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Gas kitchen appliances, stoves and ovens


I decided to take a look at my Carbon Monoxide detectors manual.

It's interesting that I had forgotten the instruction book says

"It is recommended not to install the detector in th garage, kitchen, or furnace room. Mounting in these places may cause annoying alarms and may be exposed to to substances that can damage or contaminate the sensing head.

It's normal to have a transient high concentration of of carbon monoxide in the kitchen, in the oven and some burners,"


This is the kind of thing they used to say about lead in gas or second hand cigarette smoke, and as if right on cue the probably already brain damaged pipe up and tell us how much they like lead and nicotine and carbon monoxide, and it is only sissies who can't take a little contamination.

In simple terms, the thing with CO is that it has a higher bonding potential with hemoglobin in our blood, such that when CO is breathed in the red blood cells that absorb it become useless.

Here is how one site puts it:
Carbon monoxide inhibits the blood's ability to carry oxygen to body tissues including vital organs such as the heart and brain. When CO is inhaled, it combines with the oxygen carrying hemoglobin of the blood to form carboxyhemoglobin (COHb). Heavy smokers can have as much as 9% COHb. 15% COHb - Mild headache.

Some think that unless people are dropping dead nothing should be done about a problem. Republicans don't seeom to even care if people are dropping dead, until it is their friends or family or themselves that are affected. That's why when it comes to policy the rest of us should just ignore anything any Republican says. Republicans lie and say everyone is over-reacting and we are in danger of losing our freedoms. Yawn ... the same BS for many decades now to protect those who profit off other people's misery. At the core, Republicans are their master's ass kissers.

Clearly gas stoves or other gas appliances are not going to be banned or outlawed overnight, but this finding of the real danger of CO is a good time to start planning to phase out gas appliances and infrastructure inside the homes. It will save money, lives, health, in the long term.

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This is just the latest right wing outrage over something that isn't happening. Like "liberals banned my Big Gulp!"

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Integrating new information is incredibly painful for Right-wingers, because they have to either make up new lies to replace all their previous lies or wander around like the Walking Dead waiting for someone to herd them with a new BS narrative.

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Being completely dependent on electricity is enslavement.

You don't want this.

If the current grid can barely hold up...how do any of you expect it to hold together adding an insane amount of appliances and EVs to it?

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They will promote power plants that burn car tires to supply electricity for the electric vehicles.

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These are the same people that support policies that give crack pipes to crackheads, its never been about "saving lives", and it never will be.

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Flapping your gums with no data.
It is nice that people have gas in emergencies for cooking or heating, but that is insignificant, and by the time all gas is done with there will be alternatives and redundancies. Dual-fuel emergency generators, batteries, solar.
You blabbering whiners are always whinging about enslavement and loss of freedom with no evidence, just scare tactics.
You must live in Texas to say the grid can barely hold up. Gas doesn't seem to have made much of a difference.

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If the current grid can barely hold up...how do you expect it to hold together adding an insane amount of appliances and EVs to it?

Your post suggests no solid solutions to this problem.

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It's happening. That is a simple problem, easy to solve, no new technology, just investment, if your billionaire puppet masters would ever allow you to understand.

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"Being completely dependent on electricity is enslavement."

Electricity is not a source of energy , its a transmission method.
Fossil fuels are:
A) killing us and the planet
B) More Importantly - running out.

we need other sources of energy , and they will be distributed via electricity.

How will the grid cope with this ?
It will be a real struggle. people may even have to give up cars - transporting 3 tons of steel to move one person is not practical when all the free oil energy is burned.


so i agree , use a mix for now , but there is no way we will be prepared by the time the free oil runs out .


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Fossil fuels are:
A) killing us and the planet
B) More Importantly - running out.


LMAO, omg...

A) The planet isn't going anywhere, it will shake humans off of it like a bad disease...which we are. Okay, stop fossil fuels... and when the grid inevitably shits the bed, millions upon million will die OVERNIGHT. But I'm sure them dying in that way is just A-Okay, right?

It's bad if they die of insignificant stove gases, but good if they die because their refrigerated meds expired? Make that make sense please.

B) How do you know they are? Because some dipshit on TV said it?

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a) as I said , gradually , but as fast as possible .
b) i've read books about it by geologists specialising in the subject


"imaginary stove gases" is a new one on me , in the UK they threaten to get rid of gas boilers "cos climate"

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Yes it was a bad word choice....I'll swap that to insignificant.

