For those who operate under the delusion that it's only a right wing phenomenon. Very interesting. Your get out of jail card is hereby revoked.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-023-04463-x
Interesting article but don't have the time to read it all. It fails to mention Jan 6th was a setup by the left to usher in the Era of Authoritarianism we are currently living in.
share?
What specifically are you referring to here in terms of "left-wing authoritarianism"? How is your freedom impacted?
Look at the numerous speeches Retard Joe has made where he call half the country "enemies of the state". If President Trump is reelected he is going to have to pardon every political prisoner either awaiting trial or already locked up over Jan 6th. I fear there are "plants" here on this board that could come after me for my posts here.
shareJoe Biden did not call half the country "enemies of the state". He referred to "MAGA Republicans" as threats to democracy.
What political prisoners, precisely?
>I fear there are "plants" here on this board that could come after me for my posts here.
So why haven't they? Why do people in the USA who are openly critical of Joe Biden operate publicly, under their full name? These are nobodies. These are activists, politicians, journalists, influencers who use Twitter and Facebook, attend public functions. If Biden is so authoritarian, why hasn't he arrested half of Fox News, and shut down the Daily Wire and associated movements and individuals?
Yes he did!! The only Republicans he's not referring to are the RINOs who are also a part of the Deep State and globalists as well.
shareNo, he did not. He referred to "MAGA Republicans" as threats to democracy in a specific speech.
>The only Republicans he's not referring to are the RINOs who are also a part of the Deep State and globalists as well.
What does this even mean?
And you didn't answer my question: Why do people in the USA who are openly critical of Joe Biden operate publicly, under their full name? These are nobodies. These are activists, politicians, journalists, influencers who use Twitter and Facebook, attend public functions. If Biden is so authoritarian, why hasn't he arrested half of Fox News, and shut down the Daily Wire and associated movements and individuals?
LOL, are you actually expecting an old senile “puppet on a string” to behave like a ranting screaming/kicking Hitler to demonstrate his authoritarianism?!…no need to answer that, it was rhetorical.
why hasn't he arrested half of Fox News, and shut down the Daily Wire and associated movements and individuals?
>LOL, are you actually expecting an old senile “puppet on a string” to behave like a ranting screaming/kicking Hitler to demonstrate his authoritarianism?!…no need to answer that, it was rhetorical.
In a way - yes. Authoritarianism is defined by implementing oppressive legislation designed to restrict the rights of specific groups, repress political opposition.
>Ever heard of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Amendments, and of course the illusion of Democracy (aka indirect democracy/representative democracy)?!…last time you ignored all of those.
Right, so he can't actually do it even if he wanted to.
So what is this age of US authoritarianism you guys keep referring to?
>Not that you will bother watching it but here is a 1985 13-min video from a KGB defector explaining “the brainwashing” that starts with demoralization. You are a perfect example of that brainwashing.
What the hell does this have to do with anything?
The targetting of 1/6 rioters, while ignoring the far more numerious lefty rioters of the Trump years,
is a clear violation of their rights (equal protection clause) and makes them political prisoners.
FOr ONE example.
>The targetting of 1/6 rioters, while ignoring the far more numerious lefty rioters of the Trump years,
Are you saying people should just be allowed, legally, to storm into congress whilst its in session?
And I see no evidence that those rioters were ignored. Many were arrested - but it turns out that trying to charge Congress generally carries a harsher punishment.
What about murder? Does that carry a harsher punishment too? Cause the lefty riots were far deadlier than the one righty riot.
And no, pointing out the double standard is not a call for doing nothing. It is a call for a single standard of justice, ie one size fits all regardless of political affiliation.
You know, JUSTICE.
>What about murder? Does that carry a harsher punishment too? Cause the lefty riots were far deadlier than the one righty riot.
Any examples of people that committed murder in the US that were let off?
Well, yes. But my focus was on the difference between the massive focus on the 1/6 riot and the lack of anything like that on the far more deadly riots of the left.
That is not about a specific murderer, but the widespread and deadly riots...
Were you really confused by that, or just trying to change the subject?
My point about the double standard stands.
>Well, yes. But my focus was on the difference between the massive focus on the 1/6 riot and the lack of anything like that on the far more deadly riots of the left.
Plenty of people were arrested and jailed for those things.
And plenty were NOT.
And there has been ZERO attempt at after the fact follow up or investigation as per what has been done for the 1/6 riot.
Will you now address my point regarding that difference in treatment or do you want to keep pretending to not understand it?
>And plenty were NOT.
Plenty of people at the capitol riots weren't arrested either.
>And there has been ZERO attempt at after the fact follow up or investigation as per what has been done for the 1/6 riot.
Can you please refer to some specific riots please for context?
My point was clearly not about any specific riot, but about the overall lack of attempt to investigate afterwards the lefty riots as a whole.
Asking for a specific riot is simply you running away from a clear and simple point.
Their is a double standard. That is a violation of the human rights of the accused. As that violation is based on politics, all the prisoners are thus political prisoners.
For they are imprisoned not primarily for their crimes, because we can see that the government doesn't give a DAMN about those crimes, but only uses them as an excuse to hammer their political enemies.
>My point was clearly not about any specific riot, but about the overall lack of attempt to investigate afterwards the lefty riots as a whole.
It's not really surprising to me that the state would take a lot more seriously an attempt to invade Congress more than they would city riots, which, unfortunately - happen a lot in the USA generally. A lot of the riots too are pretty uncontroversial - there's nothing really to investigate - the origins were known, and the effects were known.
Are you suggesting a huge national inquiry for every single riot?
I'm suggesting nothing. I am clearly stating that hundreds of riots with many people killed and hundreds of millions of dollars in damage, is at least EQUAL to the one 1.6 riot,
and that for the government to go after the one smaller group of rioters from 1/6 and to ignore the far more numerous rioters of the other riots,
is a double standard and thus a violation of their human rights and makes them thus political prisoners.
Would you like to address that now, or do we want to go over that a few dozen more times?
You think every single riot in the USA should have years investigations behind it?
This is just utterly bonkers. Plenty of people in the USA get arrested for riots, and did. They're just a lot less notable than the Capitol riots. What is there to investigate? How do you know local law enforcement doesn't do follow-up raids? Do you have evidence that the proportion of people arrested in the capitol riots was higher than many BLM riots?
How much congressional investigations were done over who was behind the riots and what their plans were and to hold them resopnsible for their crimes?
Hint, it rhymes with "Hero".
>How much congressional investigations were done over who was behind the riots and what their plans were and to hold them resopnsible for their crimes?
