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Tomorrow the markets will tumble


and the Orange Moron will "adjust" his tariffs and say "What a good boy am I."

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Wanna bet?

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Oh, the markets will tumble. I'd say it's 50/50 on whether tRumpy will course-correct. He pays close attention to market values, but he's incapable of admitting error. We will see.

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I wouldn't be surprised. I think I've seen him say "I support this", then sometime later say "Oh, I think it's a bad thing" more than a few times. Then again, I wouldn't hold my breath. Trump can be full of surprises.

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Trump manipulates the market. He did it throughout his first term.

He probably shorted the market for Monday's drop.

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Nice try, liar.

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Yes, I'm sure a dipshit loser like you knows economics better than billionaires. Sit back and shut the fuck up.

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And it’s only been the second week. Just wait until the debt ceiling fight.

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Are any of you knuckleheads capable of seeing past the current moment?

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Liberals are notorious for being first order thinkers. It's why they never cotton on to the fact that printing trillions of dollars will result in inflation. They just see it as free money.

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Similar to tRump thinking tariffs means income--duh, for the exporting nation! From the NYTimes:

Many U.S. companies have expressed frustration with Mr. Trump’s frequent assertions that foreign countries pay for tariffs, saying they are paying those taxes themselves.

Arnold Kamler, the chairman of Kent International, a New Jersey-based firm that manufactures bicycles in China and in South Carolina, said that he has been paying tariffs on both bikes and parts he imported since Mr. Trump imposed his first round of Chinese tariffs in 2018.

“The Trump administration was very proud to say that China is paying the tariffs,” he said. “I was always very quick to say, well, if somebody in China wants to pay it, I’d be happy, but we’re paying it.”

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tRump! Weeee! Where are your Legos, lil' guy?

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It'll tumble one day and be way up the next.

Between 2016 - 2024 how many times has this redundant argument been made against Trump and Biden? Does this dawn on anyone, ever?

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There will be no quick springback from this one. Meet me back here in 30 days and we will see who gets the award for Outstanding Prescience in a Non-Movie Moviechat Contributory Role.

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Are you still as confident as 2 days ago?

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He already flipped! ("30 day pause," lol!-then they will be forgotten, buried by news from the Middleast or some other cooked-up "crisis.")

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You voted for high inflation and less retirement savings.

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Non sequitur and still useless.

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I think your confusing me with someone else--I'm a Kennedy Democrat!

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I replied to Spacetimer8092. I know you're 100% sane. 👍

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Leftoids pretending they know or care about the stock market 🤣

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Markets slide as Trump's tariff war escalates

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70kn4676p4o

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The markets were much lower under Brandon. The stock market goes up and down all the time. One day where it goes down isn’t proof of anything.

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It's proof of President Felon's negative effect on them and that the OP was correct. If he does this in his first week or so, just think of what the next few years will bring,

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Today's American indices are in completely normal territory. In fact, the Dow just entered positive territory for the day. And that doesn't even address the notion that overinflated equity markets are the best measure of an economy's health.

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trading lower Dow Jones Industrial Average .DJI 44,544.66 -337.47
trading lower Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC 19,627.44 -54.31
trading lower S&P 500 Index .SPX 6,040.53 -30.64

Pausing those Mexican tariffs however has been welcomed by the markets which might explain some of the rebound.

Trump’s tariff plans could weigh on economic growth and cause inflation to jump, Wall Street economists warn.

Morgan Stanley economists estimate that “US Inflation could be 0.3 to 0.6pp higher vs baseline over the next 3-4 months (putting headline PCE inflation at 2.9% to 3.2%) and US growth could be -0.7 to -1.1pp lower vs baseline over the next 3-4 quarters (putting real GDP growth at 1.2% to 1.6%)” if tariffs are fully implemented and not temporary, strategist Michael Zezas said in a note to clients.

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Are you incapable of searching out live market tickers? As you made this post, the Dow was not down 337 points and was in fact in positive territory. Good grief.

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You seemed relieved lol But fair enough; though I did actually recognise the rebound and suggested that it was due to Trump pausing those damaging tariffs.

