I don't think you do... cause if Trump's over you have to find an identity outside of Trump and his fans... don't you?
Man that's one hell of a come-down for you obsessive freaks.
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shareWhat a bizarre question. I mean, who cares what his supporters do if he’s sent to prison? If I’d hope for anything it’s that both sides would find something more productive to concern themselves with. Personality politics is such a bore now.
shareCAN'T WE JUST TELL TRUMP AND BIDEN TO BOTH GO FUCK THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER AND FIND A RESPECTABLE PRESIDENT?
shareI agree.
sharelike rfk?
shareYou have to get through the 2024 Election to get to 2028 where you will have younger candidates, but until then, this is pretty much what we have and Trump is the better option than Joe Biden, but I'm wiling to bet as predictable as you are, you'll vote 4 more years of Biden just so you don't rub anyone wrong??
shareI TOLD YOU...I AM HONEST...I VOTED FOR TRUMP...TWICE...I AM ALSO REGISTERED AS REPUBLICAN....ALTHOUGH THAT IS IN NEED OF ALTERATION...I PREFER INDEPENDANT.
shareMy hope is that they will resort to norms of civility and legality and partake in democracy again.
The really freaky Trump or Bust types - I suspect they'll got back to not voting again and find other things to feel victimized about
What norms of civility or legality are you referring to ?
Such as respecting the election process and results and not trying to overturn our democracy and institute a dictator who they happen to like.
shareSo, to be clear the 400 plus riots from teh LEFT, and the cia and the fbi running an illegal and unauthorized operation AGAINST THE AMERICAN PUBLIC during the election,
that's cool.
Got it.
Not to mention all the other bat shit crazy and illegal and divisive shit that hte left did during the trump years,
Hell or even before.
"So, to be clear..."
You b are far from clear on the facts.
" the 400 plus riots from teh LEFT, "
Were elected democratic officials rioting? I must have missed that.
What you characterize as "400 riots by the left" - are you equating street violence with the actions of members of the Trump administration and by state officials in places such as Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin... to fraudulently submit slates of Electors and overturn the certified votes of American Citizens?
Ok, that's an interesting view.
"and the cia and the fbi running an illegal and unauthorized operation AGAINST THE AMERICAN PUBLIC during the election,"
This didn't actually happen, you know.
Your request for us to operate within the bounds of Old School debate and polite disagreement,
while you people murder us in the streets and arrest us if we defend ourselves,
is denied.
You may whine like a faggot about the heat you are getting from us, but it will only increase as you keep being an asshole.
It takes a real pussy to start shit, and then whine like a fag when it is their turn to take some back.
When have "you" been murdered in the streets?
sharePlenty of people died during the lefty riots of the Trump years. At least one of them was a cop. I assume that there were more, that I would consider, one of mine fellow Americans (as opposed to leftard revolutionaries)
shareWell, there's the two that Rittenhouse killed. They're was the guy in Portland that may have been killed by some far left person. Other than that, the deaths were either incidents that happened near protests but were not committed by protestors or killings by police.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled
"near protests"? Right... "mostly peaceful", there just happens to be a murder or two, NEARBY, but COMPLETETLY UNCONNECTED....
My point stands. Your request to have us conservatives be nice to you while we are murdered in the streets, is denied.
Did you read the article? You are welcome to offer a rebuttal to it.
shareI tried. It wasn't giving me any information on how it's judgements were made or answering any of the obvious questions.
For example. HOW did they know that the UNCONNECTED murderers were unconnected? Were the murderers caught in every instance? Did they give a complete confession that explained their motives that were completely unconnected to the "peaceful protest" that just happened to be near by?
And the fact that they are pushing that old chestnut, "most peaceful"?
Not building much confidence.
They give a link to the crime database they used.
How did you get YOUR information?
I'm not going to do a full analysis to double check their work. They don't explain how they reached their conclusions.
How did you reach your conclusion? Did you do research or did you just take somebody's word for it?
shareI used my own brain to think about their claims and how they made no sense.
The national clearance rate of solving homicides is just over HALF.
And I would assume that in a RIOT setting that the challenges to the police to solve a murder would be far GREATER than normal.
I would be highly suspicious of any claim from anyone that made a claim that they know the motives and reasons for all the killings.
What percentage of the murders from the riots, do they not know who killed the guy?
"What percentage of the murders from the riots, do they not know who killed the guy?"
Yet, you use your brain to fabricate the conclusion that people on the left committed the murders and initiated the riot.
1. If you make a claim that the murders were NOT politically motivated by the rioters, then that requires that you have identified the murderer and his motive in ALL the murders.
That's a HIGH BAR, that people you cite making the claim SET FOR THEMSELVES.
iF you or they can't answer my question, then they have failed to make it, and their claim is... not supported.
2. I assume that some of the murdered committed in or "near" the lefty race riots of the trump era, where done by lefties for politically reasons. Yes. Especially since I know of at least ONE, when blm leaders called for the murder of police and then a cop was murdered at a riot. So... I'm not claim that ALL of them are that, but imo, it is certain that SOME of them are. Thus, my claim is much more modest and much more likely.
You made the first claim, Dexter. And you keep assuming without any facts.
I backed up my claim. You haven't even read it.
I addressed all of that in my previous post...
Yes, your assumptions, not founded in fact.
shareI asked you what percentage of the murders were unsolved.
For your claim to be at all possible to support, teh answer would have to be ZERO.
Your answer was actually to ignore the question.
That is ONE aspect of this discuss. Each of the points raised, your side is just a failed as that one.
YOu are posting as though you are engaged in a debate, but you are not actually answering any challenges to your assertions.
You made the affirmative claim that you "are being murdered in the streets" and pointed to the 2020 BLM protests.
You have provided no evidence that murders were being committed by BLM protestors or anyone "on the left". You only gave what you characterized as your assumptions.
I don't have to give you shit, until you support your claim.
1. Actually I cited one well known example. So, that's a massive fail on your part.
2. My point about the level of unsolved murders is not an assumption. I made an ASSUMPTION that murders done DURING a riot would be even harder to solve. Please disagree. Do it clearly so that it will be funnier.
and find other things to feel victimized about
If Trump went to jail I would expect the Republican party to regain some of its self respect and find a non joke candidate , preferably under 80.
Strike him down and he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. The MAGA will be with us…always.
shareThe epitome of irony for trump supporters to accuse OTHERS of being obsessive freaks needing to find an identity outside of trump...as illustrated by the comments of the trump fans on this message board.
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