I've already answered this. Street/city riots are often spontaneous and there's no real mystery or conspiracy behind them. What do you want to investigate? Do you want like 30+ concurrent investigations going on at once or something?
It is cool that you just know that the hundreds of riots were not organized by the criminal, violent, terrorist groups that advocate violence against the government and society.
What I want, I will repeat again, I want equal justice for people, regardless of their political affiliation.
Either give the people behind the 1/6 riot the pass you gave all the others, OR give them the same witch hunt you gave the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
>It is cool that you just know that the hundreds of riots were not organized by the criminal, violent, terrorist groups that advocate violence against the government and society.
How do you know there aren't local follow-up investigations? I know you don't like answering questions but: Do you have evidence that the proportion of people arrested in the capitol riots was higher than many BLM riots?
>Either give the people behind the 1/6 riot the pass you gave all the others, OR give them the same witch hunt you gave the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
Who is getting passed? You haven't even cited any sources here.
We can see the witch hunts and heavy sentences handed out to the 1/6 rioters, while there is nothing being done about the antifa and blm rioters.
You want a source? About what? Are you not aware of the massive investigations and trials against the 1/6 rioters? How would I link to a LACK of such efforts aimed at antifa and blm?
LOL.
>We can see the witch hunts and heavy sentences handed out to the 1/6 rioters, while there is nothing being done about the antifa and blm rioters.
>You want a source? About what? Are you not aware of the massive investigations and trials against the 1/6 rioters? How would I link to a LACK of such efforts aimed at antifa and blm?
Source for your claim that Antifa and BLM rioters never get charged with anything.
You said that before, repeatedly and I repeatedly pointed out that the government is going after the 1/6 rioters with congressional investigations and massive investigations and doing nothing similar for the antifa and blm rioters.
That is my point, the double standard. Your pointing to the rioters that happened to be arrested DURING the riots, by street cops, does not address it at all.
As you obviously realize.
Would you like to address my point now, or would you like to have me explain it to you AGAIN?
>You said that before, repeatedly and I repeatedly pointed out that the government is going after the 1/6 rioters with congressional investigations and massive investigations and doing nothing similar for the antifa and blm rioters.
Because it was an attack, or is treated as an attack on democracy. Vandalism in cities is just not viewed as the same.
If the Houses of Parliament in the Uk were raided by a swarm of protesters whilst in session, it would command much more long-term attention than some riots in Bristol or Cardiff.
I don't know why this surprises you. If a bunch of Democrats swarmed Congress after Trump was sworn in in 2017, the same shit would happen. Threatening the seat of government is a big deal.
People dying is pretty serious.
Thus your pretense that it was just "vandalism" is you being dishonest in support of them.
A double standard of going after right leaning rioters, as few as there are, with massive witch hunts, while not going after the far more numerous and deadly left leaning rioters,
is tryanny and oppression. Those in jail, are thus political prisoners.
That bit, where you pretended that murder was just vandalism?
That is you getting caught as being on the side of the left rioters and the goverment thugs that are giving them a pass.
>People dying is pretty serious.
Yes, and any examples of people being let off for murder during some of those riots?
>Thus your pretense that it was just "vandalism" is you being dishonest in support of them.
At no point have I ever supported them. I do not support riots. Looting as well, sure.
>A double standard of going after right leaning rioters, as few as there are, with massive witch hunts, while not going after the far more numerous and deadly left leaning rioters,
Any examples of leftists rioters currently free?
>is tryanny and oppression. Those in jail, are thus political prisoners.
Did any of them not do what they are accused of doing?
>That bit, where you pretended that murder was just vandalism?
Any examples of people being let off for murder during some of those riots?
Sources or GTFO
The fact that the rioters of the left are not being pursued after teh fact, while the right leaning rioters are,
is a double standard.
You've at teh same time, denied this double standard AND denied it.
And minimized the deaths the left leaning riots caused by callling them vandalism.
>The fact that the rioters of the left are not being pursued after teh fact, while the right leaning rioters are,
Not by the federal government though. I expect this is because as I said:
"If the Houses of Parliament in the Uk were raided by a swarm of protesters whilst in session, it would command much more long-term attention than some riots in Bristol or Cardiff.
I don't know why this surprises you. If a bunch of Democrats swarmed Congress after Trump was sworn in in 2017, the same shit would happen. Threatening the seat of government is a big deal".
Still waiting on some sources for murders ignored, or arsonists ignored, or looters ignored.
I don't think it would. We got oddly used to "mostly peaceful protestors" dong all kinds of shit and we just let it ride, mostly.
It was not until a group of RIGHT leaning protestors got out of hand and rioted that suddenly the government decided to crack down.
>I don't think it would. We got oddly used to "mostly peaceful protestors" dong all kinds of shit and we just let it ride, mostly.
Any group raiding Congress would not be ignored dude, no matter who they are.
They did plenty of shit, up to and including killing a cop, and people just sort of accepted it.
The difference is NOT where or what was done, the difference is WHO did it.
Lefties? "mostly peaceful".
Righties? " TREASON".
>They did plenty of shit, up to and including killing a cop, and people just sort of accepted it.
What cop was killed that people accepted? Or are you referring to the Capitol riots?
>Righties? " TREASON".
That particular group, yes.
The whole political correctness movement, which is now known as "woke" is a measure to silence conservatives and limit discourse. Conservatives voices are being forced out of college campuses, censored on social media and 95% of the mainstream news is controlled by leftists who slander us and mislead the American people all day long.
shareThe "PC" movement long predates January the 6th, and I am specifically referring to legislation here. What legislation is passed that restricts your civil liberties?
Private companies taking a partisan position is something they simply have the right to do.
No shit sherlock. You obviously didn't read the article if all you can do is reference Jan 6.
Oh well then I guess it's all okay then for one side of the political spectrum to control the flow of information and use that to slander and silence the opposition.
>No shit sherlock. You obviously didn't read the article if all you can do is reference Jan 6.
I was specifically referring to the claim by u/blue1981 that "Jan 6th was a setup by the left to usher in the Era of Authoritarianism we are currently living in."
>Oh well then I guess it's all okay then for one side of the political spectrum to control the flow of information and use that to slander and silence the opposition.
I didn't suggest it was okay necessarily. Just noting that it is not a government issue. Being banned from Facebook is not a violation of your civil liberties. What rights do you think social media companies have regarding regulating their own users, and how far should it go?
Social media has legal protections that should've been revoked long ago. When we have a republican controlled congress, that will happen. We want "free" speech. Truly free. You want to win. That is the distinction.
shareYou do realise that removing those legal protections will instantly destroy all social media, right? They will just shut down rather than risk being prosecuted.
