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The Curious Phenomenon of Trump Hatred

posted 5 years ago by [deleted]
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Hate is a pretty severe emotion, it's an extreme sentiment of rancor and bloodlust. You hate people who threaten your survival or identity in some way.

Hate is deeply personal. A woman gets mugged by some trashy sub-human, for example, then that woman is entirely justified in hating him and people like him. Because this is hatred's proper place, to facilitate the destruction of the wicked. No sane person would begrudge her killing him if she had the chance; this is the natural order of things. The only people who don't understand this are bad people, or those who have never had to struggle in life.

But a politician? Sure, I dislike some. Obama said some dodgy things about small businesses, and why they don't deserve more support. George Bush Junior seemed a bit weird and unpleasant. The retards who want to let sociopaths out of prison en masse because of some profoundly misguided sense of justice, yeah fuck them.

But I do not HATE these people. Far from it.

People HATE Trump, and I've seen it with my own eyes. And these aren't peckerhead college students, these are company presidents and other successful people.

What genocide has Trump committed? Whose daughters has he raped? Whose houses has he burnt down? Whose children has he murdered?

People appear to hate Trump not for his evil acts, but because he somehow poses a colossal threat to their sense of identity. This doesn't make any sense and I don't respect it.

What is going on? I've always known that Trump is, like, a lot of people's personal boogeyman, but I don't know why. I think it's that he sort of calls out selfish, crybully assholes for what they are, and the shout-down tactics that work on everyone else don't work on him. But still, what's important is that this hatred of Trump is literally mass hysteria. It isn't normal, and yes this takes into account what he's said and done.

Not that I'm a big fan of his. I think he's controlled opposition at the end of the day, and I mean absolutely nothing to him or people like him. But this popular hatred of him is just... retarded. FFS invest that toxic energy into hating people who actually deserve it, if you must hate at all. Had to say this somewhere

[–] linuxlad (996) 5 years ago

Many do not understand that he is just a puppet on a string just like all other POTUS before him. It is not about him but about "the system" and those in control of "the system". People are naturally misguided by their emotions which are based on personal factors and experiences and require someone/something to direct their anger and hatred.

You mentioned:
"What genocide has Trump committed? Whose daughters has he raped? Whose houses has he burnt down? Whose children has he murdered?"

Even if he committed any or all of these acts, there will always be people who will still support him and believe in him. It is human nature.

Take for example a supreme being that is directly and by proxy responsible for all the atrocities that you mentioned and much worse on a global scale for thousands of years, and yet billions of people choose to worship and praise that being on a daily basis.

[–] TimMC (9143) 5 years ago

Wow. Insanity is great within this post.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

you lost me at how ppl would still support Trump if he was literally Hitler, I mean that's maybe true but it's too general a statement to just say "it's human nature to support and believe in a leader;" like, there's more nuance to it than that. People follow leaders for certain reasons at certain times.

The thing about God being responsible for all atrocities, etc. is actually a kind of D-grade argument. We need to go deeper. God gave us free will because he wants us to love him. We are free to choose to do good or bad. Atrocities are the result of people choosing to do evil.

[–] linuxlad (996) 5 years ago

Yes, say that to cancer cells, multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, Huntington's disease, etc. Pray to your being that your loved ones are never inflicted by any of those and then come back let us know all about "atrocities", "evil", and "free will".

I can just see how you would walk into a cancer center for children and explain to them that the reason they are suffering such atrocities is because of the evil they committed.

Yes, tell me again how that supreme being did not murder thousands of babies to prove that he was the more powerful one (biblical history).

Good and Bad are "subjective", and evil is an "ideal" created by the human race.

Yes, it is human nature for people to follow people like Hitler for their own personal reasons and experiences as I already mentioned, the specifics and details are moot, otherwise my statement would not be a general one.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Yes, say that to cancer cells, multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, Huntington's disease, etc. Pray to you being that your loved ones are never inflicted by any of those and then come back let us know all about "atrocities", "evil", and "free will".

cry more, nihilist. I didn't exactly win the genetic lottery myself, and it sucks, but faith is still a superior way to live your life over just saying "fuck it, bad things happen so I'm gonna piss in my diapers." Do your loved ones suffer from all of these things? I doubt it.

Yes, tell me again how that supreme being did not murder thousands of babies to prove that he was the more powerful one (biblical history).

things were hardcore in those days, if what you say is even accurate, which I doubt.

Good and Bad are "subjective", and evil is an "ideal" created by the human race.

You've never had it hard enough to learn that evil is a thing.

