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How will Democrats cheat this time?


Everyone knows they stole the 2020 election, what tactics will they use in 2024?

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I like the theory they will let this one slide. Then they have 4 years to think up something devious.

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https://x.com/AGAndrewBailey/status/1851327960210669840


Biden admin is already doing it.

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JFC, right out in the open. They must know of a comet on a collision course with Earth that us simple citizens don't know about. Its the only reasonable explanation for the Lefts blantant election interference. How can they be so cavalier?

And how does anyone NOT KNOW that non-citizens voting is BAD????? WTF!

And on top of this they pass a law for military to use deadly force on civilians right beofore election.

DOUBLE WTF!?!? This is straight up nightmare stuff.

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notice not one leftist on this board responded to it. You provide evidence and they go silent.

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Setting yourself up to fail eh? Not a good look.

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Making excuses for election rigging, eh? Not a good look.

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It is your claim that the election was 'stolen' and that the next may be too; the onus is on you to prove it. 60+ court cases thrown out for lack of merit in regards to 2020 says a lot. And it is still telling that you are building up to another defeat.

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‘Prove’ to who? Everyone knows 2020 was rigged, even you. The fact that the courts refused to investigate the fraud only confirms it.

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‘Prove’ to who?

Anyone who asks for evidence. By 'prove' I don't mean just pulling conspiracy theories out of the air .
Everyone knows 2020 was rigged, even you.

Don't tell me what I know.
The fact that the courts refused to investigate the fraud only confirms it.

The courts found nearly all of the cases brought before them without merit, which was why they were thrown out.Do you really think a range of cases brought in a range of jurisdictions and before different judges were all conspired against?

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The evidence is overwhelming and has been discussed as nauseam since the steal. You know full well that 2020 was stolen by the Dems.

The courts threw out the cases because they don’t want to be involved in election disputes. The fact that formal investigations were not conducted proves the steal.

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The evidence is overwhelming and has been discussed as nauseam (sic) since the steal.

What has been alleged is not the same as what is evidenced. As the various failed legal challenges show.
You know full well that ..

Once again: don't tell me what I know.
The courts threw out the cases because they don’t want to be involved in election disputes

And also once again: cases were thrown out because they lacked merit. Formal investigations were made and, with one or two minor exceptions, nothing was found. Ultimately, as will probably be the case if Defendant Donald loses again, it boils down to conspiracy theories and sour grapes rather than anything which reaches a legal standard of proof or real evidence. If there was real evidence or proof of anything but the usual small local incidents, you would be the first to refer to it. The fact that you don't, or cannot, speaks volumes I am afraid.

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Once again: don't tell me what I know.

STFU BITCH, I will tell everyone what you know, you lying sack of shit. You know full well that 2020 was stolen.

Do you honestly believe that Joe Biden - a walking carcass who nobody likes and didn’t even campaign - is the most popular President in American history? 🤣

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STFU BITCH

Oh dear...
I will tell everyone what you know

And again: do not assume to know what I think. It is presumptuous for one thing, since only I can know that for sure.. It is also a form of gaslighting. Shall I tell everyone that you think yourself an idiot?
you lying sack of shit

Have you been told how an ad hominem is not an argument?
Do you honestly believe that Joe Biden - a walking carcass who nobody likes and didn’t even campaign - is the most popular President in American history?

No, and it is not something I have ever said, so again just more gaslighting I am afraid. It is fair to say though that Biden had a 4 point lead in the popular vote over Defendant Donald, if that helps.

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You know 2020 was stolen and your attempt to gaslight people into believing otherwise isn’t working.

You’ve now admitted that Biden is not the most popular president in American history - which is what the ‘results’ would have you believe - therefore you know that the 2020 results were fake.

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You know 2020 was stolen

As said before, don't tell me what I know.
your attempt to gaslight people into believing otherwise

Once again: where have I gaslighted anyone?
You’ve now admitted that Biden is not the most popular president in American history

Since it not something I have claimed, I have no problem in 'admitting' that. Hey, didn't you just complain of gaslighting?
which is what the ‘results’ would have you believe - therefore you know that the 2020 results were fake.

Biden was seen as having (I seem to remember) 4% more of the overall popular vote in 2020. As you may or may not be aware, the final victory does not depend on the popular vote. I hope that helps.