>We want "free" speech. Truly free. You want to win. That is the distinction.
Define "truly free" speech here. What do you mean specifically?
Your side wants to win too, Cletus. Why is that a bad thing? I don't think that you know how free speech works. It looks like your home schooling has failed you.
shareYour side wants to win too
>-We want individual liberty to sacrifice children (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to be immoral degenerates (done)
I mean. What are you calling "immoral degenerates"? If by this you just mean LGBT stuff, then yes. Civil liberties matter. Are you saying people should not be allowed to be LGBT by law?
>-We want individual liberty to sexualize and groom children (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to castrate and mutilate children (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to be racist against whites (done)
No.
>-We want individual liberty to destroy women’s place in all areas using the trans (done)
I don't.
>-We want individual liberty to censor and cancel anyone that opposes us (done)
No.
You are displaying your stupidity and gullibility here. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I support any of your above claims.
shareIt makes no difference whether you agree or disagree, the only thing worse than a lefty that is out in the open and does not deny that they are a lefty is a hypocritical and disingenuous impostor, impersonator, and pretender…….Own it.
shareI couldn't care less what you think about me. You are just an insignificant anonymous user on a public message board who continues to show their stupidity and gullibility.
shareI couldn't care less what you think about me. You are just an insignificant anonymous user
I'm sick and tired of the constant complaining by cons that their voice is not heard. Private media has a right to publish what they want. There are plenty of places for you to get your conspiracy fix--Fox News, the most-watched channel in the nation, is nothing but right-wing hate and disinfo 24/7. Sounds like what you want is not freedom of speech, but government intrusion into the politics of private entities, and rule by fiat over governmental entities.
shareAnd if the roles were reversed, you'd be throwing a fit like a 2yr old. Like they're doing over Musk buying Twitter.
shareWhat will happen when you get what you want? The roles are not reversing. On the contrary. Say your wildest political dreams are realised? In your lifetime (I'm assuming you are older than 2 yrs, because 2 yr olds don't understand the concept of brainwashing). What will you do?
shareLive in peace and keep more of my money.
shareWhat is stopping you from living in peace NOW? You do realise that life is not that long, right? If you are in your mid 20s, and you drink the occasional glass of wine or beer daily, and you live a sedentary lifestyle, and if you are overweight, you will probably die in 45-50 years. Why wait?
shareBecause if we don't stop this lunacy now, there won't be a future to look forward to, or an America to call home.
shareOh I see. You are being noble. Try a little experiment. The next time you go to a protest, just count on which side the word 'hates' appears more in their slogans. Try to remember your holy books, and compare their messages to the messages your pastors and grifter politicians are providing to you.
If you want to bring back the 50s, what future do you hope to espy on the horizon? If you want to keep the nonwhites in their place, what place will be reserved for you in history? If like your fallen brothers, you would rather die than accept healthcare, what is the rationale behind this? If you consider your hate as the emblazonment of righteousness, why do pictures of your crowd show snarls, and little beady hateful expressions?
I have two businesses to run, no time for protests.
You obviously have no friggin' clue what messages my pastors are providing to me. None whatsoever.
Who said anything about the 50's? Or suppressing non-whites? Or hatred??? Stop projecting.
Who said anything about the 50's?
So if I go through your posting history, I won't find examples of you making such stances?
I may not have businesses to run, but my time is not going to be spent trying to expose the chronic and serial lying that you indulge in.
My posts were never about proving you as a dim hypocrite. It was of course, not about changing your mind.
It was simply about giving some of the posters here some support.
Your brothers and sisters tried to stop female emancipation and failed.
Your kith and kin tried to prevent the ending of slavery and they failed.
Your idols tried to prevent the removal of confederacy totems and they failed.
Your brethren tried to put the kibosh on the Civil Rights movement and it failed.
Your politicians tried to cut taxes from the 70s to now and succeeded. Your loss.
Your side has lobbied for the curtailing of trade unions and succeeded. Your loss.
Your own womenfolk have canvassed for changes in abortion laws. Your loss.
Your friends dropped out of college and are proud of it. Your loss.
Another clueless and brainwashed liberal:
The Truth and Shameful Legacy of the Democrats:
https://postimg.cc/Lq37NSsK
Your stupid meme proves nothing. You really are a dumbass and very gullible.
shareMemes are the best method to properly communicate with imbeciles and idiots like you; after all, you should know since you are constantly using the same conspiracy tin-foil cat meme.
Btw, is Luffy one of your sock accounts?
Uh, no.
I'm not a liar or a hypocrite.
The rest of your post is a bunch of made up bullshit. Proof you don't know me or what I believe in.
Unlike your ilk, I actually believe in equality for all, including women and minorities. Actual equality. No affirmative action. No diversity hiring. No quotas. Merit alone without any special considerations.
I'm not even going to attempt to educate you about "confederate totems".
You like paying taxes? I don't.
Unions have long outlived their usefulness. Now they exist only to perpetuate themselves. Of course, those who can't survive on merit still cling to them.
Most pro-life voters are women. Because killing your unborn children is inherently evil.
I don't know what your last line is supposed to mean. I finished college and my wife got her masters in five years. That said, "higher" education is highly overrated. Because these days it amounts to little more than liberal indoctrination. we have a whole generation of entitled liberal losers who thought a $100k/yr job would be waiting for them.
Lies. Fox news and conservatives do not foment hate. That's your DNC propaganda talking. ALL the hate on mainstream news comes from CNN and worse, MSNBC. And it's networks like those that created the market for Fox. I don't want news slanted in either direction but I'll could no longer stomach the obvious liberal bias on CNN. Liberals are notoriously dimwitted and unreflective, so you probably think there is no liberal bias on those networks.
shareAdmittedly, there was some misinformation about Jan 6 in there but that could be due to the timing of the research.
shareHahahaha ... aren't you in enough trouble and busy enough not to have time for this kind of BS Donald? ;-)
shareRight wing ideology is split between the Libertarians and Hardcore Christians. It is inherently divided. Left wing authoritarianism is more prevalent, and much much worse due to the left being naturally united, and the right naturally divided.
True right wing authoritarianism would (most-likely)produce super-intelligent, and super-strong citizens ready and willing to serve, defend, and be a stakeholder in their home countries...where as left wing authoritarianism produces state-dependent garbage-people that need propaganda, lies, and deception to exist with any trace of motivation to be a competent member of whatever society the left thinks they are trying to achieve.
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Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people.
Leftists always lie.
Wokeness is Weakness.
