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Russia hands out first convictions in connection with anti-LGBT law


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/01/russia-hands-out-first-convictions-in-connection-with-anti-lgbt-law

"Russia hands out first convictions in connection with anti-LGBT law
Courts begin convicting people displaying symbols associated with ‘LGBT movement’ designated as extremist last year

Reuters
Thu 1 Feb 2024 17.39 GMT
Two Russian courts have this week handed out the first convictions in connection with what the government calls the “international LGBT social movement” which was designated as extremist last year.

On Thursday, a court in the southern region of Volgograd found a man guilty of “displaying the symbols of an extremist organisation” after he posted a photograph of an LGBT flag online, according to the court’s press service.

The man, known only as Artyom P, who was ordered to pay a fine of 1,000 roubles (£8.69), admitted guilt and repented, saying he had posted the image “out of stupidity”, the court said.

On Monday, a court in Nizhny Novgorod, east of Moscow, sentenced a woman to five days in administrative detention for wearing frog-shaped earrings displaying an image of a rainbow, according to Aegis, an LGBT rights group.

The woman was called to the police station after a man filmed himself approaching her in a cafe and demanding she remove the earrings, and posted it online."

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If could be worse.

They could be forced into conversion therapy, or torture or expulsion from the country or sentence to years of imprisonment or even the death penalty. Therefore; they should be very grateful.

The Alphabet cult in the USA has all the freedom of expression and they are still pushing their bullshit on children and everyone else with their affirmation bullshit…And yet, somehow, they still have one of the highest suicide rates.

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It could be worse. That doesn't remotely justify this law.

>They could be forced into conversion therapy, or torture or expulsion from the country or sentence to years of imprisonment or even the death penalty. Therefore; they should be very grateful.

Grateful that the state bans them from public life? Should the Jews have been "grateful" that they were only persecuted and banished from public life in the mid 1930s in Germany?

>The Alphabet cult in the USA has all the freedom of expression and they are still pushing their bullshit on children and everyone else with their affirmation bullshit…And yet, somehow, they still have one of the highest suicide rates.

Because (at least in part) LGBT acceptance is not uniform across the USA.

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That doesn't remotely justify this law.

Than they should not break the law. Period.

Should the Jews have been "grateful" that they were only persecuted and banished from public life in the mid 1930s in Germany?

They should have left when they had the chance like they did from those other countries.

LGBT acceptance is not uniform across the USA.

They also have the freedom to leave the USA.

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>Than they should not break the law. Period.

If the USA implemented a ban on firearms, would you just say to gun owners: "Than they should not break the law. Period"

>They should have left when they had the chance like they did from those other countries.

That's not an answer to my question. Should Jews in Germany in the mid 1930s have been "grateful" they weren't being killed?

>They also have the freedom to leave the USA.

Yes they do. Why the fuck should they?

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We wouldn't give up our firearms, so your strawman is irrelevant.

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I am attacking your principle. Should all laws just always be obeyed? Would you say "Than they should not break the law. Period" if anyone did so? Would that be all you could say?

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Of course I know you are a bloodthirsty fascist who wants to drive LGBT people into the underground, I'm just highlighting this for visibilities sake.

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tvfan is a lot worse that I ever noticed. What an ignorant intolerant scumbag.
He's probably gay himself.
Great idea to argue with him.

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Why are neutered soy boys like you tolerant of child groomers?

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Who has mentioned child groomers here? Russia bans all LGBT people from public life, even amongst adults.

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"Russia bans all LGBT people"

No, they are banning their icons and symbols.

Laws were made against using them so they should have respected and obeyed those laws.

If they feel that it is more important for them to display them or express their depravity, perversions, and unnatural behaviors than they should leave the country; otherwise, face the consequences of breaking those laws.

That is precisely the analogy I made a few weeks ago on your other post about giving them the hand and they ask for the arm until it gets to the point where our country has devolved into.

Unlike us, Russia has taken steps to ensure that its culture and way of life are not destroyed.

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>No, they are banning their icons and symbols.

They go much further. They ban any and all entertainment that depicts LGBT people in any sense. They raid gay clubs. They essentially make it illegal to show to society in any way that you are LGBT. You support this?

>Laws were made against using them so they should have respected and obeyed those laws.

Okay, so if the USA passed a law that banned guns - should gun-owners "respect" and "obey" those laws?