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You know 2020 was stolen and your attempt to gaslight people into believing otherwise isn’t working.

You know that the 2020 election result was fake because according to the ‘results’ Biden won more votes than any other President in American history - making him the most popular President in American history, and you’ve admitted that you don’t believe that to be the case.

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You know 2020 was stolen

What I know is that you are repeating yourself almost word for word for the third time now, when I already answered lol And ... still don't tell me what I think.

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Clearly you weren’t listening when I said ‘I will tell everyone what you know, you lying sack of shit. You know full well that 2020 was stolen.’

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I will tell everyone what you know

Clearly you didn't see where I told you that claiming to know what I am thinking is presumptuous.
you lying sack of shit.

Rude descriptions are not arguments.

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It’s not presumptuous, you know 2020 was stolen because because everyone knows it, and you’ve since admitted that you don’t believe the ‘results’ - which would have everyone believe that Biden is the most popular President in American history because he won more votes than any other - are accurate.

Rude descriptions are not arguments

Firstly, your character is linked to your ‘arguments’. You’re spewing bullshit because you’re an ideologically possessed liar, and we have to get to the roots of your BS.

Second, I don’t care whether something sounds ‘rude’ to you, I’m only interested in the truth. When you start to embrace reality and be honest you’ll find that truth tellers will describe you in ways you’ll probably find more comfortable.

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It’s not presumptuous, you know

Again, again: don't tell me what I know. Do I say you really know you are wrong, and that with all your deeply held, illogical conspiracy theories you really know you need to seek professional help? How would I prove it?
you’re an ideologically possessed liar, and we have to get to the roots of your BS.

Once again, an insulting description is not an argument. And who is 'we'? You and Cathy Newman?
I don’t care whether something sounds ‘rude’ to you

I am very sorry you lack empathy.
I’m only interested in the truth.

Unfortunately though not in recognising unconscious irony it appears.

Now instead of this entertaining diversion, are you going to provide actual authoritative links and evidence for all your claims about election fraud? I definitely think not.

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Again, you know 2020 was stolen because everyone knows it, and you’ve since admitted that you don’t believe the ‘results’ - which would have everyone believe that Biden is the most popular President in American history because he won more votes than any other - are accurate.

The ‘insult’ crap we’ve already covered, go back and read my original responses instead of jamming your fingers in your ears and mindlessly repeating your bullshit.

Now instead of this entertaining diversion, are you going to provide actual authoritative links and evidence for all your claims about election fraud? I definitely think not.

Sure. First, you apologise for being a lying sack of shit and a smug, jumped up little asshole, and then I’ll go fetch you that evidence…

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Again, you know 2020 was stolen

Again; don't tell me what I know . Or if you like, on the same basis I could say you know you are deluded. It would carry the same weight and is just as unavailable to proof..
which would have everyone believe that Biden is the most popular President in American history because he won more votes than any other - are accurate.

As noted before, Biden only won 4% more in the 2020 popular vote.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/
Google is your friend.
instead of jamming your fingers in your ears and mindlessly repeating your bullshit.

Irony noted.
FF " instead of this entertaining diversion, are you going to provide actual authoritative links and evidence for all your claims about election fraud? I definitely think not." M: Sure. (but) first...

I didn't think so, Evasion noted.
smug, jumped up little asshole,

Here you again unfortunately address me once again, not my arguments, with an offensive 'description' ... which is an insult.. I wonder why? Why don't you stick to the OP and prove what you assert and not just offer unsubstantiated opinions? Hey, I think I know...

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Again; don't tell me what I know .

Again, you know 2020 was stolen because everyone knows it, and you’ve since admitted that you don’t believe the ‘results’ - which would have everyone believe that Biden is the most popular President in American history because he won more votes than any other - are accurate.


Or if you like, on the same basis I could say you know you are deluded. It would carry the same weight and is just as unavailable to proof..

No, because what I’m saying is true. You're still not grasping the concept of truth. Your cultish brainwashing has completely divorced you from reality.

There’s no equivalence between you and I. You are a pathological liar and I tell the truth, capiche?


As noted before, Biden only won 4% more in the 2020 popular vote.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/
Google is your friend.

All irrelevant diversionary bullshit. The point is that you’ve admitted that you don’t believe the ‘results’ - which would have everyone believe that Biden is the most popular President in American history because he won more votes than any other - are accurate. Therefore you know the ‘results’ are fake.