>Right wing ideology is split between the Libertarians and Hardcore Christians. It is inherently divided. Left wing authoritarianism is more prevalent, and much much worse due to the left being naturally united, and the right naturally divided.
Dude, the left is not remotely united - what are you on about.
Communists, Democratic Socialists, Anarchists (Anarcho-Communists/Syndicalists), Social Democrats, Environmentalists, Progressives, Left-Libertarianism
For context there's like up to 10 nationally represented left-leaning parties in France.
>True right wing authoritarianism would (most-likely)produce super-intelligent, and super-strong citizens ready and willing to serve, defend, and be a stakeholder in their home countries...where as left wing authoritarianism produces state-dependent garbage-people that need propaganda, lies, and deception to exist with any trace of motivation to be a competent member of whatever society the left thinks they are trying to achieve.
What are some examples of "true-right wing authoritarianism" exactly? And what are its legislative components
I'm talking about the US. US and European left/right dichotomies are not, and do not work the same. I have zero opinion on Europe as I do not live there.
The left in the US is very coordinated, controlled, own all the major media outlets, and are protected by democrat politicians. They hold almost all the political power in the US right now, yet still think they are fighting some "machine" from the 1990s.
What are some examples of "true-right wing authoritarianism" exactly? And what are its legislative components
>I'm talking about the US. US and European left/right dichotomies are not, and do not work the same. I have zero opinion on Europe as I do not live there.
There's also a number of left-wing parties in the US too. Sure, the US is different because it has a rigid two-party system but the notion that US leftists are united is utter nonsense.
>None exist because, like I said, The religious right and libertarian right are inherently at odds with each other and probably always will be. The closest example I could think of would be Starship Troopers.
So you are speaking like a Communist might
"True right-wing authoritarianism has never been tried!"
>The closest example I could think of would be Starship Troopers.
So a fanatical military dictatorship lmao
Umm, communism has been tried over and over and fails every time lol.
So a fanatical military dictatorship lmao
>Umm, communism has been tried over and over and fails every time lol.
Indeed, but if you talk to a communist you'll hear them say "True Communism hasn't been tried"
You're literally doing that with far-right authoritarianism.
Their cult-like behavior is disgusting. The fact that they act like authoritarian assholes and witch-hunters towards Republicans, who just want America to be normal again, just shows how far-gone they are. Can you believe these creatures truly believe they're the "good guys?" That they're "protecting Democracy" from a Hitler-like figure like Trump? When their own elected body is behaving more Hitler-esque than Trump ever did?
Their hypocrisy is particularly gross. They get angry and upset when we speak the truth, calling us "hateful" and "bigoted," "terrorists," that we're "dangerous" and "committing violence" with just words, when they're the ones looting, rioting, setting stuff on fire in cities, threatening people's jobs, hurting children at schools, letting people into the country that have committed every known crime in the book, and think homeless, illegal immigrants, and real terrorists should be treated better than our veterans! Who's the real villain here?
You can bet they would be lined up, cheering and shouting cruel words, saying we "deserved it," if their current regime got away with marching white, straight, Christian Republicans away to death camps and had our kids taken away to be raised by the state. Then they'll be totally clueless as to why we got out the guns and had states like Texas secede from the union for real.
They see the injustice in everyone's behavior but their own. The least inward-looking people on the planet.
shareGee, reminds me of the lyrics of "The Bells of Notre Dame" when describing Judge Frollo:
Judge Claude Frollo longed
To purge the world of vice and sin
And he saw corruption everywhere, except within
They're falling for the idea of trying to right historical "injustices" against minorities and fringe groups in the US, while turning into the very monster they claim to be fighting. Oh, to hold up a mirror and show them for the fools they are...
You honestly think "You can bet they would be lined up, cheering and shouting cruel words, saying we "deserved it," if their current regime got away with marching white, straight, Christian Republicans away to death camps and had our kids taken away to be raised by the state. Then they'll be totally clueless as to why we got out the guns and had states like Texas secede from the union for real."
That those are the words of someone who is sane? She honestly believes that every single person who votes Democrat wants to kill all Christian Republicans?
She is not well.
I give you Germany, 1930's.
shareAnd so how does the USA right now compare to Weimar Germany in 1930-33? Be specific please.
And I would probably advise against making this analogy since most far-right organisations in the US resemble DNVP and NSDAP associated groups. It won't make you look good.
The rampant slandering, demonization, dehumanization and silencing of conservatives. The mainstream propaganda machine that marches to the DNC's drums. All those things going on right now that YOU pretend aren't. Just like the average German citizen while the Nazi's were ramping up their anti-Semite propaganda.
share>The rampant slandering, demonization, dehumanization and silencing of conservatives.
You do realise in late-stage Weimar Republic there was ongoing street fights between paramilitary organisations in the capital? And two political parties openly calling for the end of democracy?
Provide some specific examples here please.
>The mainstream propaganda machine that marches to the DNC's drums. All those things going on right now that YOU pretend aren't. Just like the average German citizen while the Nazi's were ramping up their anti-Semite propaganda.
Again, you are just pumping out claims without evidence. A press that criticises you (as it also criticises the left) is not remotely comparable to the Weimar republic.
Antifa and BLM are using nazi style street fighting to try to silence and intimidate political opposition. Often with active or implicit support from "mainstream" dem/lib government officials or university or ect administrators.
(yes the body count is lower at this time but it is likely to only escalate, imo)
The cancel culture is a similar force, though more similar to Chinese struggle sessions than from fascist tactics in Germany.
>Antifa and BLM are using nazi style street fighting to try to silence and intimidate political opposition. Often with active or implicit support from "mainstream" dem/lib government officials or university or ect administrators.
Show me some examples please.
Can we call the Proud boys and far-right associated groups also doing similar things?
Examples are everywhere. You request reeks of silly troll games.
The Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers do NOT attack speakers to silence them or intimidate them and do NOT have the support of local politicians like the Lefty thugs do.
So, no completely different.
I await examples.
>The Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers do NOT attack speakers to silence them or intimidate them and do NOT have the support of local politicians like the Lefty thugs do.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/19/proud-boys-document-jan-6-violence
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/oath-keepers-meeting-transcript-jan-6-violence-1351912/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-supporting-bigots-to-target-upstate-new-york-muslims
https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2018/07/04/maga-mayhem-fractures-a-mans-skull-as-right-wing-marchers-test-the-limits-of-free-speech-in-portland/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/nyregion/proud-boys-verdict-trial.html
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/01/25/proud-boy-threatens-portland-mayor-im-coming-you
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/far-right-proud-boys-menaced-twitter-user-on-his-doorstep_n_5b06de68e4b07c4ea1060e92
https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/30/police-arrest-far-right-protester-who-pointed-gun-at-portland-rally/
1. You are welcome to wait, if that is your choice. BUt the antifa and blm thugs are still my example of the Left using nazi tactics, WORKING WITH THE DEMS.