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Liberals will argue tooth and nail that Kevin Bacon was not in Footloose. It’s pathetic.

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And alt-Rights will probably see a conspiracy somewhere in that casting.

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That Kevin Bacon was in Footloose? Thanks for proving my point you nimrod.

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What's your choice of conspiracy there then? Was Bacon's dance double part of early Great Replacement Theory?

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I’m not into conspiracy theories, that’s all you people.

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Glad to hear it. Many of your ilk are much more credulous.

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Well the stock market went up today, I guess that means President Trump’s policies are working.

God Bless President Trump
Fuck Joe Biden

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Most likely only because Trump has postponed most of his tariffs.

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Nope, the stock market going down according to you was evidence that his policies weren’t working, so therefore the stock market going up is evidence that his policies are working. You can’t have it both ways, shit for brains.

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so therefore the stock market going up is evidence that his policies are working.


It is evidence that some of his policies have been suspended.

shit for brains.

Oh dear. Make many friends?

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Why don’t you prove that to me instead of babbling like an idiot as per usual?

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Tariffs promised by Agent Orange, markets dip. Tariffs postponed, markets recover. And the market commentators themselves attribute the movements to this phenomenon. Thank you for playing,

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Correlation does not equate to causation, dingleberry.

Also that wasn’t what you said yesterday. Quit back peddling.

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Correlation does not equate to causation,


I agree. But can you think of anything else that might have caused such movements at the same time and fooled seasoned commentators? No. Didn't think so. And stop with the silly names, it is not big and not clever while I am sure you would not want me to call you WanKingBob.

that wasn’t what you said yesterday


https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/67a006b858130f7ef47cfd58/Tomorrow-the-markets-will-tumble?reply=67a1279c732b537610cd3030

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Stock market went up again. Read it and weep you loser.

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And those tariffs are still suspended, aren't they?

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So by your logic, Trump not doing anything about the Tariffs caused the stock market to go up? That would mean he’s doing other things to improve the economy. I mean if it went down that meant he was doing things to harm the economy.

So basically under Trump we are getting Mexico to help us enforce our border and the stock market is going up. Sounds good to me.

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So by your logic, Trump not doing anything about the Tariffs caused the stock market to go up?


By my logic it more that, by not following through on tariffs, the stock market is returning to normal, with normal movements we might expect.

I mean if it went down that meant he was doing things to harm the economy.

Give it time.

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So then that means his tariffs are irrelevant and that the market is going up because of his policies. See how easy that was?

Oh so now if the market goes down it’s because his policies failed? You’re trying to have this both ways and man it is not working for you.

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So then that means his tariffs are irrelevant and that the market is going up because of his policies.

Rather forced logic this lol. The tariffs cannot be 'irrelevant' since they are his policies.

Markets are on the rebound since Trump's tariff policies in most cases have not been instituted yet, a view held by market commentators. As said already. Good try though.

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In terms of this discussion they are irrelevant because without them the stock market went up which by your logic means his policies are working. It went up without the tariffs.

All you’re doing is making excuses, it’s pathetic.

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Trump suggested tariffs, stocks fell. Trump postponed tariffs, stocks recovered.

It went up without the tariffs.


Indeed. Thank you for agreeing with me.

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Yes so that means his policies are working and that the Tariffs are irrelevant.

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Tariffs are irrelevant.


Not if they cause a market drop, as the idea of them did.

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What evidence do you have that they had anything to do with the “market drop”?

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You have asked me this before here and I gave you my reasoning. Stop being so obtuse and just move on.

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No you established a correlation , you didn’t establish causation you idiot.

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Jut as I said before, can you think of anything else that might have caused such movements at the same time and fooled seasoned market commentators? No, you couldn't. Who should I trust more, financial professionals, and logic or some anonymous guy with an axe to grind on a right wing message board?

you idiot.


Oh dear. Now just stop.

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It’s not my job to explain to you what caused the stock market to go up after you spreaded a bunch of fear that it would go down. My stance was that day to day changes in the stock market are not indicative of the big picture. That was all you sweetheart.

