewish, who left, never to return, because of the anti-white violence you gleefully cheer on.

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Europeans don't want Africans in Europe. Why do you want Europeans in Africa? You're a hypocrite.

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So because of alleged discrimination in Europe (which you have yet to substantiate) that makes it alright to call for the genocide of white people in Africa? wtf is wrong with you? You are the most hateful bigot I’ve ever encountered

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Stop trolling and gaslighting! It's boring.

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You’re such a coward, won’t even denounce genocide against white people. You’re sick.

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You're the trolling, gaslighting PROVEN liar and everyone knows it.

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I am all for repatriating all White South Africans back to Europe or the U.S. as long as we can also repatriate all blacks back to Africa.

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Only after all whites everywhere are repatriated back to Europe.

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Wouldn't everyone eventually end up in Africa if we play by those rules? Or is it Asia now; I can't keep up with that sort of thing.

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In theory, yes — but not quite. While all humans share a common ancestor that originated in Africa, Whites and Asians interbred with Neanderthals, diverging significantly from sub-Saharan Africans, who mixed with other, still unidentified archaic hominins. These genetic differences, I believe, have played a crucial role in shaping intelligence and other defining traits found in non-Africans. Over millennia, they influenced the development of civilizations, which is why our people built advanced societies while sub-Saharan Africans are still struggling to figure out how the wheel works. We are simply different. If we are to consider these evolutionary distinctions, then it follows that Whites belong in Europe, Asians in Asia, and blacks in Africa.

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That's right. I tend to forget those details.

And as far as North America, maybe we can meet Keelai in the middle and allow the Indians to recolonize it just long enough for them to cover the continent before Europeans invade and reconquer it all.

Keelai if you're reading this, do we have a deal?

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I'm not opposed to this idea in theory — I’d have no objection to all White people living in Europe. However, as we’ve discussed many times, the United States is also a White country. It belongs to Europeans, who settled the land, civilized it, founded the nation, and built it into what it is today. It was quite literally created by them, for them. There is no reason they should surrender it.

And if we’re being honest, what would actually be accomplished if everyone who isn't ‘from here’ left the U.S.? The country would be virtually empty — save for a few million Native Americans with no government infrastructure to sustain them. They’d be left to return to a pre-modern existence — hunting buffalo just to survive. Does that sound like a productive use of this vast continent?

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The Americas belong to the Indigenous groups - not Europeans. I suggest you consult a map.

I'm only pointing out that you (pl.) are self-unaware when complaining about non-Europeans in Europe since there are plenty of Europeans in the Americas, Asia, Africa, etc..

Don't complain about others when you're doing the same exact thing!

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No, it does not belong to the so-called Indigenous. They were savage nomads — no better than animals, with no concept of land ownership — and they themselves were migrants, having crossed over from Asia at some point. They are not ‘native’ to anything. The land rightfully belongs to those who settled it, founded a nation, and built what we now call the United States — White Europeans.

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You've watched too many John Wayne movies and need to open books and read them about the multiple Indigenous civilizations, cities, confederations which influenced our constitution and government as well as contributions in agriculture and medicine.

Your racist ignorance is the reason that white male history shouldn't be the only thing taught in schools.

Anyway, all Europeans, including yourself, need to return to Europe in order to avoid being called hypocrites.

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Lead the way, then, you hypocrite.

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White male history is the only history that matters — everything else is just a footnote.

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Nonsense!

You're only admitting that you don't know history.

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"all Europeans need to return to Europe"

When are you leaving, Keelai? Post a link to your listing when you get a chance. Or are you a renter?

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The whole reason these sick fucks wanted to end Apartheid is because they know the White people would be slaughtered eventually.

Sick and evil people that support genocide.

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More Kee-lies and more propaganda.

USAID had nothing to do with ending the paper version of apartheid.

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☁️⛅☁️☁️

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Where is evidence of either of them being racists? And don't trot out all the thoroughly debunked stuff, liar.

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Just yesterday, YouTuber SerpentZA, a native white South African, posted this video about the appalling conditions whites are subjected to in S.A. Tell us how it's a lie, flimflam. Tell us how those video clips of black Africans calling for the murder of whites is doctored or cherry picked. Read the comment section and call all those people liars, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqTUkcpFmFw

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I haven't denied violence against whites (and violence generally) is not a problem in SA. I have also shown how low the homicide rate against whites is (annually in two figures out of a total of 22,000) so there is no 'genocide' and why white farms are attacked (often for reasons of location and wealth, not primarily race). I have also condemned the language of those who call for murder. There's not much else I can do really.

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Musk is not an Afrikaner

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What's your take on this video Keelai?

What are those people chanting in that stadium?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqTUkcpFmFw

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