Meta and Amazon Abandon Diversity
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgmy7xpw3pyo
Saw this shit coming.
No, they're giving up on DEI. It is based on failed ideology. It's going to the shitcan, where it belongs.
shareYes, because only the best and most successful companies concentrate on being mostly male, pale, and stale.
share"Yes, because only the best and most successful companies concentrate on being mostly male, pale, and stale."
You just admitted yesterday that no companies are concentrating on hiring only white males.
Please check the dictionary for the difference between 'only' and 'mostly' recruiting. And, as a fan of sarcasm I would have thought you would have recognised it here.
Also, I don't think I did, as it not a claim I have seriously made in the first place.
so companies are concentrating on hiring mostly white males? Is that your claim?
shareIt is more that if diversity is being sidelined or phased out as a significant value, why would a lack of diversity not be the outcome? As we know, some sectors have struggled to recruit a good cross section of the population, even with progressive policies in place.
shareYou do understand what a minority is right?
shareYes and whites do not count.
shareDont count for what?
shareAs a minority. Unless you are now approaching GRT time lol
shareI never claimed whites are a minority.
shareAnd they are not.
shareok now that we've settled that. What companies are hiring mostly white people?
sharehttps://digiday.com/media/despite-dei-promises-media-companies-are-still-mostly-hiring-white-people/
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/features/2024-07-29/white-men-the-most-likely-to-get-hired-even-with-dei-finds-research
https://cepr.net/publications/the-continuing-power-of-white-preferences-in-employment/
Which companies will be hiring more diversely in the future?
The country is mostly white. You understand this right?
shareAs of the latest American Community Survey in 2022, US Census Bureau estimates that 60.9% of the US population were White alone, so yes, but that still leaves 39% others.
How dare they hire mostly whites from a pool of mostly whites. Those bastards.
shareThat is not my criticism, but thank you anyway.
shareLOL you didnt think your argument through.
shareI did, actually and that was still not my argument - which is that we are stronger and fairer with diversity (which you, I think, agreed was natural) than without it.
shareWhat was your point about companies in the U.S. hiring mostly white people then?
shareIt was in response to you saying that 'DEI should be in the shit can, where it belongs' and the likely outcome and the likely result of such regressions. Good try, though.
shareAgain what was your point?
shareThat, if diversity (or DEI) is being sidelined or phased out as a significant value in an organisation, a lack of diversity would be the natural outcome. Something you did not answer. A less patient person would call you obtuse at this point..
Can you tell me why, D E I would necessarily make a company weaker if applicants were also assessed on ability?
Stronger and fairer with diversity? Do you believe that the British Empire was a net good for the world?
shareRather irrelevant but it depends from whose perspective.
shareAh, so there is perspective involved! And all these "universal" benefits to diversity that you tout might be nothing of the sort.
shareI have never said there are "universal" benefits to diversity so that is a strawman. Also, you were asking about the British Empire not diversity per se. You really are reaching now. I might add that an Empire is not a corporation.
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The most successful endeavors reward merit. Not checked boxes.
You assume I'm white. You assume non-whites can't get ahead on merit. YOU are the racist.
The most successful endeavors reward merit.
Indeed, but you can just as easily do this in a diverse workforce. Indeed with a more balanced workforce it might be easier.
You assume I'm white.
Let me guess: you are really black?
You assume non-whites can't get ahead on merit
Only if the workplace includes them in the first place.
YOU are the racist.
... characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
This is just reaching. Where have I done that? All I have pointed out is that organisations which lack diversity, which typically has meant an overwhelming number of white males, lacks a demonstrable strength. One can have too much of a good thing. And whites are neither marginalised, nor a minority.
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