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Do you actually think Chauvin will get a fair trial?


Dont you think its already been determined he will be convicted inorder to avoid massive protests again. focker was a criminal that refused to sit in the back of a car. good riddance.

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When you have an angry mob threatening rioting and violence if they don't like the verdict then it's impossible to have a fair trial.

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Just think of all the upset right wing rhetoric and tantruims if he , quite rightfully , is found guilty

It'll be all
"oh the terrorists have won "
"the countries gone to the dogs"
"mob rule"

I will concede , for the sake of argument ,
BLM are terrorists
Floyd was a career crimnal and resisting arrest
and even so - the cop is guilty and so should be found guilty




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He is a police officer. Was he not taught to make an arrest without the person dying? Was the perpetrator not already in position to be arrested?

Yet this officer still felt the need to keep sadistically kneeling on Floyd's neck.

Put him in handcuffs and let the courts decide his fate. It was never up to this officer to decide his sentencing, and this officer's life was never in danger.

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why can't black criminals follow simple instructions like get down, roll over, sit in the car? Even my dog can do that.

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Why can't a trained police officer make an arrest without killing someone?

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https://www.maciverinstitute.com/2021/04/the-truth-about-police-shootings-in-america/

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Wtf is this website you linked? And wtf does it have to do with my question?

If our police are too incompetent to make an arrest on an already subdued victim, then I ask should they have even gotten the job to begin with?

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It's a uniquely American Problem. We have somewhere around 1000 police shootings per year, meanwhile the Brits have like 3. That's a depressingly telling statistic.

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Is it uniquely American? Not really. The U.S. is in the middle of the pack, but that's still way too high on the list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country

These are also two very different topics. Sokar pulled into the discussion a topic about police-involved shootings in the U.S., the numbers of which are driven almost entirely by gangster culture leading young men down a path of criminal activity and violence that police are then forced to confront, putting those young men in the line of fire with each other even more frequently than with police. When 6% of a country's population commits over 50% of all homicides, there's a cultural problem that needs to be addressed with that 6%, i.e. this isn't a problem with a large number of incompetent, or racist, etc. cops. It's a problem with a pervasive culture that breeds violent criminals within certain regions (for which skin color is a byproduct, not a cause).

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/604a86c0b6eeb763cc82d99d/The-Hard-Truth-About-Police-Shootings
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/604a86c0b6eeb763cc82d99d/The-Hard-Truth-About-Police-Shootings?reply=604c4fd360e35279fd2e7b7d

The other topic that may be more pertinent to the Chauvin-Floyd situation is police shootings involving unarmed suspects, of which there were only 27 in 2019 (although "only" 27 is still too high). And most of these involve situations where the suspect was a known criminal being approached for breaking the law and then resisting arrest, and in a number of them the officer using poor judgment or panicking and making a fatal, career-ending mistake. But cops do make mistakes far too often, which does bring up a question of adequate training. They are only human, however, and putting a human being into a tense situation greatly increases the probability of a mistake being made, no matter how trained or experienced they may be.

But not even that is entirely relevant to the Chauvin-Floyd event since it wasn’t an officer-involved shooting. In this case, at least in my mind, this was more about emergency professionals (all the cops, EMTs, and everyone else involved) failing to recognize that a suspect, who was rightly being detained for criminal activity and resisting arrest, was experiencing medical distress, quite possibly due to Fentanyl and a pre-existing heart condition. Regardless of the cause, and even if Chauvin didn’t actually restrict his airway with the maneuver he’d been trained to employ, he and the other professionals on the scene never bothered to check and see if Floyd was actually experiencing a medical problem. At a minimum this is negligence.

Even more importantly than the impending outcome of Chauvin’s trial, and directly relevant to dackbar’s question, it suggests that this precinct (and probably many others) needs to take a hard look at their training, because there was no excuse for the outcome. How everyone involved missed that Floyd was experiencing a real medical emergency is hard to fathom. While not a perfect fit, I suspect Chauvin's walking away with at least second-degree manslaughter, possibly the other two (although I highly question that second-degree murder is appropriate).

Anyone who thinks he's skating out of this because of his skin color isn't paying attention to reality.
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because nignogs can't follow instructions

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because nignogs can't follow instructions

I love it when repugs say the quiet part out loud.

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not a republican and not white

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You can hide behind that. But you damn well know you agree with republicans far more than you agree with democrats.

Anywhere else, your post would've been removed instantly. That's why you're on this board. Most of the posters on here like the lax rules compared to other sites that have real moderation, which has turned this platform into a right-wing extremist haven.

Repubs did lose about as badly as possible though, so I can see why you wouldn't want to be labeled as one.

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democrats and republicans are used to fool dumbass people like u. they are the same shit on the same coin.

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Sure, he didn't help himself by not following the officer's orders, but being handcuffed with a knee on your neck is not called for under any situation.

The other officer's asked if they should put him on his side and chauvin said " no, he's staying here".

When told by an officer that he couldn't feel a pulse, he didn't move to check the situation.

He only moved when the paramedics moved him. Even though there had been no movement or speech from Floyd for 3 minutes.

Do you think that is how policing should be carried out? He was too arrogant to back down and somebody died as a result.

He is guilty.

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He was just found guilty on all three counts, in a very short and sweet court hearing and was taken back into custody by the sheriff's department.

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Good, hope he gets a reality check in prison.

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It will be hard time, with a target constantly on his back.

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