>If they feel that it is more important for them to display them or express their depravity, perversions, and unnatural behaviors than they should leave the country; otherwise, face the consequences of breaking those laws.

You do realise that not everyone can just leave a country easily, right? Especially not a highly sanctioned country like Russia.

Do you reject the concept of resistance? Should Jews in the 1930s in Germany just "respected" and "obeyed" the laws the Nazis imposed on them?

>That is precisely the analogy I made a few weeks ago on your other post about giving them the hand and they ask for the arm until it gets to the point where our country has devolved into.

So do you or do you support this law for LGBT people in the USA?

>Unlike us, Russia has taken steps to ensure that its culture and way of life are not destroyed.

How do LGBT threaten to destroy the culture of the USA?

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They are driving themselves into the underground.

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And how are they doing that?

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What is wrong in driving LGBT people into underground?

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So you hate free speech?

What should be done to LGBT people?

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Free speech? Nope, I love it.
Free pro gay demonstrations and using those flags and guys kissing in public? Heterosexuals dont display flags, they dont do demonstrations, why should gays?

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>Free speech? Nope, I love it.

Clearly not. You want to drive LGBT people underground.

>Free pro gay demonstrations and using those flags and guys kissing in public?

Straight people kiss in public dude. They kiss in public all the time.

Why should gay demonstrations be banned?

>Heterosexuals dont display flags, they dont do demonstrations, why should gays?

They should be able to if they want.

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"If could be worse."

I guess you could say the same about slavery eh?
they were getting fed and housed , what more could they wwant?

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"On Monday, a court in Nizhny Novgorod, east of Moscow, sentenced a woman to five days in administrative detention for wearing frog-shaped earrings displaying an image of a rainbow, according to Aegis, an LGBT rights group.
The woman was called to the police station after a man filmed himself approaching her in a cafe and demanding she remove the earrings, and posted it online."

Wow, that's real 1984 stuff right there.

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How absurd. Could have been the US not so long ago.
At least they are not throwing gays and supporters head first off the tops of buildings.

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Russia's Chechen forces kidnap lgbt and put them in concentration camps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gay_purges_in_Chechnya

Its pretty horrifying

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> The republic covers an area of 17,300 square kilometres
> (6,700 square miles), with a population of over 1.5 million
> residents as of 2021.[7] It is home to the indigenous Chechens,
> part of the Nakh peoples, and of primarily Muslim faith.

That explains a lot.

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I'm definitely not in favor of any of these types of laws.

That said, why do people, any people feel the need to advertise their sexuality?

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>That said, why do people, any people feel the need to advertise their sexuality?

Define "advertising" sexuality.

Holding hands? Kissing? Going on a date? Sharing pictures on Facebook?

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Wearing provocative shirts, jewelry, etc. in public. I don't consider PDA as "advertising" and don't think anything of it unless it's just to make a statement and that includes straight people. Making out in public is just vulgar.

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>Wearing provocative shirts, jewelry, etc.

What would you consider "provocative" here? Something with the LGBT flag?

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Yes. Why does anyone need to wear a LGBT flag? I don't wear a "Straight" flag. I don't even know if there is such a thing. I acknowledge people's right to have whatever beliefs they want, but being provocative is just stupid, like displaying swastikas, "black power", "white power", "meat is murder", etc., etc., is just to get under people's skin that don't agree with you. Why? Peaceful co-existence is much better (and safer for everyone).

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>Yes. Why does anyone need to wear a LGBT flag?

Because it's a political, social and cultural movement. If you are "provoked" by seeing an LGBT flag, that says more about you than them. People wear crosses in publics. Republicans stuff the back of their car with MAGA paraphenalia.

> I don't wear a "Straight" flag. I don't even know if there is such a thing. I acknowledge people's right to have whatever beliefs they want, but being provocative is just stupid, like displaying swastikas, "black power", "white power", "meat is murder"

Are you unironically comparing LGBT expression with Nazism?

And why shouldn't vegans, if they do believe that strongly, express that in a public form?

>is just to get under people's skin that don't agree with you. Why? Peaceful co-existence is much better (and safer for everyone).

A quiet, muted happy brave new world, eh?

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I didn't compare it. They are examples of provocative wear, designed to provoke.

What's wrong with a world where people realize that in public, people may feel strongly about something that they may feel opposite about? Why provoke? Really. Why? What would one be accomplishing?