Yes, it is human nature for people to follow people like Hitler for their own personal reasons and experiences as I already mentioned, the specifics and details are moot, otherwise my statement would not be a general one.

what are you even talking about? Are you just saying "durr people follow leaders for reasons?" One needs to go deeper and ask "why" people are following them, and "why" they have those reasons in that time and place, is what I'm saying.

[–] linuxlad (996) 5 years ago

I have faith in different things in life, none which include an imaginary being responsible for such atrocities.

Yes, I do have loved ones who have suffered from some of the mentioned afflictions, however, I do not blame anyone or anything including the imaginary.

You are making presumptions and yes, evil is a thing based on a "subjective ideal".

The fact that you do not understand what I'm talking about as to one of several reasons for people following certain leaders is similar to your subjective belief in an imaginary being that inflicts viruses and diseases on innocent children on a daily basis, yet that is who you base your faith on because of your personal belief that this a superior way of living your life.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Okay well good for you. I have faith in a higher power, a concept that's been fermented by great minds over a thousand years.

Shove your "imaginary being" mockery right up your arse. Faith has helped better men than you.

I am not making presumptions. I know abuse, and the horrible places it can take you. That is evil. It is evil to sexually assault infants. There are people who do these things without remorse, and they are evil. If you want to debate that then fuck you and fuck off.

[–] linuxlad (996) 5 years ago

Okay well good for you. I have faith in a higher power, a concept that's been fermented by great minds over a thousand years.

Yes, many call that concept "the devil".

Shove your "imaginary being" mockery right up your arse. Faith has helped better men than you.

You don't know me so that is moot. You are confusing "faith" with "actions".

I am not making presumptions. I know abuse, and the horrible places it can take you. That is evil. It is evil to sexually assault infants. There are people who do these things without remorse, and they are evil. If you want to debate that then fuck you and fuck off.

I was referring to you making presumptions about me in regards to "how hard or difficult I may or may not have had it".

Your "higher power" allowed and permitted those evil things on those infants and yet it is you who "judges" and "condemns" those people as evil while you place your faith on that very same "higher power" that empowered them to commit such acts in the first place. This is exactly my general point about people following and believing in certain leaders regardless of their actions.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Yes, many call that concept "the devil".

You can worship objective metaphysical good or evil, and everything in between. Christianity, for example, is a system of belief in objective good that have been fermented over thousands of years. That's what I imperfectly follow.

If you're implying that all belief in a higher power is stupid and useless and conflating it with Satanism, that is kind of juvenile. When a population at least pretends to subordinate their desires to a loving God that's greater than them, they're less likely to be assholes. Take away that spirituality and you're left with humanity reverting back to materialism and Might Is Right, because that's what nature hard-wired into us. This will never change and is why it's wise to have spirituality in society.

You don't know me so that is moot. You are confusing "faith" with "actions".

I don't need to know you, you're mocking my faith by calling it an "imaginary being." That's rude and stupid and suggests you are rather immature and insufferable. And I don't need to know you to know that Christian faith has helped greater men than you, me, and everyone here.

I was referring to you making presumptions about me in regards to "how hard or difficult I may or may not have had it".

And I was referring to that if you really think that evil is purely subjective, then you're either sheltered or a psychopath.

[–] linuxlad (996) 4 years ago

You can worship objective metaphysical good or evil, and everything in between. Christianity, for example, is a system of belief in objective good that have been fermented over thousands of years. That's what I imperfectly follow..

Objective = (Representing Facts), Subjective = (Personal Opinion), Good/Evil = (Subjective)
Yes, the very same christianity responsible for enslaving, torturing, and murdering millions because they did not follow or believe in their deity/religion. Your statement is the perfect indoctrinated and brainwashing infection that has been passed down for those thousands of years and the cause of more suffering and destruction than anything else.

If you're implying that all belief in a higher power is stupid and useless and conflating it with Satanism, that is kind of juvenile. When a population at least pretends to subordinate their desires to a loving God that's greater than them, they're less likely to be assholes. Take away that spirituality and you're left with humanity reverting back to materialism and Might Is Right, because that's what nature hard-wired into us. This will never change and is why it's wise to have spirituality in society.

More indoctrinated brainwashing. I imply nothing. Many religious and non-religious people live a good life of honesty, generosity, and kindness of which religion has nothing to do with since it is a choice. Religion/spiritually are not required to be a good or better person. Religion is a subjective ideal created by people for different reasons including controlling and brainwashing. Many so called people of faith are guilty of all kinds of cruelty including your earlier example of assault on infants/children, yet they worship and praise a higher power which allowed them and empowered them to commit such terrible acts. Whether a person is religious or not, they are solely responsible for their actions; religion, faith, and spirituality are excuses.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Your "higher power" allowed and permitted those evil things on those infants and yet it is you who "judges" and "condemns" those people as evil while you place your faith on that very same "higher power" that empowered them to commit such acts in the first place. This is exactly my general point about people following and believing in certain leaders regardless of their actions.

