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For anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers


Serious question what is your guys solution to this pandemic? Do not wear a mask or get vaccinated and just live like nothing happened? I ask because you constantly complain about these things but offer no solution to the problem.

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I think their plan is just to let the virus run rampant and kill off the elderly and infirm, so they diont have to pay as much tax to scroungers.
Kinda like Hitler

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You posted this 13 hours ago but this idiotic myth died over 13 months ago. The virus is now killing kids, and most of those hospitalized are in the states with the least vaccinated.

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...he said, without evidence.

Can we get the hard data you used to come up with this conclusion?

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What idiotic myth?
you post doesent seem to bear any connection to mine , or the OPs

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The virus has always killed kids, but the overwhelming majority of people who die from COVID-19 are the elderly and the infirm.

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Make Germany Great Again - Adolf Hitler, 1938

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My solution is not to allow thousands of illegal immigrants come into the country and then transporting them on the tax payer dollar to states that didn’t vote for Biden, unlike what the DemoKKKrats are doing.

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How racist and how ignorant of you.

Immigrants are immune to C19.

The more you know.

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You’re right, you have shown me the way, once you become an illegal immigrant the virus magically disappears. The virus only targets law abiding citizens

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Yup. Just like gun control laws.

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So you don't have a serious proposal, but, hey, way to focus on the .00001% of the population.

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Your outrage over Covid is meaningless as long as you are allowing thousands of Covid infected illegal immigrants into the country daily while in the meantime law abiding citizens must be vaccinated, masked regardless and have vaccine passports. You don’t give a damn about anyone’s life, you only care about politics you demented scumbag

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You're making a lot of unwarranted assumptions about me, but it looks like that's your thing.

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ADDRESS THE POINT...


ILLEGALS STREAMING INTO THE COUNTRY CARRYING COVID AND WORSE.

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The "point," such as it is, has been addressed and refuted. He's after a trivially small fraction of the population. It's not a serious proposal. It's a policy he was committed to prior to COVID and now it's being repurposed.

The statistical ignorance -- and general nincompoopery -- on this board is rather astounding.

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I LIVE NEAR THE BORDER...YOU SIR,ARE FULL OF SHIT.

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This reminds me of an old SNL sketch mocking Bill O'Reilly. "The liberal media says more people live in California than New York. Not true. I've been to California. Hardly anybody out there. In New York the sidewalks are packed." You even "shout" like an idiot. I mean pinhead.

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/31/politics/migrants-us-southern-border/index.html

2 million. Yeah you sure are a nincompoop

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Did you even read the article? Hell, did you even read the headline?

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Yet you didn’t deny them which confirms what you claim to be “assumptions”

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I'm not a fan of Biden's immigration policies, you troglodyte. The busing -- stopping it -- is an extremely small component of COVID policy. You're just on your hobby horse.

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I am still justified in my “assumptions”

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That's not an argument. It's a restatement without support, so, no, not justified. Do you know what any of these words mean?

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Everything about you suggests that my "assumptions" are accurate. If they aren't then prove me wrong dingleberry.

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I did. I'm something of an authority regarding what I personally believe when it comes to immigration. You might even say I'm the author of my views.

I've already discussed above, in more than one sub-thread where you're mistaken, but you apparently suffer from head-in-ass syndrome.

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Naw I know more about your views that you do. You aren't smart enough to have your own views, I think your TDS is a reason for this

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Yeah, I read your unlettered posts and I'm immediately wowed by your intelligence.

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You should be

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I am. It's rare to encounter this kind of stupidity.

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You do every day when you look in the mirror.

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You do realize I'm with myself even when I'm not looking in the mirror. You basically have the world-view of an infant.

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Well then you should be used to the kind of stupidity you claim I exhibit

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Just about the same chance one under age 50 has of dying from covid. A literal rounding error at this point.

How do we end it? Abolish the communist democrat party media and their endless fear mongering. Turn off the fake news. You’ll find when you take a break and look around nothing has changed at all from any other year.

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The virus has claimed over 600,000 American lives (a likely underestimate). But, yeah, no different than any other year. Someone certainly needs to turn off the fake news.

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And we have no one but Fauci to blame for that. And the DemoKKKrats for not holding the son of a bitch accountable.