I'm straight but wouldn't wear a shirt proclaiming it, because the sole reason for wearing it would be to provoke.

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>What's wrong with a world where people realize that in public, people may feel strongly about something that they may feel opposite about? Why provoke? Really. Why? What would one be accomplishing?

Who says they're wearing it to provoke? Why should LGBT people feel like they should be shrinking violets in public? Some people are "provoked" by seeing crosses, or hijabs, or gay men holding hands or kissing.

Is this album: https://violetcold.bandcamp.com/album/empire-of-love a provocation?

>I'm straight but wouldn't wear a shirt proclaiming it, because the sole reason for wearing it would be to provoke.

There aren't lawmakers in office that openly believe being heterosexual is a sin, and are on record for trying to criminalise sex.

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What other reason would one have for wearing a LGBT flag or a "Straight" flag or a swastika or a white or black power shirt?

I'm happy being straight but who cares? I feel no need to advertise it.

Great, you (not you, personally) love being gay. So what? Who cares?

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>What other reason would one have for wearing a LGBT flag or a "Straight" flag or a swastika or a white or black power shirt?

To present affiliation with the political and cultural LGBT movement.

>I'm happy being straight but who cares? I feel no need to advertise it.

Again: There aren't lawmakers in office that openly believe being heterosexual is a sin, and are on record for trying to criminalise sex.

LGBT culture is actually a subculture in its own right.

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Again: There aren't lawmakers in office that openly believe being heterosexual is a sin, and are on record for trying to criminalise sex.


Doesn't concern me in the least. If there were, I'd still be straight.

Why do people of any sexual orientation need "affirmation"

Did anything I've said resonate with you at all?

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>Doesn't concern me in the least. If there were, I'd still be straight.

Okay, but if you had to fight for your rights to be straight over many decades, a subculture around being straight could've genuinely emerged.

>Why do people of any sexual orientation need "affirmation"

It's not "affirmation". Why do you assume they're peacocking to straight people? Some might be, but many are not.

Why would seeing an LGBT flag somehow hurt anyone?

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i miss the 80s g ay people who essentially said "what does it have to do with you?"

i agree, who cares?

but people like you create problems, they force this ideology down peoples throats and when we say "leave us in peace" you go mental.

i dont care about your flags, dont pretend i'm enraged by it, just dont flip out because i'm not dancing and mincing around broadway with you and your civil partner kevin. get over yourself.

nobody cares

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>i miss the 80s g ay people who essentially said "what does it have to do with you?"

You completely missed everything that I said.

There are Republican lawmakers who openly flirt with the idea of banning gay sex. That is to say they would use the state to kick down people's doors and forcefully separate gay couples.

>but people like you create problems, they force this ideology down peoples throats and when we say "leave us in peace" you go mental.

What "ideology" am I "forcing" down your throat?

>i dont care about your flags, dont pretend i'm enraged by it, just dont flip out because i'm not dancing and mincing around broadway with you and your civil partner kevin. get over yourself.

I didn't say you were any of this, and nor do I care if you associate with the LGBT movement.

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I have so much respect for you, speaking reason to people who don't want to see it is so difficult but . . .who knows, someone might see your posts and be educated/encouraged by your words.

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So gays need to be "affirmed" by other gays? How nonsensical.

LGBT flags don't hurt anyone but they provoke people, like other in your face propaganda like the aforementioned swastikas, KKK signs, BLM wear, etc., etc. Their sole intention is to divide and incite. If that's what you want to do, be my guest, but be careful. There are CRAZY people out there like those guys that beat that poor kid to within an inch of his life for wearing a shirt that said "All Lives Matter". Easily avoided.

I'm a conservative and I will vote for Trump over Biden, but I don't have any "MAGA" wear, none of my cars have a single bumper sticker on them. I'm a Christian and I don't have a fish or a NOTW decal on my car. I don't advertise my personal beliefs because they are just that: personal and no one cares.

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>So gays need to be "affirmed" by other gays? How nonsensical.

I didn't say they were "affirming" one another. Just that they weren't doing it for straight peoples attention.

>LGBT flags don't hurt anyone but they provoke people, like other in your face propaganda like the aforementioned swastikas, KKK signs, BLM wear, etc., etc.

You are a sensitive little soul if you are provoked by LGBT paraphenelia. Or even BLM badge. It's that simple. America is a free society and people who are offended by what strangers wear in the street can go and fuck themselves and piss off to an authoritarian nation if that's what they think.