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It’s not my job to explain to you what caused the stock market to go up


I guess it wasn't you who said "the stock market went up today, I guess that means President Trump’s policies are working." then? lol

My stance was that day to day changes in the stock market are not indicative of the big picture


"In the first two weeks since Trump’s inauguration in January, the market is essentially flat. The S&P 500 opened just under 6,000 on the day Trump took office, and two weeks later, was again just under 6,000 .. Just as stocks began to rebound from news of DeepSeek, Trump announced on January 31 plans for an almost immediate implementation of strict tariffs on three major trading partners. This included 25% tariffs on most Canadian and Mexican imports and an additional 10% in tariffs on Chinese goods. It caused a late-day market drop on the day of the announcement, and a further decline when markets opened again on Monday, February 3. Later in the day, the White House announced that Mexico’s tariffs would be delayed for 30 days, which helped markets recover some of the ground lost earlier in the day." (source U.S. Bank Asset Management Group/US Bank)

I hope that helps. But it won't. And I notice you didn't answer my last questions. Funny that,

That's all from me, since I am just repeating, and providing substantiation, for what you don't want to hear. But thank you for playing.

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I said going by your standards if the stock market goes up that must mean his policies are working since if the stock market goes down that means that his polices aren’t working. I was just holding you to your own standard, sorry it went over your head.

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Biden's open border ILLEGAL invasion proved The Great Replacement is real. It's no longer under dispute by anyone being honest.

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US deportations under Biden surpass Trump's record

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c36e41dx425o

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According to the BBC, Jimmy Saville was a fine human being while he was alive.

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https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/-returner-in-chief-biden-era-deportations-surpass-trump-s-first-term-totals/3464602

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-republicans-call-for-biden-to-immediately-terminate-program-that-flew-320k-migrants-into-us-cities

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Immigrants are not being flown into the U.S. randomly. Under a Biden policy in effect since January 2023, up to 30,000 people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela can enter the country monthly if they apply online with a financial sponsor and arrive at a specified airport, paying their own way. Biden exercised his “parole” authority, which, under a 1952 law, allows him to admit people “only on a case-by-case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit.”

And ... you criticise the BBC as a source while quoting, er, Fox News?

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Whatever, SKAVAU.

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Is trolling the best answer you have? Sad.

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Yes, illegal migrants were being flown into the US under the Biden regime. Fact.

The online App was a ruse to fool the gullible and the imbeciles.

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Because they were being stopped at the border and prevented from crossing over. That's why Trump had less to deport.

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Really? Which search engine told you that? Oh, I forgot...

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HAHAHAHAHAHA, President Felon, wtf is that nonsense? Sounds like sour grapes that you got your asses kicked.

As previously stated the market goes up and down, one day isn’t indicative of anything. The stock market was in the shitter under Brandon and you people don’t have any moral authority to complain about any of Trump’s policies after the disastrous past 4 years we just had.

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Trump acted. The market fell. Trump postponed an action, and the markets recovered. See how it worked? If you object I won't call him by that name. I prefer Defendant Donald or Agent Orange anyways.

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So if the stock market goes up tomorrow will you give him credit for it?

And calling him Agent Orange is deplorable. You do realize that actual Vietnam Vets who made the ultimate sacrifice died from it? You’re a sick person.

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So if the stock market goes up tomorrow will you give him credit for it?


If he does something the market sees positively enough to make a direct difference on levels, then yes.

And calling him Agent Orange is deplorable. You do realize that actual Vietnam Vets who made the ultimate sacrifice died from it?


Methinks you protest too much lol. But since you mention it, some of Trump's plans are likely to negatively affect veterans:

https://www.kaine.senate.gov/press-releases/warner-kaine-colleagues-demand-that-trump-exempt-veterans-affairs-employees-from-hiring-freeze

https://apwu.org/news/starkest-threat-veterans-benefits-project-2025-another-trump-administration

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/5-ways-president-trump-congressional-republicans-betraying-veterans/

An uncertain stockmarket is also not going to be good for pensions and savings. Glad to help,

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Oh I see, so it only counts if you say so. If it goes down he’s to blame, if it goes up however he doesn’t get credit.

You just insulted every Vietnam Vets who gave their lives for the US. You’re a piece of garbage.