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Uh huh, the buck stops with Fauci. If Fauci's to blame, why didn't Trump fire him?

Please get back to me when you're on speaking terms with reality.

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So then Fauci isn't responsible for his own actions? Also we didn't get a look at his emails and we didn't find out that he lied about the Wu-Han Lab until after Trump was out of office, if we are going to go by your standard that Fauci can't control his actions then the buck stops with Biden.

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More with the sand pounding stupidity. Do you not understand how a conditional statement works? "If Fauci is to blame," as you say, why didn't Trump intervene?

As it stands, I do not blame Fauci for the 600,000 dead. He certainly made some wrong decisions. A terrible one was criticizing Trump after Biden assumed office. He's supposed to be a doctor/politician. We know how stubbornly stupid and sensitive red-hatters are when it comes to Cheeto Von Tweeto. Fauci should have focused on doing everything possible to motivate them to get vaccinated.

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First of all I agree that Trump should have done more research on Fauci and should have had some indication as to what an evil, partisan scumbag he is, but that pales in comparison to what Fauci has done. Fauci is absolutely responsible for 600,000 dead as are the DemoKKKrats who accused Trump of using the virus as a deflection from their first fake impeachment, not to mention Cuomo and other DemoKKKrat governors who sent Covid patients to nursing homes or Biden and his scumbag of a VP who are both aiding and abetting illegal immigrants, many of whom have Covid and then using tax payer dollars to transport and dump them in red states. I do not blame President Trump for the 600,000 dead, he did everything he could and due to Operation Warp Speed we have the vaccines that we have today (also it's ironic that the DemoKKKrats trashed the vaccines while Trump was President but now all of a sudden you have to get it or you're a murderer, yeah more partisan political games with peoples lives). Everyone who has died has died as a direct result of the actions of the DemoKKKrats.

EDIT: But then again what can I expect from someone who can’t follow the plot of Top Gun.

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You're basically a fool who reduces the world to R's and D's. You're blinded by tribalism. Ironically you've lost the plot.

My handle is a humorous reference to Top Gun. Most people get that.

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I see you’ve pretty much given up on debating the facts, I accept your concession

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You must come from the Ben Shapiro school of debate what with all of the Gish Galloping rationalizations. Like a pigeon playing chess -- just crap all over the board and then strut around like you won. Like a four-hundred pound body-confident wannabe influencer parading around in a bikini and calling herself hot. It's embarrassing.

You can offer up dozens of unrelated facts, but the single fact remains that if you wholly blame Fauci -- which is silly -- you need to account for his boss, and maybe that's something you're constitutionally unable to do.

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You see that’s typical libtard logic: it’s always someone else’s fault and blame is usually deflected to a politician you don’t agree with. You are a libtard cultist , you aren’t smart enough to think for yourself so instead your cult tells you what to think. I’ve seen how you people work, you just connect the dots in whatever idiotic direction you have to so that’s it’s anyone else’s fault but your cult leaders. I hate your cult and what they did to you, I’d love to be able to help you get out but it’s going to have to start with you admitting that you’re wrong and I get the feeling you aren’t ready for that

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This is another weak inference not supported by anything I've said. It also seems to better describe your approach than mine, what with blaming Trump's employee and constantly invoking "DemoKKKrats." I've never voted for Democrat for president in my life, and I probably never will. Biden and the Dems are merely a lesser evil. The cultism in contemporary politics is far more firmly entrenched on the right.

Instead of claiming you know someone better than they do -- which you don't -- which you can't -- try to stick to the arguments at hand. Otherwise, it's just one face-plant after another with you.

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You clearly don’t have a firm grasp on reality. First of all you were the one who first abandoned trying to have anything resembling an intelligent discussion, go back and read the posts I even called you out for it. Secondly the Democrats are acting more like the KKK every day or better yet the Nazis so me using the phrase DemoKKKrat is just me being accurate. If you seriously think Biden is the lesser of two evils then you have clearly been indoctrinated, Trump handed Biden a strong border, a secure Middle East, a recovering economy, energy independence and 3 vaccines, and Biden managed to screw all of them up in 6 short months. There is very little cultism on the right, I’m not obsessed with Donald Trump, he was a good President however if someone else came along who had the same values as he did I would vote for him. The left however is radical and they have in themselves become a cult, they are obsessed with hating President Trump no matter what, they trashed the vaccines while he was President then once he left office all of a sudden anyone who didn’t want to take vaccine was a murderer, hell CNN took the Covid death counter down the day he left office. You people are scary, you people are dangerous and you people need serious help. You worship your cult and I feel really sorry for you.