Should Muslims women not wear hijabs because it might "provoke" others? Should Christians not wear crosses because it might "provoke" others?

>If that's what you want to do, be my guest, but be careful. There are CRAZY people out there like those guys that beat that poor kid to within an inch of his life for wearing a shirt that said "All Lives Matter". Easily avoided.

And they are all wrong for doing that.

>I'm a conservative and I will vote for Trump over Biden, but I don't have any "MAGA" wear, none of my cars have a single bumper sticker on them. I'm a Christian and I don't have a fish or a NOTW decal on my car. I don't advertise my personal beliefs because they are just that: personal and no one cares.

And plenty of Trump supporters do put stickers all over the back of their car. Do you complain about that as much as you do people wearing LGBT pins?

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Did you not notice that I also mentioned swastikas, etc.? My point and you know it, is a lot of people display this stuff for the sole purpose of dividing and inciting. No minds are changed.

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Swastikas are actually associated with a violent fascist ideology that desires to genocide people.

>My point and you know it, is a lot of people display this stuff for the sole purpose of dividing and inciting. No minds are changed.

And plenty of people do not.

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And BLM and antifa is associated with people who burned, looted, raped and did billions of dollars in damages. Do you condemn them?

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Yes, when that happens. MAGA is also associated with an attempt to storm the Capitol building to stop the certification of an election. Do you condemn that or do you make excuses?

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I definitely think those who were involved were wrong.

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So is MAGA apparel objectionable to you in public?

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You can't see the forest for the trees.

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That's not an answer to my question.

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Review all I've written. The answer in there, multiple times.

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No, it is not. I'll try again: So is MAGA apparel objectionable to you in public?

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I have lead the horse (you) to water. Drink, or do not.

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I'll try again: So is MAGA apparel objectionable to you in public?

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I don't give a rip what people wear or display. I don't get "offended".

People have the right to be in public and/or enter churches or mosques wearing "Gay Jesus" or "Gay Mohamed" shirts because

America is a free society and people who are offended by what strangers wear in the street can go and fuck themselves and piss off to an authoritarian nation if that's what they think.
. People have the right to be provocative. Is it wise? Is it accomplishing anything positive? Should they do that? What usually happens?

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>Should they do that? What usually happens?

In my opinion? Yes. If they think they should get to dictate to others what they may or may not wear, they should leave a country that does not prioritise liberty. Do you disagree with me?

I also notice no comment on you from people who flout MAGA gear in public, or wearing crosses.

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I said I don't wear or even own MAGA gear and wouldn't wear it if I did. Provocation for provocation sake is just plain stupid.

I don't wear crosses or any Christian items because my faith is inside me so I feel it is irrelevant. Crosses, The Star of David, etc., have been around for millennia and are an accepted form of art/jewelry and are not considered offensive by the vast majority of people in the western world. If the rainbow flag or the swastika can last that long, they too will be relegated to meaninglessness.

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>I said I don't wear or even own MAGA gear and wouldn't wear it if I did. Provocation for provocation sake is just plain stupid.

I didn't say you did. I asked if you had any comments on others who do this.

>I don't wear crosses or any Christian items because my faith is inside me so I feel it is irrelevant. Crosses, The Star of David, etc., have been around for millennia and are an accepted form of art/jewelry and are not considered offensive my the vast majority of people in the western world. If the rainbow flag or the swastika can last that long, they too will be relegated to meaninglessness.

Oh I see, so "rules for me but not for thee". "My apparel that signifies a culture is acceptable, but yours is not."

LGBT people do not seek to hurt you, or anyone else. It is not remotely comparable to a swastika.

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If I suddenly reversed what I've been saying, you'd still argue against me. If someone's a conservative, you automatically disagree.

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No, I wouldn't.

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Lol!

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Do you just assume that if someone continues to disagree with you on an issue that they ultimately would never agree with you on anything, and are only doing so to be contrarian?

This suggests a deep level of intellectual narcissism.

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I have never seen you agree with me, even thought all my writing here has been non-partisan.

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I find it laughable that you characterise yourself as non-partisan given some of the comments you've made about leftists and the democrat party.

You're not fascist like some of your fellow travellers here though, like tvfan.

Incidentally - this goes both ways. I've never seen you agree with me.

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"I've never seen you agree with me."

Because you are nowhere near been bipartisan, you are a radical far-leftist.