2. With the except of 1/6, the ONE right leaning protest that got out of hand and degenerated into a riot, the Proud BOys' S.T.O.P. has been to march and wait to be attacked and then defend themselves.
Meanwhile antif and blm has been operating as I described, for years, with years of examples of political violence.
Thus strongly supporting the claim that the Left in America are operating "as per weimar germany".
There are plenty of examples of antifa people being arrested dude. 14,000+ people were arrested during the George Floyd blowback.
And there are plenty of examples of Proud Boys people being arrested for threatening others, and assault.
>Thus strongly supporting the claim that the Left in America are operating "as per weimar germany".
And what democratic institutions are they targeted? What policies are associated political parties pushing through to restrict opposition? Street violence getting worse doesn't just mean "country about to slip into fascism". The Weimar Republic had open paramilitary groups operating across the country. The Communists were openly for overthrowing democracy and replacing it with a Stalinist-style state. The Nazis were openly against it. The DNVP were openly against it. What parties in the US are openly against, and plan to overthrow democracy?
There are also plenty of examples of them NOT being arrested or local authorities caving to "pressure" and being "forced" to cancel speakers for fear of violence from lefties.
That right leaning protestors are arrested, is not evidence that they deserved to be arrested, not in dem cities. YOu people have proved that you are prepared to arrest teh wrong people for political reasons, see Rittenhouse for one extreme example.
I await examples. Not commenting until you do.
>That right leaning protestors are arrested, is not evidence that they deserved to be arrested, not in dem cities. YOu people have proved that you are prepared to arrest teh wrong people for political reasons, see Rittenhouse for one extreme example.
He handed himself in and won his case. I agree the left was fucking stupid there. And in the Nicholas Sandmann incident.
That's fine. We both know it's true. The left is operating brownshirts, in antifa and blm, and in good nazi tradition, often giving them political cover up to and including arresting the people who the thugs attack, such as Rittenhouse.
Indeed, everyone reading this knows it's true. THe lefty brownshirts have been terrorizing and attacking people for years, well before Trump hit the scene in fact.
Lol yet again refusing to provide proof. You must have been a spoiled child growing up. Anything I say goes I do not have to provide proof for any of my claims.
shareLefties demanding proof of shit we both know is true, is nonsense that I feel no need to... treat seriously.
Also, you are a fag.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
shareExcept, you lefty trolls are shit talkers and hyou know it.
shareNope my point stands. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
shareI am NOT going to try to gather evidence that you are a fag. We both know it. Also, yech!!!
shareLol and I am the trash talker?
shareWow. I've only said it to you like a thousands times.
YOU ARE A SHIT TALKER. YOu talk shit.
The eternal question, are you really that stupid, or was this just more of you talking shit?
Why should I answer your question?
shareOut of pride. You would rather been seen as a troll than actually being retarded.
Lol you ignore my questions so I will ignore yours.
shareI only ignore your questions because you are a retarded troll and you don't really ask questions.
I'm not you, so I deserve some level of civility.
No you don't deserve any. Scumbags don't get any not on my watch.
shareDude. Everyone knows you are teh scum bag. And deserve to be treated as such.
ME? I'm a nice guy, fully human with a soul. I deserve far different treatment.
You don't like it? Stop being you.
You are not a good person that is a lie from you.
sharelol. Sure I am. Good back, read teh earlier posts between us. It took you months of being a complete asshole to get me to stop being nice to you. That was incredibly human of me, while you are a soulless pychopath.
share>That's fine. We both know it's true. The left is operating brownshirts, in antifa and blm, and in good nazi tradition, often giving them political cover up to and including arresting the people who the thugs attack, such as Rittenhouse.
Oh okay, I guess there should've been no investigation behind Rittenhouse. Is that what you're alleging?
I note you ignored this:
And what democratic institutions are they targeted? What policies are associated political parties pushing through to restrict opposition? Street violence getting worse doesn't just mean "country about to slip into fascism". The Weimar Republic had open paramilitary groups operating across the country. The Communists were openly for overthrowing democracy and replacing it with a Stalinist-style state. The Nazis were openly against it. The DNVP were openly against it. What parties in the US are openly against, and plan to overthrow democracy?
1. There was not an "investigation" of rittenhouse. THe local dems launched an attempted railroading of him. They wanted to blame him for the violence and to put him in prison because they sided iwth the lefty blm rioters.
2. What democratic institution are they targetting? Well, clearly Freedom of Speech and the very concept of Public Debate.
3. What policies? I suggest you check out the congressional investigations into the way the Left has weaponized government to terrorize and intimidate right leaning Americans.
1. No matter what dumbass shit the peanut gallery was saying, there would always have to be an investigation for something like that. And he won his case.
2. Evidence please. Name these laws proposed.
3. I reject your premise that the investigations into January 6th constitute an attempt to terrorise right-leaning Americans. Nor the arrest of people from Proud Boys and associated groups for making threats, or assaulting other people.
1. There would not have been a trial. The video clearly shows a mob being led by a madman who had publicly stated his intent to murder someone attacking Rittenhouse who defended himself.
That the left leaning local dems tried to put a man in prison for defending himself, shows what kind of people they are, and what kind of nation they want.
You know, the closer you look at hte case, the worse it gets. Did you know that they were tryihng to make a case that he was violating gun law, because he was a minor, at the same time they were tryhing him as an adult? That is shit only a man without a soul could do.
2. Laws? I was talking more of violent assaults, but we often see lefties arguing for HATE SPEECH laws, like they have in teh UK where people have been arrested for posting words online.
3. 1/6 is bad, but it goes well beyond that. There was a man that pushed a woman at a protest. The man was right leaning. Would you think that that requires a swat team style raid?
1. Right. And that should come out and be determined IN A TRIAL. As it was.
The gun law charges would've have managed much of a penalty if I recall.
2. I live in the UK, and hate speech legislation, though I don't like it - has been here for a long time and does not derive from the left. Show me some of these bills proposing hate speech laws in the US please.
3. Show me the source here please.
1. Nope. There was no need of a trail. THe events were clear. Violent lefty mob attacked a young man who defended himself. THe Dems were not trying to find out what happened in court. They knew what happened. They were offended that someone shot members of their lefty mob and tried to put him in jail because the dems were/are on the side of the antifa and blm brownshirts.
And they had crafted an argument to use that to justify MURDER CHARGES. It was bullshit. But that was what they tried to do. Thank god they failed.