Is any of this going in?


Here you again unfortunately address me once again, not my arguments, with an offensive 'description' ... which is an insult.. I wonder why?

Firstly, your character is linked to your ‘arguments’. You’re spewing bullshit because you’re an ideologically possessed liar, and we have to get to the roots of your BS.

Second, I don’t care whether something sounds ‘rude’ to you, I’m only interested in the truth. When you start to embrace reality and be honest you’ll find that truth tellers will describe you in ways you’ll probably find more comfortable.

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Again, you know 2020 was stolen because everyone knows it, and you’ve since admitted that you don’t believe the ‘results’ - which would have everyone believe that Biden is the most popular President in American history because he won more votes than any other - are accurate.

See my reply to the last time you cut and paste your one size fits all answers. Also see https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/ but you won't.
No, because what I’m saying is true

It is just as amenable to proof as when I might say you really know you are an idiot. The only person who really knows what they think is that person. Even if they assert their belief, they could be lying. See how epistemology works?
You are a pathological liar and I tell the truth, capiche?

Oh well, if you say it, then it must be true. I mean just look at your track record.. lol
All irrelevant diversionary bullshit

Pew Research is a well respected and political neutral source of data, used by left and right. What was it you have said about fingers in the ears? Meanwhile of course, we still wait to see any links or sources of your own. Funny that. But sadly, predictable.
The point is that you’ve admitted that you don’t believe the ‘results’

Where have i admitted that? At most I have taken the common sense position that there has been some local fraud in every election but never at a level to change results. Ultimately even the data taken by the right wing Heritage Foundation, which is very thorough, and makes alarming claims, shows that.

Therefore you know the ‘results’ are fake.
Like you 'know' you sound increasing desperate and offer no substantiation? Is any of this going in?

Firstly, your character is linked to your ‘arguments’. You’re spewing bullshit because you’re an ideologically possessed liar, and we have to get to the roots of your BS.
Second, I don’t care whether something sounds ‘rude’ to you, I’m only interested in the truth. When you start to embrace reality and be honest you’ll find that truth tellers will describe you in ways you [blah]

Since you are blindly cutting and pasting your answers now again, thereby tediously repeating yourself over and over, to save time please look at my previous replies to these paragraphs. Thank you.

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FFS how many times do the same basic truths need to be re-explained to you before anything goes in?

This is like playing chess with someone who thinks the way to win is to eat the most pieces. Treating you like an equal is starting feel like an act of cruelty.

So here’s what we’ll do… if anyone out there thinks ‘filmflaneur’ has a remotely valid point somewhere here, or that I haven’t explained myself adequately, then quote the relevant passage and explain why, and I’ll be happy to clarify things.

Needless to say, this invitation doesn’t extend to you, Flimflam (or your sock account).

Let’s hope someone can find something of value in your reams of painfully stupid yet unwarrantedly smug drivel 🤞🏻


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Still no substantiation, or sources, then for anything you claim? No need to ask other people to contribute since that lack speaks for itself. That is one thing I do/ know.

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Hey kiddo, let’s hope someone out there can find something remotely coherent or valid in your mindless screeds.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you 🤞🏻

In the meantime, I want you to reveal if you are indeed a Skavau sock. If so, reply to this post with his typical Hatchling and Straw question routine. Go…

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Why is what I say incoherent or invalid? Is it less so to never offer substantiation for the things you insist on?

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As I suspected.

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The courts threw out the cases because they don’t want to be involved in election disputes. The fact that formal investigations were not conducted proves the steal.

That is one of the dumbest things I've read on here , and as you know the competition for idiotic deluded brain dead conspiracy theories is steep indeed.

Does the fact that there has not been an investigation into wehter the moon is made of cheese prove that it is made of cheese?
There was no investigation because there was zero reason to suspect one was needed.
Trump and a million deluded cult members lying about it being rigged because the lost does not count.

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There was no investigation because there was zero reason to suspect one was needed.

And yet, the judges refused to see or accept the evidence.

They refused to do an official investigation because they knew for a fact there was fraud, shenanigans and irregularities. They didn't want to overturn an election.