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How am I a radical far-leftist?

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I'm not non-partisan on some things but I do think the leftist ideology is wrong, hypocritical and corrupt at it's core, as well as the Democrat party, but not all things have to be partisan like basic decency, coexistence and consideration. If people were less concerned about getting in other's faces, the world would be a little bit better. Do you agree?

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That's genuinely just not "non-partisan" at all. It's as simple as that. You might have total conviction in your position, but you are not non-partisan in any meaningful sense.

>If people were less concerned about getting in other's faces, the world would be a little bit better. Do you agree?

Sure.

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I didn't say I'm not non-partisan "at all". I have some liberal views, such as I'm not opposed to gay marriage and I supported legalizing weed, even though I think it's a completely detestable drug.

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P.S. You agreed with my entire point.

P.P.S. Are you gay? No judgement, just curious.

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No, I am not. Do you condone the behaviour of gooseboy65?

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What behavior? I don't know him or his behavior, just as i don't know you or your behavior.

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He's accused me of being a potential school shooter, and keeps accusing me of being gay and speaks of being gay as if every gay person is a flamboyant effeminate highly-sexualised person.

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Evidence please.

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Sure

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/65bcee21c04d086707cc9650/Colorado-trans-teen-who-plotted-mass-school-shooting-in-violent-schizophrenic-manifesto-sentenced-to-6-years?reply=65bd3509c04d086707cc98c1

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I didn't see where he said every gay was flamboyant, etc. I have absolutely no reason to think you would ever be a school shooter, so I disagree with that but you yourself said everyone should be allowed to state their beliefs/opinions. You can't have it both ways. Honestly, he was insulting you to get under your skin and it clearly worked. Everyone here does it including you.

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It's implied with all of the comments he made about gay people, dude. He's leaning into stereotypes.

>Honestly, he was insulting you to get under your skin and it clearly worked. Everyone here does it including you.

Right, and I have reported him to the moderators. This forum has few rules, but insinuating that people are pedophiles, or that they should kill themselves I know already go beyond that.

As I suspect accusing people of being school shooters.

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P.P.P.S. I agree with your pro-Israel stance.

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the thing is, and i've said this before, i had some level of respect for 80s g-ays who essentially wanted to be left in peace, and why not, what does what 2 adults do in bed have to do with me?

but things have now changed. you're correct, why do these people need affirmation? why does a sexual preference, who you want to sleep with... warrant parades, special months. flags, events, certain businesses that are friendly to them!

you can't say it's normal, then expect some special month given to you to celebrate it..

these people went from wanting to being left alone to wanting you put in jail if you didn't "affirm" their lifestyle.

not caring is now simply not enough, even liking it isn't... you have to be offended by it. so they can pretend they are fighting injustice.

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I couldn't have said it better.

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Do you endorse the fact that u/gooseboy65 thinks all gay people are effeminate queens?

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why do people, any people feel the need to advertise their sexuality?


Because it's literally their entire identity. They have nothing else beyond that.

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When Christians wear a cross, is that "literally their entire identity"?

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In response to your last post, so it doesn't continue down the page in ever increasing narrowness, I didn't get the implication at all. Also so I don't think "condone" is a good choice of words. His "behavior" is pretty typical here and I for one am glad the moderation is as lax as it is. What good is having a discussion forum if people are censored. Most here are not too bad in reality. I think we have a happy medium.

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You can already get warned for calling for other users suicides, and a moderator deleted tvfans accusations about me being a groomer.

There are some truly repulsive users here.

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I agree and do my best to not stoop to that, but most of the really nasty people don't generally last because they can't seem to start the dog piles that happen on other sites.

If it helps, I don't think you're a groomer, I'd be sad if you committed suicide and I'm certain you're not gonna shoot up schools or anything else. 😁

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>I agree and do my best to not stoop to that, but most of the really nasty people don't generally last because they can't seem to start the dog piles that happen on other sites.

TVfan has been here for years and routinely hurls repulsive comments at people.

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As do Keelai, TheArgentinian, yatzo, Thaistick-whatever, TrentenQuarantino, etc., etc., etc.

No one is forced to be here. Like I said, other sites are way worse. Guess what? I don't visit them.

Keelai accused me of making racist posst, which I never have and when I said multiple times, "evidence please" (there was none), she reported me. That's one of the reasons I will always call her MC's liar in chief.