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An old law professor once advised students, "Pay special attention whenever someone says 'clearly' or 'obviously.' What often follows is neither clear nor obvious."

You're the one who believes US president "handed" (not exactly the right word given Trump's attempt to steal the election) his successor a strong border, a "secure" Middle East, and "energy independence" (among other things). The people who wrote Trump's press releases possess greater self-awareness. I would never speak so highly of Joe fuckin' Biden. The only "praise" that immediately comes to mind is that he's not Donald Trump. You do not understand lagging deaths or how the economy works. It's charming you "feel really sorry" for me, but the people so interested in saving others usually need to save themselves.

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Trump did not try to steal the election , all he wanted was to make sure that the election was fair which it clearly wasn’t. The Demokkkrats stole the election and yes there was voter fraud, do your homework, kid. I do feel sorry for you, you don’t live in reality, you live in this sheltered libtard bubble where no one can hurt your fragile little feelings and it’s always someone else’s fault. Your cult has brainwashed you, and I can’t help you unless you’re willing to help yourself

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The solution is taking care of itself. Most of the people getting the disease are people like you. Let Darwin win this fight. Let the Republikkkans die off.

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Right after we allow BLM to burn down cities run by DemoKKKrat and let you people die off. The cops should stop risking their lives to keep you people safe, it’s not worth it, they should just listen to Nancy Pelosi and let BLM “do what they do”

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You are a white supremacist racist nazi January 6th supporter! It's already been proven that it is impossible for people of color to locate a Kinkos, have picture identification, and CAN NOT contract or spread any covid related viruses. That is why BLM and Antifa riots are safe and the rally at Sturgis is a super spreader.

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It's also impossible for illegal immigrants to spread COVID. COVID only targets law abiding citizens, Fauci said so and if you question him you are questioning science.

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I'm curious why you don't frame your question honestly without the condescension?

Personally, I know the virus is real. REAL.
It's no where near as bad as they claim.
Their own numbers are where I get this info.

Masks: For the first six months every mask that I saw was a cheap ass dust mask.
Now there are plenty of those but at least there are good masks out there too, mostly in the medical field.
One thought on masks, if you think that cheap ass dust masks can benefit you positively in anyway shape or form, you are a true FKN idiot.

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That's because Trump was having FEMA hoard them and pretend to be giving them out to hospitals and health care workers. I literally called 3M myself and they said this. I literally KNOW hospital workers from one of the top University Hospitals in the country who said they weren't getting the equipment. My personal doctor's office had equipment before hand and had been donating it to area hospitals. Trump wanted this disease to run rampant in this country. February of this year rolls around and I suddenly see n95 masks at Menards. Coincidence?! I don't think so!

I was able to obtain FFP2 masks (Europea standard N95 masks) and KN95 masks off of Amazon but it is hard to breath through the FFP2s and the KN95s are acceptable.

"if you think that cheap ass dust masks can benefit you positively in anyway shape or form, you are a true FKN idiot."
No you're a true fucking idiot. The disease is smaller than the gaps between the fibers of the mask YES, but the masks prevent the aerosol and moisture droplets from being spread during loud talking, coughing or sneazing. The Japanese did a study on it and proved it. https://youtu.be/H2azcn7MqOU?t=45

Idiots like you ought to have the shit smacked out of you.

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Do you blame your ED on Trump too?

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another profound statement from the idiot who can never actually address arguments that disprove your narrative.

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I'm curious why you don't frame your question honestly without the condescension?


Because they don't post for honest discussion, they just want to be dicks to posters that disagree with them. Keep this in mind.

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"It's no where near as bad as they claim."

800k dead Americans disagree. this is EVEN WITH mandates to reduce the spread. SO how bad would it have been if no measures were taken? 2 million? 3 million dead Americans?

"Their own numbers are where I get this info."

then you dont understand fuck all

"Masks: For the first six months every mask that I saw was a cheap ass dust mask.
Now there are plenty of those but at least there are good masks out there too, mostly in the medical field.
One thought on masks, if you think that cheap ass dust masks can benefit you positively in anyway shape or form, you are a true FKN idiot."