That is not zero reason:
https://moviechat.org/nm0874339/Donald-Trump/650c3bee2401b548711d2a41/When-Trump-gets-even-more-votes-than-last-election-and-loses?reply=651730f01976121e5fa5bc0f

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the judges refused to see or accept the evidence.

They did, and found cases were repeatedly without merit. On 60 plus occasions in a range of courts and jurisdictions in fact. There are claims that 30 more cases succeeded, often made on this board but I have never seen a link to these. And don't expect to now.

They refused to do an official investigation because they knew for a fact there was fraud, shenanigans and irregularities.

Such a claim is unevidenced, as usual, is rather desperate, and sounds counter-intuitive.

Re your link starting with the results of the 2020 Arizona audit: the auditors released a report in September 2021, finding no proof of fraud and that their ballot recount increased Biden's margin of victory by 360 votes.County election officials released a final report in January 2022 finding that nearly all of the auditors' allegations of irregularities were false or misleading.

Or to take another of your claims at random: Georgia

Georgia prosecutors say all 16 fake Trump electors are targets in criminal probe

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/19/politics/georgia-grand-jury-trump-electors/index.html

Sorry about that. If the headline claim can be easily debunked, can misrepresent, and given that you offer no external sources for any of your claims, as usual, one can be excused for being sceptical overall.

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repeatedly without merit.

You meant "lacked standing" ... which translates to: "Refusal to see/accept evidence when the defendants can't show how they were personally harmed/affected by the fraud."

in January 2022 finding that nearly all of the auditors' allegations of irregularities were false or misleading.

Of course they claimed it was false or misleading, a lying thief doesn't admit that he stole something.

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Given the sheer number of election-related cases that lacked merit, federal judges in states like Colorado, Michigan, and Wisconsin have begun moving to consider and, in at least one instance thus far, implement sanctions against the lawyers that submitted them. For instance, according to a July 16 article from The Washington Post, a federal judge in Michigan began questioning Sidney Powell and eight other pro-Trump lawyers to decide whether to sanction the group for submitting a lawsuit crafted on false information that sought to overturn the results of the presidential election. On August 25, the judge imposed sanctions on Powell and the other pro-Trump lawyers, recommending that their respective state bars investigate whether they should be suspended or disbarred.

But lack of standing or without merit the result was the same. Please see (again) this detailed breakdown of several examples. But you won't.

https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections

Of course they claimed it was false or misleading,


It was you, just earlier, who was relying on auditors when it suited, was it not?

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More propaganda ... seriously? Can you think for yourself for at least five seconds?

Those auditors ware confirming what we already knew.

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More factual reporting, seriously. Are you saying the accounts of these various court cases are not? Do you have an alternative account for these cases? No.

Those auditors ware confirming what we already knew.

... which, it was discovered, in regards to Arizona at least, was false or misleading.

Once again the observation is that those of the political convictions of yourself or Melton are raising this topic again, setting your side to fail again this time around with the same tired old allegations which consistently fail in court.

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Fake and biased sources are not facts. Sorry about that.

Nothing false or misleading. Those "numbers" don't lie. Sorry about that.

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Fake and biased sources are not facts. Sorry about that.


Once again: Are you saying the accounts of these various court cases are not factual? Do you have an alternative account for these cases? No.

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Literally any source that disagrees with TVFan's narrative is "Fake and biased"

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You've noticed that too? lol

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Yes, especially from propagandist scriptures that you worship because you're terrified of thinking critically.

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"any source that disagrees with TVFan's narrative is "Fake and biased" TVF: "yes"

QED.

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tvfan is plain psychotic tbh. Even more dangerous than Trump.

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Says the snake in the grass.

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Your unhealthy obsession of love with Trump is unnatural. I think you are just a sociopathic troll that likes to piss everyone else off and not contribute any serious discussion of cheating.

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And yet, it was you that mentioned Trump.

And it was you that has created pretentious Trump posts.

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Yes, because you would rather not mention him, because you know everyone will piss you off if you say literally anything about him. You clearly love Trump more than the right itself.

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And yet, the judges refused to see or accept the evidence.


Why didnt the Judges that Trump had appointed help him out?

I'll tell ya why not , the conversation probably went something like this:

DJT shill Judge: Look Don , I wanna help ya, and I owe you one and everything , but this 'rigged election' of yours is just a fantasy you pulled out your ass with zero evidence because it didnt happen ... so I just cant take it further for you , I'd be a laughing stock and lose my career"

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Please keep believing 2020 was stolen. Most ppl don't take flat earthers seriously and that's what you sound like.