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>As do Keelai, TheArgentinian, yatzo, Thaistick-whatever, TrentenQuarantino, etc., etc., etc.

I don't know many of those names that well, but Trenten and Keelai don't get truly nasty like TVfan.

>No one is forced to be here. Like I said, other sites are way worse. Guess what? I don't visit them.

I know no-one is "forced" to be here, but I do think there's a difference between calling someone a name, or even a racist, and then accusing them of being child molesters or school shooters.

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I don't know man, a lot of the lefties here (pretty sure all the ones I mentioned are included) regularly accuse conservatives or having sex with their siblings and/or parents. That's a vile as it gets. Do you "condone their behavior"?

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Not at all. That should also be reported.

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All I'm saying is it goes around. Hopefully most here don't take it too far, but I definitely prefer it being this way than locked down.

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Also, Keelai routinely compares people to Hitler.

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That's no different than me calling TVfan a fascist, in principle.

Which he literally is.

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My point exactly. If you called me a fascist or Hitler or said I have sex with my sister, I wouldn't report you. It's really not a big deal what someone typing at you says.

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the mods obviously do have a line.

Do you agree with me that someone who wants to use the state to bash down LGBT peoples doors and drive them out of public life is likely fascist-leaning?

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Yes.

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By the way, to an extent, I disagree with you. This is a well developed forum (even if rudimentary) that people could use for its actual purpose - discussing film/tv. Instead it's been hijacked by angry outsiders who do nothing other than rant about the left/democrats/progressies/lgbt people or whatever.

It could be so much more than the horseshit it is now.

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There's plenty of outsider leftists who do nothing more than rant against conservatives/Republicans too.

You do know there are forums here to discuss movies/TV and a general discussion forum to discuss anything except politics. If you don't like the politics forums, stay out of them. A lot of people do.

I'm one who discusses movies and general things as well as politics.

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>There's plenty of outsider leftists who do nothing more than rant against conservatives/Republicans too.

I suspect they did so as a reaction to coming here and seeing this place infested with paranoid conspiracy theorists.

>You do know there are forums here to discuss movies/TV and a general discussion forum to discuss anything except politics. If you don't like the politics forums, stay out of them. A lot of people do.

Yes, but it also bleeds into many of those pages.

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Of course. The sweet, innocent leftists are always right and just react. I have news for you, a lot of the whacked out leftists have been here for years spewing lies and hate. It's not reactionary. You'd only be happy if this place was an echo chamber for you and your fellow leftists. Well suck it up or leave. People will never all agree with you. You and your leftist comrades aren't special and you sure ain't right.

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I said nothing about agreement or disagreement. It's more the ugly conduct.

You know I've bashed heads with Keelai and Trent, right?

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They and other lefties here are just as ill mannered and disgusting or worse that anyone else. I've seen quite a few of them call people groomers, incest participants and more. The lefties have no high ground here.

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Why aren't you on Reddit instead? It's the perfect liberal shithole.

You can always go back to filmboards.

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leftists.... adored russia from 1910 up until 1990....

hated it when putin said trump is smart.

and if trump says something negative about putin again, will return to adore it.

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>leftists.... adored russian from 1910 up until 1990....

I never "adored" Russia.

>and if trump says something negative about putin again, will return to adore it.

You think leftists would "adore" a right-wing autocratic regime that persecutes LGBT people?

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yup. leftists use gays and minorites like pets to win votes. they tell them they are victims, use their votes, do nothing for them. leftists gave us the famous phrase "believe women", that was all great and good until it became about israeli women in october and conservative women, then no! forget that!!!!!

wait a minute, what does one of your leftist pfizer sponsored 100% non partial fact checking, 100% truthful websites say about what i just said? yay or nay?

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>yup. leftists use gays and minorites like pets to win votes. they tell them they are victims, use their votes, do nothing for them. leftists gave us the famous phrase "believe women", that was all great and good until it became about israeli women in october and conservative women, then no! forget that!!!!!

What is it you think Republicans will do for LGBT people, exactly?

>wait a minute, what does one of your leftist pfizer sponsored 100% non partial fact checking, 100% truthful websites say about what i just said? yay or nay?

That you're talking a load of baseless garbage.