2. They are certainly being used by teh Left now. And plenty on the lefty here want to do the same.
3. I've been watching mostly shorts but there is a ton of it.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=weaponization+of+government+hearing
2.
1. Disagree. The Dems didn't control the trial. Rittenhouse won, and was widely expected to win a long time before the verdict was called.
2. I don't care what random people on the left want here. I asked you what politicians from the Dems are calling for it. In addition, no, there have been people caught up by our laws who are not leftists.
3. What does this, specifically, have to do with the Democrats current actions here? This is an investigation into Big Tech, which I know you absurdly think that Reddit shouldn't be allowed to ban people for insulting others.
1. The dems tried. Thankfully their case was weak as shit and they failed.
2. What are the percentages running at currently? I bet the numbers are not even tracked. That's standard operating lefty procedure.
3. It is a lot more than that, and it is left leaning government officials abusing their power, to terrorize and arrest and oppress right leaning people.
1. Who bought the case forward, exactly?
2. Percentages of what?
3. Examples please.
1. Local dems, becasue they sided with blm mob.
2. Of those arrested under the law we were discussing. Very normal for lefties to not track results of such laws, so they can talk shit and avoid being judged based on facts.
3. Here is one discussing a lefty directing the fbi to track parents who protest at school boards. In this case it includes a man who's daughter was raped at a school and the school covered it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV5G1RzdAU0
1. Sources?
2. Do you have any data breakdown here? Are you talking about hate speech in the UK here?
3. There's more historical context to this. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-education-threats/
Also, I'm tired of asking this - but why isn't Tucker Carlson arrested? Why isn't the Daily Wire or Breitbart shut down? Why isn't Fox News shut down? Why aren't people who openly speak against the Democrats openly targeted by the FBI and arrested? Why have I never seen a satisfactory answer to this?
1. The city in question is a dem machine city. NO republicans have any power. All the officers are staffed by dem hacks.
2. I'm asking YOU the results, and going out oa limb that the data has not been collected.
3. Does that cover the cover up of the rape of the child by the thug that the school knew was a problem?
4. Wait, so until Free Speech is COMPLETELY destroyed and any AND EVERY dissent is met by immediate arrest, then according to you, there is nothign worth discussing?
Interestting pov. Also insane.
Question. Who is supposed to be in charge of the FBI, a Deep State faceless spy? Or the democratically elected President of hte United States?
1. Can I see who bought the case please?
2. I don't know. It's not modelled because it's inconsequential to model. Much of it is just people being abusive on twitter or facebook via slurs with no real clear political motive. Someone was once arrested (although it was dropped) for tweeting rap lyrics on Instagram (contained the n-word), and a woman was arrested for being very rude to a man known here as "Sir Tom" (was an old ex-military man who did some fundraising during COVID).
3. No, it doesn't.
4. I didn't say that - but the way you guys talk as if Conservatives are scared to operate publicly. This clearly is not remotely true.
5. I mean if it was up to me, I'd recommend the USA completely scrap the Presidential system and become a European-style parliamentary system. I don't think one individual should be imbued with so much power. I however doubt you'd be content with Joe Biden directing the FBI currently.
1. Why?
2. LOL. Sure it's not.
3. YEah, that was sort of the point. The dems consider the parents the problem to be watched because they dare to want to speak out.
4. Plenty of people cancelled, ruined, or physically attacked. That some powerful people manage to be heard, doesn't mean it is not dangerous.
5. Answer the question. Unelected spy or elected officail. Who is supposed to be in charge? Do you really not know?
1. You're making claims. I'm asking you to back them up.
2. Okay, so you get to dictate to me how my country is, do you?
3. I've given the context behind the FBI monitoring school board meetings - they were asked to by school boards.
4. Whomst?
5. From what I can see, the FBI does and has always operated semi-independently from the President. The director is appointed but doesn't directly answer to the President.
1. What purpose would be served by me digging up the name of the man that signed off on a form?
2. I predicted that the numbers were not tracked. and you said that the numbers were not signficant. Your country is what it is. It is not my fault.
3. YOu gave the stormtroopers excueses.
4. Are you denyhing that antifa mobs have used terror to shut down speeches? State your objection clearly so that I can address it in such a way that you have to deal with it, instead of just fading away like the fog.
5. So, you like the idea that a rogue spy can set govenrment policy to work against the wishes of his boss? Incredible.
Hey, I bet you think the Deep State is conspiracy theory don't ya? lol!!!
1. You claim it was a democrat hit job. I want some evidence for this.
2. And when they hit the news cycle, it's almost always someone throwing out a racial slur. It's primarily non-political conduct. There is data recorded for "grossly offensive" conduct but the details behind them are not. You can probably request a FOI to get more details.
3. No, I gave the context. It wasn't just a hit attempt as you so described.
4. I'm sure they have. Can you show me some incidents you're referring to please?
5. Not really. Have you always been complaining about this? Like this isn't a new phenomenon in the US. It's also not the case for most intelligence and national security services, probably to prevent them from becoming puppeted by an authoritarian president who ascends office.
Depends what you mean by "deep state".
1. So, I dig up the name and it changes nothing? That is not reasonable of you.
2. Of course. THe ones that get published are the ones that fit the narrative. The ones where the law is abused to silence dissent? That is what is not heard or tracked.
3. You are far too trusting of people that have been caught abusing their power repeatedly.
4. Why? You agree it happenes so what is served by giving me homework? Are you just stalling to avoid admitting I am right?
5. It is a new phenomenon. They completetly violated their oaths of office, andd their professional and ethincal responsibilitiees and probably legal ones too, to LIE to the American people to try yto control the election. That is not what happens in a free country.
1. Still waiting.
2. How the fuck would you pretend to know this? Provide evidence that the UK state uses the "grossly offensive" law to persecute critics please.
You also realise that most sentences for this are light fines and community service, right? People could easily just complain they were targeted.
3. See #5
4. Provide examples please.
5. I have no reason to trust your partisan ranting.
There should not have been a trial. Period. You're a Brit, you have no business commenting on such a subject. You sheep have allowed the gov't to disarm you. You know less than nothing about defensive shootings. It was a clean shoot, there should have been no charges and no trial. It was a politically motivated, mob-driven witch hunt.
shareI'll talk about what the fuck I like.
I've already said that he was rightly found innocent of all the charges.
> You sheep have allowed the gov't to disarm you. You know less than nothing about defensive shootings. It was a clean shoot, there should have been no charges and no trial. It was a politically motivated, mob-driven witch hunt.