Big surprise! yet again you dont know what the fuck you are talking about!

there are two ways covid can spread
-aerosols
-droplets

your average mask won't stop aerosols as these are extremely small virus's.

but it can stop droplets. which I am sure anyone has notice just by talking sometimes you "spit". often its smaller than these noticeable instances but as you laugh, talk or yell you expel water droplets.

the masks undoubtably stop these and hence transmission

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Let them eat death! Most of them are conservatives anyway who allowed the pandemic to run amok in this country. If they want to live but not take vaccines they best wear masks. But I say let Darwin take them.

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Texans are following what is called "The Great Barrington Declaration," where in regards to this "pandemic," their plan is as follows:

- if you are healthy, go about your daily life; go to work, go to school, no need to stay locked in your home [unless you're a shut-in]
- if you have Coronavirus, it's okay to quarantine yourself at home for two weeks
- if you have the same disease and feel your life is in danger from it, go to the hospital for treatment

Texas discovered that in just three weeks after opening up, the Beer Bug cases actually went down in number! Oh my God! It's not as lethal as they think?! You mean we had nothing to fear from this thing?! You mean the lockdowns and masks were unnecessary?! Heathens!

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maybe cause cases were already down,... and like all flus this hits in waves....

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Let the virus run it's course. It's mutating into the common cold, best to just speed up that process. Protect the highest risk group, and open the world back up.

Of course, if the scamdemic is just a genesis to global tyranny, then we know why our leaders are fucking it all up on purpose...

Oh, and we're Pro-Choice, fuck your labels.

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I don't know why i'm answering this question, i already know i'll get a load of nonsense back, but let's see.

I do actually wear masks, i don't see a problem with it, it's not a huge inconvenience, but heres the thing, the world has had varying degrees of lockdowns since march 2020, masks have been mandatory, 2 meters safe space in public areas, we've closed down major parts of our economy, we've had people working from home, and since january we've had these "vaccines", nearly 5 billion doses of these vaccines have been given out worldwide.

so we've implemented measures in order to combat a problem, a pandemic, but nothing has improved. the global mortality rate is still roughly 2%, many countries are recording record highs of new cases.

if you implement something to combat a problem, and the situation doesn't improve, it gets in some cases worse, at what point would you have to question this strategy? you have "einstein" in your username, didnt he say that the defintion of insanity is try the same thing a 1000 times and expect different results?

i'm fúcking sick of people copying and pasting dumb links from google that mean nothing. i'm sick of people ignoring the reality. do i have a solution? no! but at least i'm smart enough to know that we know nothing!

theres two types of people, those like me that accept that we have no idea, and those that continue pushing the same solutions, and when it doesn't work scream "misinformation! misinformation! lalalalalala it works lalalalalala it works" why ignoring the fact that nothing is getting better, it's getting WORSE!

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"if you implement something to combat a problem, and the situation doesn't improve, it gets in some cases worse, at what point would you have to question this strategy? you have "einstein" in your username, didnt he say that the defintion of insanity is try the same thing a 1000 times and expect different results?
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what the fuck are you talking about? it did work. only X amount of people died vs Y. by lessening the spread lives were saved. this is an objective fact. look at the death rate of Canada vs the USA. where canada had constant strong mandates when there was large spikes, while many US states just let it run its course.

there were 3X the amount of deaths (adjusting for population) in the USA vs canada. meaning about 500k Americans needlessly died because largely republicans couldn't stand having science backed rules and occasional lockdowns for 2 years until the virus got to where it is now, more contagious but less deadly.

"theres two types of people, those like me that accept that we have no idea, and those that continue pushing the same solutions, and when it doesn't work scream "misinformation! misinformation! lalalalalala it works lalalalalala it works" why ignoring the fact that nothing is getting better, it's getting WORSE!"

things are getting better. the virus is less deadly. what are you talking about?

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I honestly believe our government won't let this end. Masks don't work they are tool of obedience and submission. Also forcing kids to wear them is child abuse and it's going to have lasting effects on kids for years and decades to come. I think it's ultimately going to come down to it has to work it's way through the population of enough people having it along with enough people getting vaccines. The government has gained so much power they are going to do everything to keep it.

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