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Transgenderism: What is the "right to EXIST"?

posted 3 years ago by arcticdragon (583)
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Out of all the people here who have interacted with trans people/advocates, whether for them or against them, have any of you encountered the term "the right to EXIST"?

In another (much more left-leaning) discussion board, I have encountered this phrase several times. It's typically used both as a means to justify their demands and arguments, as well as a defense against criticism and anything that might test them for hypocrisy.

This is most often used by people who do consider gender as a social construct and some sort of ideology, not a clinical or scientific thing. The meaning of the term is still elusive and varied, and I don't want to ask about it in that other place due to the heavy moderation and toxicity.

Does anybody else have a take on this?

[–] Kowalski (78704) 3 years ago

29 POSTS AND THEY ARE ALL ABOUT TRANS STUFF...MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST STAY ON THAT OTHER SITE.🙄

[–] arcticdragon (583) 3 years ago

You mad, bro?

[–] Kowalski (78704) 3 years ago

NO...JUST DISAPPOINTED.

[–] samoanjoes (58491) 3 years ago

90% of your posts are about dicks.

[–] Kowalski (78704) 3 years ago

YEAH...I HAVE ONE...SO...LIKE...I AM KIND OF AN EXPERT.

[–] Rorikon (18336) 3 years ago

ROFL! Well, it's Kowalski and he's an expert penguin analysis.

[–] Information-Police (4896) 3 years ago

It means what it states - they have a right to exist. Nobody else has a right to make them go away.

[–] arcticdragon (583) 3 years ago

Define "exist" for me. Or to be more precise, what would taking away that right even look like?

What's your take on B1cKsurN's explanation (the one directly below)?

[–] AmeriGirl26 (15062) 3 years ago

They're just using it as an excuse to be in your face and to be seen on tv, and to destroy your kids later in school. It isn't about human rights, it's about power.

[–] Information-Police (4896) 3 years ago

Do you exist? Do you have people saying you shouldn't exist?

[–] legnadibrom (6485) 3 years ago

my father once told me he wished i'd never been born

[–] arcticdragon (583) 3 years ago

Me? Yes. And also yes. But what's your point?

So you gonna answer my questions, or should we just conclude it's not something important to begin with?

[–] Information-Police (4896) 3 years ago

If you say you exist, then you must know what it means so why are you asking what it means.

In this context, it means to live without being tormented, persecuted and harassed by the law.

But you knew that, didn't you.

[–] arcticdragon (583) 3 years ago

If you say you exist, then you must know what it means so why are you asking what it means.

If "exist" means the same to them as it does to me, then it makes even less sense why they're complaining about losing their "right to exist". They are not at risk of "not existing anymore".

In this context, it means to live without being tormented, persecuted and harassed by the law.

If this is what it means, then why call it "existing"? That's not what existing means to me, nor what it means literally or even generally.

In any case, you're wrong.

[–] Information-Police (4896) 3 years ago

You asked what it means, don't complain when somebody gives you the answer.

[–] Information-Police (4896) 3 years ago

B1cKsurN sounds like he didn't think trans people are worthy of existence since he refers to them being in a fantasy world.

[–] arcticdragon (583) 3 years ago

"Fantasy world" means they are living in denial of reality, but otherwise clearly still "exist".

But you knew that, didn't you.

[–] B1cKsurN (17788) 3 years ago

They basically mean if you don't play into their fantasy world, then you don't want them to exist. It's just Rules for Radicals bullshit. The fact is that normies in general just don't give a shit about these people, until they start infringing on rights and targeting the children.

[–] CraigC (8720) 3 years ago

Nailed it!

[–] arcticdragon (583) 3 years ago

A fair response. But what does it mean to "exist"? And why would they think "existing" requires the rest of us playing their "fantasy world"?

[–] B1cKsurN (17788) 3 years ago

Because their entire personality and existence rests on their transgender status, that's it...nothing else. If you don't acknowledge the fantasy, you aren't acknowledging, in their minds, "them" as people.

[–] Evoken (1421) 3 years ago

Yes, this is exactly it.

[–] JoWilli (21521) 3 years ago

^^^
this

[–] Rorikon (18336) 3 years ago

To me, they only exist if they go all the way, not give up halfway or just put on a dress and consider themselves trans while still donning the other parts of the previous sex. It you can trick my mind, I can't complain about the trap.

[–] arcticdragon (583) 3 years ago

Isn't this just ignorance? The belief that something is true, as long as you don't discover that it is actually false?

Do you really believe that their existence hinges on tricking and trapping your mind?

[–] AmeriGirl26 (15062) 3 years ago

There's a reason we used to have people like that either locked up in asylums or kept on the fringes of society before the 1960s. But then, people started letting the inmates out....

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Guess you like your girlfriend having something dangling between their legs? Who leads.....LOL?