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COVID Origin "Conspiracy" about Wuhan Lab Perhaps Not a Conspiracy After All?

posted 4 years ago by warrior-poet (1357)
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Ex-New York Times science writer Nicholas Wade certainly thinks so. Hmmm. I think we need to wait before jumping on the bandwagon, but this is some very interesting information that's been hinted at previously, but lost amidst the conspiracy nuttiness (which may not have been so nutty after all). If you lean right don't pile onto this just yet, but follow it closely. There may be something to it. If you lean left, don't dismiss this as a possibility. Consider all data and leave it open as possible. But it's starting to look pretty solid that this was a lab-leak, and perhaps even was an effort to intentionally design a human-to-human COVID variant partially funded with U.S. tax dollars that was accidentally leaked. A big question is why isn't mainstream media and large cable news outlets all over this?

https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038
https://mtracey.substack.com/p/as-new-evidence-emerges-for-covid
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[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Shocked I tell you. Trump was right again. Know who else was right? Based water filter and humble pill merchant Alex Jones

https://youtu.be/IcOcaTvl8Lw

[–] warrior-poet (1357) 3 years ago

Interesting commentary on this subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h42xmOnJdKQ
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[–] warrior-poet (1357) 3 years ago

Whoooops!

https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-emails-5-biggest-revelations-1596714
https://in.finance.yahoo.com/news/dr-faucis-leaked-2020-emails-185419453.html
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/science/bombshell-emails-over-what-anthony-fauci-knew/news-story/39c108c393a660b85dce452e4eb4a6b3

But we need to keep in mind that Fauci is a human being, as fraught with frailty as all of us. The real problem wasn't Fauci, although he was the source of some of it with his shifty, wishy-washy handling of the pandemic (much of which was unfairly and ridiculously blamed on Trump). The real problem was the cult-like belief in masks, or the cult-like disbelief in the vaccines, and the force-fed narrative that the origins were natural. Plus just as crucially, all the effort to conceal, suppress and obfuscate the truth using some very Orwellian and sinister tactics by big tech and big media, even shamelessly pulling out the race card a time or two. And many of you fell right in line, either buying it wholeheartedly or denying it fervently, instead of considering all possible factors with skeptical reason.

Again, belief destroys logic, and the past decade and a half (especially the past five years) stands as an exemplary example of this as it evolved and snowballed into utter lunacy, in part spurred on by Trump's demeanor and rhetoric by emboldening existing counterproductive beliefs at both ends of the spectrum in opposing ways. Although to be clear, that's not ultimately Trump's fault. It's the fault of belief-prone non-thinkers who give power over themselves to others, diving into groupthink and confirmation bias head first without question, and giving others command over how they felt, be it the notion that Trump was the devil or the second coming.

In other words, it's your fault, you tribalistic morons. Wise up!
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[–] ODB82 (2055) 3 years ago

I don’t know how anyone couldn’t at least recognize that it was a possibility.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (14382) 3 years ago

Interesting that those of us who didn't watch the lamestream news and believe everything they told us, knew as far back as April of 2020 that the virus was man-made and was released deliberately from at least one or two virus labs in Wuhan. Are you telling me the dumbo-crats are only now acknowledging that?!

That female Chinese scientist who went on the news said that Covid didn't originally hurt humans. It was deliberately genetically modified to harm humans and was deliberately released in a way that it would spread across the planet. She even claimed that she used to work in those labs and knew exactly what they did to do this, and it was on orders from the Chinese govt.

If you think about the time it was released, and what happened around that time, it makes a lot of sense.

November of 2019 was when the Hong Kong riots were going on, because mainland China had reneged on their deal to not implement their rule of law until a few years into the future. The arrogant assholes running the govt. decided to crack down a few years early. That same time period was also when President Trump's impeachment trial ended and came to nothing. Any Chinese doctor who tried to report this new virus and how dangerous it was, was imprisoned and silenced by govt. officials. We also know that this coronavirus could originally be found in the Horseshoe Bat, and yet there were no bats being sold in the wet market near one of the labs, nor were any indigenous to the area; but both labs had a number of live bat specimens in them, which the scientists were using to collect saliva samples.

Looking this all over, it sounds as if the Democraps (who are in bed with China) probably asked China to help them defeat Trump using the virus, and had it released when they ran out of options to get him out of office before the 2020 election. They didn't care who got hurt, and when the virus turned out not to be as deadly as they hoped, they had their news monkeys hype up a new plague to scare people.

It was just plain disgusting how low these assholes would go to preserve their twisted status quo.

[–] snepts (11123) 3 years ago

As usual, you demonstrate bias and mindless hate, and use too many words to do it.

[–] warrior-poet (1357) 3 years ago

I was with you until the second to last paragraph, where I think you went off the rails.

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/609aee617cec9e0179f70fe2/COVID-Origin-Conspiracy-about-Wuhan-Lab-Perhaps-Not-a-Conspiracy-After-All?reply=60b80127f96b0b380a3f77af

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/60b1ddebd57b963b6f166f65/Tucker-The-left-uses-partisan-politics-posing-as-science?reply=60b5b9fe3ecb602a553afe81
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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14382) 3 years ago

Think about this: the Chinese govt. could have released that virus any time they wanted. Heck, they could have released a worse one if they wanted to. They've been messing with coronaviruses for decades, so why then? Why at that exact time? I find the timing very suspicious. Nobody can prove it was to quell the riots or get rid of President Trump, but both those things did happen later on.

By the way, Dr. Fauci was funding research into those very same labs and even supporting their work before this pandemic started. That's not a conspiracy at all, and has been revealed already, complete with the $600,000 he had funneled through a middle-man to the Wuhan labs.

[–] warrior-poet (1357) 3 years ago

You're right that Fauci signed off on the U.S. funding for gain-of-function research, which is problematic at best, criminal at worst. But if it was an intentional release, why release it right there in Wuhan and affect the local population first? Why not release it directly in the U.S. and devise a setup that made a narrative to blame it on Trump much easier? I won't completely deny the possibility to 100%, but given all we know, and the nature and evolution of the circumstances surrounding the pandemic, I place it being an intentional release very, very low. Less than %1. If you consider how it all played out, it becomes quite clear that it was almost certainly an accidental release, especially given the recent news of the three Wuhan researchers that were hospitalized. While it was also highly probable from the get-go that this did come from a lab, and it's true that big tech and big media helped perpetuate a cover-up of that truth by obfuscating it with a false narrative, and millions of sheep lacking the capability to think critically bought into that false narrative unquestioningly, I don't see evidence that it was intentional.
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