Oh, so you can make comments like this about the UK but I'm not allowed to comment on anything in the USA?
We bought in major gun restrictions due to a school shooting. Most of the population supports it.
When you stick your nose in this issue, absolutely.
Wow, you stated a known fact, good for you. The point here is that there should not have been a trial at all. The fact that there was one with ZERO supporting evidence is alarming to Americans. Or should be.
You are free to talk about whatever you want but inserting yourself into an issue like defensive shootings just makes you look like a bigger idiot than you already do.
Lol nope. Who got us into a costly war? Oh yeah it was Bush lol.
shareWe have been far too interventionist since the end of the cold war. Both parties have been part of that, imo.
The time to have had a serious policy discussion on that, would have been during Bill Clinton's terms.
But, we don't do serious policy discussion any more. Because of poeple like you.
Exactly your party isn't exempt from being incompetent you delusional scumbag. Not to mention Regan said rather offensive comments in the past. You going to excuse the things he said?
shareHaving a policy I disagree with, is not the same as having a policy designed to be hostile to American interests.
Bush, at least, was convinced that what he was doing was for the national security interests of America.
Bill Clinton? lol. He just coasted on the win provided to him by better men. No thought to what we should be doing next.
Your opinion. I believe Bush fid not have America's best interest at heart. You only believe he has the best interest because he is republican. Make him democrat and exactly the same and you are singing a different tune.
Bottom line both parties have been trash. You are just to biased to admit it. Plenty of right wingers have failed. Own up to it.
Answer me this:
Which side (left or right) owns and controls 97% of the mainstream media/information?
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
Yes, I know about that site, but you didn't answer the question.
shareYour question was based on a false premise. No side controls 97% of "mainstream media/information".
shareAllow me to answer it for you: The Left
shareNo, they do not.
shareFact check: Do 97 percent of journalist donations go to Democrats?
97 percent of the donations from mainstream [media] folks go to the Democrat Party
Between 2015-16, specifically: https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_97_percent_of_journalist_donations_go_to_Democrats
And that actually wouldn't mean anything in terms of control since the definition of 'journalist' is broad and wouldn't necessarily just include big media journos. In addition, it doesn't change the fact of the media bias map I showed you that clearly illustrates that 97% of mainstream media in UK/US is **not** identified as left.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/09/08/tracking-media-owners-political-donations/5719743001/
https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations
large financial donations by organisations
Yes, it definitely means that 97% MM is controlled by "the left", you obviously didn't read the entire article all the way to the "conclusion"...I'm not surprised since you have a habit of that.
Oh, btw, Soros is the biggest lefty donor: To Republicans = $0
>Yes, it definitely means that 97% MM is controlled by "the left", you obviously didn't read the entire article all the way to the "conclusion"...I'm not surprised since you have a habit of that.
No, it doesn't. And it didn't even say that. How do you contrast this with the the media bias chart?
And here is the direct source of the 96% claim:
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/journalists-shower-hillary-clinton-with-campaign-cash/
"Nearly all of that money — more than 96 percent — has benefited Clinton: About 430 people who work in journalism have, through August, combined to give about $382,000 to the Democratic nominee, the Center for Public Integrity’s analysis indicates.
About 50 identifiable journalists have combined to give about $14,000 to Trump. (Talk radio ideologues, paid TV pundits and the like — think former Trump campaign manager-turned-CNN commentator Corey Lewandowski — are not included in the tally.)"
Contextually it's ultimately small money, but I think you perhaps forget how reviled Trump was during that period almost universally by the journalist class, many of whom were on the right.
>Oh, btw, Soros is the biggest lefty donor: To Republicans = $0
So what? And Uline/Citadel are two large Republican donors.
Hence....97% to leftwing MM.
share97% of those who chose to contribute within a campaign period. And you know you don't have to be left-wing to donate to a Democrat, right? Explain the media bias chart please.
shareAnd I will point out the failures of your people if he wins. Bush was one of the biggest failures in history and he was republican. Failure is quite prominent in your people as well champ.
shareAs usual, liberals have no perspective but their own.
shareI am well aware of the history of Weimar Republic. No reason to think the USA is anything like late-stage Weimar which was seriously democratically flawed from its onset, and had a President that was openly against democracy.
shareWho gives a fuck about Weimar???
The press doesn't criticize the left. It IS the left. That is the problem. No perspective. It's not even worth my time responding to you.
You bought up the comparison to pre-Nazi Germany
>The press doesn't criticize the left. It IS the left. That is the problem. No perspective. It's not even worth my time responding to you.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/28/politics/fact-check-biden-economic-speech-january-2023/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/22/politics/dick-durbin-biden-classified-documents-cnntv/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/24/politics/joe-biden-age-criticism-kfile/index.html
You're a Brit, waste of time even engaging you.
shareJust gave you 3 sources I found in 2 seconds criticising Biden from CNN
shareIt is part of their schemes, plans, and agendas; they eat and destroy their own whenever it best suits their purpose.
Biden is 100% “a puppet on a string” for Obama and others. He barely knows what day it is or is incapable of walking without falling on his senile geriatric ass.
Just how damn gullible are you to believe “they” would not throw one of their own under the bus. They lie, deceive, and omit.......always.
>It is part of their schemes, plans, and agendas; they eat and destroy their own whenever it best suits their purpose.
So when CNN criticises Biden... it's a scheme in itself? What?
I can find you tons of articles where CNN criticises the Democrats, or shows Democrats criticising the Democrats.
>Just how damn gullible are you to believe “they” would not throw one of their own under the bus. They lie, deceive, and omit.......always.
They aren't throwing him under the bus. These are just ordinary articles you would expect to see that criticise a president.
CC is right about you. You are too damn stupid to argue with.
shareSo CC claims the "press doesn't criticise the left". I show him 3 articles where they do. And apparently that means it's a conspiracy somehow?
Do you view anything the Democrats or the media does as not part of some conspiracy?
Oh wow, three. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. The media didn't criticize Obama at all and handles Biden with kid gloves. It's only been in the last couple months that the failures have been too obvious to ignore. Meanwhile Trump was a six year propaganda war, every day, all day long. You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Like I said, it's a waste of time to engage you.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/02/politics/biden-philadelphia-speech-criticism-marines-cnntv/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/12/politics/biden-title-42-political-pressure/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/biden-documents-fbi-search-political-fallout/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/12/politics/joe-biden-documents-gop-house-george-santos/index.html
https://www.newsweek.com/cnn-anchor-calls-out-biden-using-marines-fiery-anti-maga-speech-1739471
How many do you want?
The media clearly does criticise Joe Biden.
