One of those lies I've heard for some time now--"The electoral college is racist!" I decided to do the research (which turned out to be rather easy). It's just another lie the establishment has repeated enough times to convince brainless idiots to repeat it without knowing what they're saying.
shareSo...the electoral college, which gave the perfect solution for southern states that wanted the electoral power of their slave populations without actually letting them vote...wasn't racist? Sure, that makes sense!
shareThis poster wonders in another thread why Biden hasn't simply abolished the EC by executive order, so that should tell you how well they know the subject matter!
And you're not too sharp when it comes to detecting sarcasm and cynicism. That's okay. Idiots have a right to live too, even if you make life difficult for everyone else.
shareProvide empirical sources that support your revisionism.
shareThis is what happens with morons don't take a civics class. The electoral college is what separates a democracy (mob rule, which we ain't) from a republic (which we is). You people are so drunk on political rhetoric that you can't even understand basic concepts if they seem to conflict with the lies you believe.
shareIs it your position that France or Poland are "mob rule" since they directly elect their presidents via popular vote.
shareFrench election system having issues atm
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/31/french-left-policies-post-election-deadlock-lucie-castets
France's system works much better than the American.
shareI honestly can't tell if this is more trolling or you're really just this stupid!
The intent of the electoral college is painfully obvious, especially when you consider the political divide at the time between Northern and Southern states, and also the fact that the 3/5's compromise was passed just days before the electoral college came into effect.
Hell, here's a quote from James Madison explaining why the US didn't choose to directly elect the president by popular vote.
"There was one difficulty, however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to the fewest objections."
I know right wingers hate to acknowledge the racist roots of this country, but this is just willful ignorance in this thread!
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Madison was talking about the issue of the South not having enough political power because the slaves had no voting rights. The 3/5s compromise was give the north and south equal power, and eventually wouldn't be needed anymore hence the 15th Amendment.
Tell me, what other country besides UK gave up slavery voluntarily...and also fought a violent, bloody war to achieve? What other country other than the US freed their slaves in a bloody civil war, then gave them full voting rights in a decade following abolishment?
Any other country at the time, and they would still have been slaves for who knows how long.
The legit argument for the EC has been covered to death and easy to find. Why is there this need to turn it into something evil? I mean, I know why (ignorance and malevolence), not sure why Im addressing that in form of a question.
shareThe Founders' thoughts on direct democracy are widely available. They had studied the matter extensively and were overwhelmingly against it on a philosophical basis. To claim that the EC is grounded in racism is pure balderdash. They were rightfully opposed to a general franchise because they were learned men, well versed in the evils that attend 50%+1 rule.
shareThe electoral college is what prevents a tyranny of the majority. It keeps the liberal idiots like you that live in urban areas from running roughshod over the rest of us. Because you're stupid and know jack shit about the rest of the country.
Not a fucking thing to do with slavery but thanks for playing your race card.
Can someone not equally argue that "conservative idiots" who live in rural areas are "stupid and know jack shit about the rest of the country"?
shareMob rule = Jan. 6
Electoral College is anti-democratic. The popular vote is used in every election except presidential. And every strong democracy uses the popular vote in their elections without any problem.
I like how this instantly brought out the apologists for revisionism.
share"decided to do the research"
Link to it.
There's nothing, absolutely NOTHING Racist about the Electoral College Vote and the Democrats had no problem with it when Obama won 2 Terms by having more than the required amount of Electoral College Votes, but all of a sudden in 2024, when Trump is poised to win in November because of this, now you have a problem with it and it's Racist.. π
share>There's nothing, absolutely NOTHING Racist about the Electoral College Vote and the Democrats had no problem with it when Obama won 2 Terms by having more than the required amount of Electoral College Votes
Obama happened to win the popular vote.
>but all of a sudden in 2024, when Trump is poised to win in November because of this, now you have a problem with it and it's Racist.. π
Probably because Trump is very unlikely to win the popular vote.