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i don't want anyone to do anything for g 4 y people, i don't want them to do anything for stra i ght people either. i generally want the state to leave me the f k alone.

why would my bedroom preferences be a political issue, why would a political party need to "do" something for me?? i don't get it...

do you need some special societal help? does the labour council there in the uk send a little white bus for you at 9am everyday, take you to the center!?

of course you love the state for the same reason you love fact checkers, they tell a m0 r0n like you what to think and do. while you bask in this fake saviour complex, you do nothing but f- k things up! literally! i mean literally! literally! you literally do it!

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>i don't want anyone to do anything for g 4 y people, i don't want them to do anything for stra i ght people either. i generally want the state to leave me the f k alone.

Right, many Republicans and Republican representatives don't share this opinion and openly want to squeeze the rights of gay people.

>why would my bedroom preferences be a political issue, why would a political party need to "do" something for me?? i don't get it...

My point here is that many Republicans actually do want to persecute gay people. So why would they vote for them?

>of course you love the state for the same reason you love fact checkers, they tell a m0 r0n like you what to think and do. while you bask in this fake saviour complex, you do nothing but f- k things up! literally! i mean literally! literally! you literally do it!

What the fuck are you on about?

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i've met so many people like you, the worst thing a straight person could tell you is "you're gay, ahh ok, great"

you cream off the so called "opression" you love the idea that you're some how opressed and people want to ban homosexuality. it makes you think and believe you're fighting for something and in doing so your life isn't a totalwaste of time.

i'm so conservative i think that trump is on the left. but i couldn't care less what you do with your civil partner mike. to be honest it bores me.

now get over it you queen.

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>i've met so many people like you, the worst thing a straight person could tell you is "you're gay, ahh ok, great"

No, the worst thing a straight person could do is openly support sodomy laws.

Also, I'm not gay.

>you cream off the so called "opression" you love the idea that you're some how opressed and people want to ban homosexuality. it makes you think and believe you're fighting for something and in doing so your life isn't a totalwaste of time.

I'm not gay.

And Mike Johnson, the current Speaker of the House openly argued in favour of sodomy laws. His public record suggests he has had no change of position.

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/with_replies

This twitter documents all the hateful, idiotic and absurd shit that the far-right in the USA say. Much of which includes threats to LGBT people.

>i'm so conservative i think that trump is on the left. but i couldn't care less what you do with your civil partner mike. to be honest it bores me.

I'm not gay.

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Ok, so you are definitely 100% Gaaaay.

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Based on what?

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if mike says it's wrong, and you say it's right... why do you win?

i'm playing devils advocate here, one person says it's wrong, another says it's right?

doesn't the left preach moral relativism? this is mikes opinion, isn't he allowed it? fascism is when one person forces his views on another and says thats the only way to think, you wouldn't want to do that would you?

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>if mike says it's wrong, and you say it's right... why do you win?

Mike is feel free to think what he wants. But he is a public representative, and now a major face of the Republican Party. Why would LGBT people vote for a party that elevates such a person to such a position?

>doesn't the left preach moral relativism? this is mikes opinion, isn't he allowed it? fascism is when one person forces his views on another and says thats the only way to think, you wouldn't want to do that would you?

Sure. But Mike doesn't respect gay people's rights. He thinks he should get to destroy their lives.

Doesn't that make Mike a fascist?

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saying he doesn't agree with something on twitter isn't "destroying peoples lives" cupcake

if you're in birmingham, london, kent... wherever or even here in the US, about to go crusing with your boytoy. and someone posts something like this on social media, how is it fascist and how is it destroying your life sweetheart?

you're still fabulous? the sex and city reboot is still coming back for a third season oooookkaaayyy.

listen dollface, nobody is opressing you, twitter comments aren't "destroying peoples lives"

i get that the victim complex is the new black, but you're being silly. nobody is taking you serious sweety.

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>saying he doesn't agree with something on twitter isn't "destroying peoples lives" cupcake

He doesn't have the power to do it, but if he could, he would legislate to remove LGBT rights.

Why would LGBT people vote for a party that elevates such a person to such a position? Would you expect Christians to vote for a candidate like Christopher Hitchens?

>if you're in birmingham, london, kent... wherever or even here in the US, about to go crusing with your boytoy. and someone posts something like this on social media, how is it fascist and how is it destroying your life sweetheart?

I'm not gay. I've told you this repeatedly.

This is why I think you're a hateful sack of shit. You continue to spread lies about people and can only think of LGBT people in terms of stereotypes. You are a nasty piece of work.

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They loved Elon and all wanted Teslas before he bought Twitter...

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