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Go shake yourself off, I'm not ready for me and my family to be shaken off like a bad disease - Republicans are the bad disease.

All problems that can be solved, but constant lies and continual distraction is not very helpful. Maybe you the fact that this is not an insignicant stove gas any more than second hand smoke was insignificant.

I've never once heard you criticize anyone on the right for anything.
And never once heard you agree with anyone on the Left about anything.
That proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you are a mindless ideaologue all-day troll.
Meaning, anything you say is suspicious, and can pretty much be safely ignored.

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When your heart is filled with hate, you don't care if you harm yourself and usually vote against your own well being. Such is life for some but it's amusing watching them suffer from their own poor life choices. Of course the elites will still be well fed and contempt when they shower you with highly paid middle to high class anchors to pour fake news so you fight amongst each other over petty squabbles. I can see why Tucker Carlson laughs so much. He isn't laughing at the news he reports but at the audiences stupidity to keep doing the work for him.

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How is not giving the government full control over my energy usage voting against my own well-being?

I can't wait to hear this response...

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Full control, eh? Oh no! Lost of freedom, slavery ... in the richest country in the world? Whine, whine, whine.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/06/19/texas-power-companies-raising-smart-thermostat-temps-why/7754658002/

Remember this post someday, when they cut off your heat...

Don't you understand that anything close to any sort of freedom and rights that humans have now, is only something realized in the last hundred years or so, yes? Poor people today live better than KINGS in the 1300s....

Do you want to go back to that system where only kings get to take a shower? Because thats what all this is going to lead to.

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> Poor people today live better than KINGS in the 1300s.

Not really the standard to apply. A comfortable slave is still a slave ... you should know.
You are so bitter because I don't think you can admit it to yourself.
And even if not, anyone who can oblige a whole country of slaves and ridicule and demean them is a sick person.

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It's comical how quickly liberals swallow whatever bullshit they're fed, as long as it comes from the right place. They never met an impending environmental disaster they didn't go whole hog on.

The problem, my dear liberal retard friends, is that when you make a living out of lies, sane people stop believing you.

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Hahahaha . that's hilarious.

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They never seem to want to click on this link....

https://extinctionclock.org/

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The leading contributors to preventable death in the US are smoking and obesity. I have a hard time accepting the sincerity or effectiveness of any desire to ban gas for health reasons while these factors are ignored.

What’s being proposed is a world without gas stoves, where someone can still smoke a pack of cigarettes a day or eat in such an unhealthy way as to cause obesity. Vaping is addictive, delivers dangerous levels of CO and has been heavily marketed to the youth. US food systems are terrible for the health of its people and the environment as well. There are so many changes the country could make that would have a much greater impact on our collective health. I don’t smoke, I rarely drink alcohol, I exercise regularly, and eat healthy. I prefer to cook with gas. Why is my unhealthy habit a problem while these enormous contributors are ignored?

Moviechatterer makes a valid point about the need to move away from fossil fuels. I agree that energy should eventually be distributed via electricity, but this talk about eliminating gas is premature. Massive investment in other sources of energy and the strengthening of our electrical grid should precede any ban on gas. A much better option in my opinion is to offer incentives to switch from gas through rebates or tax credits; it’s the same approach the country is taking with electric cars. I’m happy to pay more to use a gas stove, and if I’m alive by the time it’s practical to completely eliminate gas I can accept that too.

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Massive electricity can only work in a decentralized way....but I bet no one will be on board with that. I wonder why...

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I grew up with an electric stove, not for any environmental reasons. When I got into cooking and started using gas stoves, it was like night and day. Gas gives you more control. I would miss gas but would take the hit for the environment.

Magnetic induction plates are the only alternative I've used that can grill a steak just as well as a gas stove. Maybe that's the compromise, electric stoves come with induction plates.



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I always had electric resistance stove burners until my current place. I think it is OK, but I notice after I cook my nose feels stuffed up or something. I like the gas burners, but I'd be happy to give it up.

Induction cooktops. People who have used them are always surprised at how fast water boils. Much faster than gas stoves.

It's not like it's going to save the world from global warming ... this should terrify any thinking person -

Lockdown methane INCREASE!! What's going on?? Youtube - Just Have A Think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huuDav8BDIA

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