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Oh I see, so it only counts if you say so.


Well you did ask and so made my view count...

If it goes down he’s to blame, if it goes up however he doesn’t get credit.


That is not what I said. So it is a strawman.

You just insulted every Vietnam Vets who gave their lives for the US.

Faux outrage noticed. But, er, I thought this brave new Libertarian era was a time, supposedly, when free speech is supreme, whether or not snowflakes are upset? See how it works?

Also, Agent Orange was a chemical herbicide used by the US military during the Vietnam War. If any one ought to be offended it ought to be the victims of this chemical warfare not the Veterans who helped it along and participated...

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Trump put Mexico and Canada on notice and they acquiesced. Don't you think that was part of his plan, skavau?

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The Bible commands us to love our neighbour as ourselves (Mark 12:31) and to treat others the way we would like to be treated (Luke 6:31) That would seem to rule out bullying.

skavau

"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"
I bet your Jesus would be proud of you, right?

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Oh skavau, I guess you've never heard of tough love. Jesus loves me (and you) exactly as we are.

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Oh dear. Keep hoping. Since with your repeated trolling with

Oh skavau


he doesn't think much on those who deliberately break the Commandments. "Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven." Matt 5:9

Your rules that you ignore, Xian, not mine.

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And? Do you even know why the law was created? Also, the least in the kingdom of heaven beats the highest in hell, every time.

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Do you even know why the law was created?

Not so people like you can just ignore it, that is for sure,

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Study up. Name ONE person who doesn't sin.

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That is still not an excuse, and it related to the Argument from Popularity. Are you going to tell Jesus all this? He'll be back soon, apparently.

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Jesus already knows. I have no defense or excuse which is why I, you and all of mankind need His mercy.

Pssst, that was a little hint regarding the law.

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I have no defense or excuse

Then why persist in such actions?
Jesus already knows

Like he 'knew' that he would return before his generation passed away? How did that work then?

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Have you ever thought that maybe Gods meaning of generation may be different from ours?

Here's an explanation for you, but I'm sure you will dismiss it out of hand, because your true MO, skavau, is to argue:

https://www.gotquestions.org/this-generation-not-pass.html

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Have you ever thought that maybe Gods meaning of generation may be different from ours?


It certainly didn't occur to none other than CS Lewis: he called Matthew 24:34 "certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible": "“Say what you like,” we shall be told, “the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.’ And he was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else" (from The World's Last Night:And Other Essays)

Did you actually read your link? Let's look at it, something which offers special pleading and contradiction in equal measure:

Jesus infamously said “this generation will not pass away until all these things take place,” On a plain reading this obviously does not refer to a future generation - which is, initially at least, what gotquestions argues... "it is imperative [my emphasis] that Matthew 24–25 be seen as dealing with a future time. The generation that Jesus speaks of “not passing” until He returns is a future generation, namely, the people living when the predicted events occur. " 'Imperative', that is, to not make out of JC a failed prophet or, worse, a liar.

But then, just later on, the same commentator then admits that after all, er. "In this view, “this generation” is the people Jesus was speaking to at that moment—some of what He predicted was going to occur during their lifetimes..." and sums up: "it is better to understand “this generation” as referring to the generation alive when the end times events are actually occurring." So QED. Do you have any more links?

skavau,


Troll.

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Just like clockwork, skavau.

I'm getting ready to go to work. What are you doing? Setting up to be on here all day? Get a life, troll.

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Just like clockwork, skavau.

Get a life, troll.


I love the smell of irony in the morning,

I'm getting ready to go to work. What are you doing?


Replying to someone who evidently has no answer, other than personal attacks, to my previous message.

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Get a life, skavau.

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Still with the trolling, after what you've been told, too. Oh dear.

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Oh dear, skavau.

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Don't 'dear' me. You will just start Melton off and you know how he gets lol

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I've laughed so hard watching this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W892acA_aBs

remembering your post in here predicting it.

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Actually Trump’s tariffs just got Mexico to cooperate. Cope harder you loser.

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Trump has found a reason to delay tariffs on Canada, so things ought to back to normal for now..

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Yes, after Castro Jr capitulated to Trump.

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???

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