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Shit gaslighting attempt. 2020 was stolen and everyone, including you, knows it.

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I guess you have to believe it bc if you didn't there's no way to justify what Trump & his ppl did to try & overturn the result. You'd have to reckon with being a rube, or a traitor, or a scumbag.

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Yes, to overturn a rigged and stolen election.

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Moronic and obnoxious reply. Trump tried to get the phony result investigated, only to have the courts refuse to do anything (as Flimflam pointed out), further confirming the steal.

Hell, you got banned on social media platforms if you dared question the result - that alone proves the steal.

Any more pathetic excuses for your cheating?

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So, rube then.

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Notice how you jam your fingers in your ears and mindlessly fart out abuse instead actually paying attention to the evidence. You’re in a cult, you’re completely brainwashed, and the irony of you calling anyone else a ‘rube’ is hilarious.

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Notice how you jam your fingers in your ears and mindlessly fart out abuse instead actually paying attention to the evidence. You’re in a cult, you’re completely brainwashed, and the irony


Irony indeed from you.

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Hmm, this is very Sister behaviour. If it’s true that you take it deep in both ends, then reply to this post with:

Who are you to ask who I am?

Go…

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Who are you to ask who I am?

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https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1851398773609812146


No the left isnt going to cheat. It would never happen.

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They know that unless they cheat, they would not win.

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what tactics will they use in 2024?

Have you worked out what tactics they used in 2020?
I've heard magas expound every conceivable tactics.
Which one did y'all decide on ?
Whats your best guess?

Its tricky I know given that not a shred of evidence was ever found ( cos it didnt happen)

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Horseshit, there’s tons of evidence of the 2020 steal.

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Yeah they released Bat Herpes

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i'm a republican but i can see why obama won, i understand he was a well polished politican who knew how to sell himself, democrats normally are well prepared, as much as i hate them, they are smarter than republicans, they normally have things tied up, the media in their pockets, a well prep'd candidate. i mean i can't stand hilary, but she was well spoken, smart, evil as it gets, but a real pro...

So i can't understand why the democrats have been sloppy this time, it makes no sense. a year ago, i started asking when they would replace biden, but it seemed insane to me that they would have him debate in the state he's in. but they never replaced him, they let him go into a debate when he was clearly suffering from dementia, it was insane...
so then at the last minute, with nobody seemingly to want the job, kamala got the nomination on some default... it's insane to me that the dems let it get to this.

so why did they? well maybe because if you're planning to steal the election anyway, who cares if you have an amazing articulate candidate?

i think they'll say next week that kamala got somewhere between 85 and 90 million votes, and using the media they'll call anyone who questions this, a racist, sexist and an election denier. they know that millions of people wont buy it, but they are ready to deal with the fall out.

i also don't think that trump would have had 3 possible asassination attempts if the dems had an obama this election. those were the 2 options kill trump or steal the election, unless something happens this week then it's steal the election.

not even the most hardcore democrat is turned on by kamala, i know democrats who will sit this election out and not vote... i've never heard the most hardcore democrat give us speeches about how amazing kamala is, the rhetoric is "but trump..."

she was a disaster as a candidate in 2020, a diversity hire as VP, an awful VP.. and she hasn't had to win one primary or debate one fellow democrat....

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if they say on tuesday that she got 90 million votes, then nobody will believe it, then again if trump wins, people will go nuts...

no matter what happens next week, there will be chaos.

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Correct analysis

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When will republicans provide their ACTUAL proof that the 2020 election was stolen?

Fun FACT: republicans CHOOSING to BELIEVE it was has never made their belief a fact...and never will.

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There’s buckets of evidence, you just choose to ignore it because it’s politically expedient for you to do so.

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Melton said - "There’s buckets of evidence, you just choose to ignore it because it’s politically expedient for you to do so."

So you have evidence that wasn't already provided by republicans in their 60+ failed court cases where they weren't able to prove what you're suggesting YOU can prove and that I'm ignoring? - Eyeroll -

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It’s not a matter of a specific time/date, but based on a response to a triggered event.

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I don't know how but you know they will. No use at all for us Republicans to vote.

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