You have no perspective. Your posts are meaningless.
shareHow many examples of Democrats being criticised should I give you?
Yes Trump was also heavily criticised and mocked because he often said unbelievably stupid and ignorant things.
"........because he often said unbelievably stupid and ignorant things."
Oh the irony.
If you're saying I say stupid things I'm not a public figure.
shareYou're not a billionaire either.
It's comical the intellectually stunted people who question GW Bush's intelligence when they lack the mental capacity to become a fighter pilot.
Biden can't construct a sentence, yet you imbeciles are still focused on Trump.
And how much of a loser do you have to be, to be a Brit obsessed with American politics and Trump???
>Biden can't construct a sentence, yet you imbeciles are still focused on Trump.
I didn't bring up Trump in this thread. Other users bought him up. And he struggles to formulate sentences.
>And how much of a loser do you have to be, to be a Brit obsessed with American politics and Trump???
Most of the world, to some degree, looks at American politics. America is the most influential country on the planet.
>When their own elected body is behaving more Hitler-esque than Trump ever did?
Examples please.
>Their hypocrisy is particularly gross. They get angry and upset when we speak the truth, calling us "hateful" and "bigoted," "terrorists," that we're "dangerous" and "committing violence" with just words, when they're the ones looting, rioting, setting stuff on fire in cities, threatening people's jobs, hurting children at schools, letting people into the country that have committed every known crime in the book, and think homeless, illegal immigrants, and real terrorists should be treated better than our veterans! Who's the real villain here?
Do you think an individual angry protester for BLM is the exact same person as every individual who votes for Democrat?
>You can bet they would be lined up, cheering and shouting cruel words, saying we "deserved it," if their current regime got away with marching white, straight, Christian Republicans away to death camps and had our kids taken away to be raised by the state. Then they'll be totally clueless as to why we got out the guns and had states like Texas secede from the union for real.
This is absurd sensationalised nonsense. You are seriously paranoid.
I do not, and would never support anyone being marched to death camps.
Paranoid? No. Students of history and obviously far more observant than you, which isn't saying much. You're blind to it because you 'think' it doesn't affect you.
You said you were 'from' the UK. Is that where you live?
>Paranoid? No. Students of history and obviously far more observant than you, which isn't saying much. You're blind to it because you 'think' it doesn't affect you.
So give some examples please.
>You said you were 'from' the UK. Is that where you live?
Yes.
Then you really have no business weighing in on American politics.
shareI'll talk about what I like.
shareFine, but your Britt-pinion will be disregarded by us, just as our Ameri-pinions about the UK should be disregarded by you.
I know for a fact that the (false)left/right dichotomy in Europe works way different than here, and I would not even try to understand it, let alone have a serious opinion on it.
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Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people.
Leftists always lie.
Wokeness is Weakness.
>Fine, but your Britt-pinion will be disregarded by us, just as our Ameri-pinions about the UK should be disregarded by you.
I never said that you should regard my opinion. Just that I have every right to weigh into what I want.
>I know for a fact that the (false)left/right dichotomy in Europe works way different than here, and I would not even try to understand it, let alone have a serious opinion on it.
What do you mean "false"? Are you suggesting our interpretation of left-right is wrong, or that the entire concept is broken?
Apparently; there must be nothing interesting or worth mentioning about the UK for someone from there to spend 99% of their time discussing USA/Western politics.
shareIt's how they ignore the huge issues happening in their own country.
shareNo one's stopping you but you have no dog in this fight, no perspective and no credibility. Your perspective, or lack thereof, makes your opinion worthless.
shareHateful language and right wing disinformation discourage others, especially those from marginalized groups, from feeling free to express themselves.
Doing nothing about it actually promotes right wing authoritarianism. We are only truly free when all members of our society can live their truth without fear.
What hateful language? Who is not free to express themselves?
shareExclusionary terms like biological woman or illegal immigrant. Disproven claims like trans women have an advantage in competitive sports or undocumented immigrants harm the economy blaming African Americans for problems that have been shown to be the result of institutional racism.
This kind of rhetoric makes these people feel unsafe and sends the message that they don't matter.
Rhetoric like this is absolute lunacy. The problem with you people is that you are so self righteous in your ridiculous beliefs but you cannot deal with anyone who disagrees with you. You have to attempt to shut down the discourse by either calling it hate speech or throwing labels of racist, bigot, etc.. Polite debate is impossible.
Exclusionary terms??? Who is being excluded??? If it weren't for the insane idea that men can become women or that illegal aliens are somehow acceptable, those terms wouldn't even be used. Even though they are entirely benign. Unfortunately, we have to make the distinction between "biological women", i.e., real women and charlatans with dicks. Illegal immigrants are exactly that, people who BROKE THE LAW by coming into our country illegally. Somehow you gullible fools have been duped into believing that "strength is diversity", even though all evidence is to the contrary. People who are here illegally and pay no taxes are an absolute burden on the taxpayer. It costs the American people $116billion every year. That is absolutely insane and more insane that idiots like you want it to happen.
It's time that black Americans (African-American is a bullshit term) take responsibility for themselves. There is no "institutional racism". They have MORE opportunities than whites. It is YOUR ideology that perpetuates their victimhood and hopelessness.
The issue here is not that those people don't matter. The problem is that your political ideology has to make them feel like they matter more than the rest of us. They don't. This house of cards is built for them by politicians that want their vote, plain and simple. Simps like you perpetuate it.
No reasonable person believes authoritarianism is exclusive to one side, or one ideology. Anyone that makes such a claim is just being ridiculous.
share100% agreed.
Also, it's funny that on a four quadrant political spectrum, authoritarianism and libertarianism represent two different extremes, along with left-wing and right-wing, and yet many of my fellow leftists refuse to acknowledge that left-wingers can be authoritarian or libertarian.
Now, I know in this instance I'm using authoritarianism as a political ideology, as opposed to the way it's referred to in the study (i.e. as a characteristic), but it's still fascinating.
And, yes, jackasses and bullies exist across all sides of the political spectrum.
That is because you and other gullible brainwashed zombies like the one you replied to fell for the fabricated spectrum(s) created by the lefties. The farthest right of the spectrum will always be 0-percent power/force/gov-author/auth while the farthest left is 100%. They purposely confused and brainwashed the gullible like you.
There is no such thing as a left libertarian, they fabricated that as well. There is however; liberalism on the left which should not be confused with it. In the past decade and half, they have invented and fabricated words, combined some of them from both sides, and swapped some of them around, while making some of them equivalent on both sides.
Exactly my point; no reasonable person believes authoritarianism is exclusive to one side, or one ideology.
share