Those evil acts were perpetrated by the men and women doing them, not God. So I judge and condemn them and their acts, not God. Accepting that His plan is beyond my comprehension, and striving anyways to be closer to Him, is called faith. I fail to see the value in blaming God for everything bad that happens. I think you need to think about how there might be something going on with faith that you don't understand, something beneficial, but I'm no one to tell you how to live your life.

Your general point is weird. like, I get it, leaders sometimes abuse their power, and then they still have hangers-on. So what? Should be abolish all leadership because it is sometimes abused?

[–] linuxlad (996) 4 years ago

I don't need to know you, you're mocking my faith by calling it an "imaginary being." That's rude and stupid and suggests you are rather immature and insufferable. And I don't need to know you to know that Christian faith has helped greater men than you, me, and everyone here.

Your personal belief is your business which is of no concern to me or anyone else except you. You are the only one making so much effort to convince yourself that your faith has helped you and others.
Faith in the imaginary is not what helps people, it is their actions and the actions of others; faith in the imaginary is simply an excuse regardless that their faith is the motivation to do good or be better.

And I was referring to that if you really think that evil is purely subjective, then you're either sheltered or a psychopath.

I don't think you understand the true concept of "subjective". Not everyone has the same agreement on what good and evil is. What you believe is evil, others may believe is good and vice versa...hence the "subjective" aspect. Just because you believe something is evil does not mean everyone else believes the same. Evil is a subjective ideal that the human race created; research it, there are entire thesis and articles written about it.
Objective = (Representing Facts), Subjective = (Personal Opinion), Good/Evil = (Subjective), Planet Earth has One Moon = (Objective)

[–] linuxlad (996) 4 years ago

Those evil acts were perpetrated by the men and women doing them, not God. So I judge and condemn them and their acts, not God. Accepting that His plan is beyond my comprehension, and striving anyways to be closer to Him, is called faith. I fail to see the value in blaming God for everything bad that happens. I think you need to think about how there might be something going on with faith that you don't understand, something beneficial, but I'm no one to tell you how to live your life.

People like me don't blame imaginary beings. I blame those solely responsible for their actions and nature responsible for the rest. You are the only one trying to convince yourself that your imaginary deity is not responsible for allowing, permitting, and empowering those very same faithful christians of their cruelty on others, and also trying to convince yourself that your deity is not responsible for inflicting cancer on innocent children on a daily basis because it is beneficial for that deity's greater plan.

BTW: Rude and Stupid = your use of colorful metaphors and your poor attempt to insult with name-calling; nothing mature or christian about that.

[–] TimMC (9143) 5 years ago

My brother was going on a rant on his hatred for the Orange Man and so I asked him flat out, What has Trump done to deserve so much hate from you? He said something like well it's not so much what he did but how he acts. He couldn't state anything that the Amber gent had done at all. He just acts mmmm bad. LOL.

I wanted to know what made him so mad so that I could research it for accuracy but he knew better than to tell me LOL.

I'll say this once more and for the hundredth time, I'm not big fan of Trump(he's OK) NOR do I hate him. I do, however, hate liars and partisan liars.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (15113) 5 years ago

It's actually very disturbing. No other president in our entire history (Lincoln came close) has received this kind of hatred and vitriol from the opposing party or press. You even talk to older people who lived through more presidents, and they'll confirm this.

You never saw this kind of viciousness and immaturity when Obama was president. While Republicans and Conservatives didn't like him, they didn't cause the massive chaos or scream from the rooftops for years after the election nights in 2008 and 2012. They just sulked and went back to work, hoping to weather the storm until a better president could come along. We did complain online, but who doesn't complain online these days? And I never heard of people on the Right being worked up into a lather at the mere sound of the guy's name, wandering around in a ridiculous daze for a week, or viciously attacking liberals. I never heard of Republican college students needing coloring books and play-doh as therapy after election night those 2 specific years. Even the protestors that visited outside the White House never caused serious trouble during Obama's 2 terms (not that anyone would know, considering the news ignored them).

Based on what the Shadowgate film said, there's apparently branches of the govt. who are using algorithms online and through social media, which are written around extensive studies of human psychology and knowing just how to push people's buttons without them knowing. It's as if they're deliberately using social engineering to push us towards a civil war, and it makes me wonder who would benefit from such a disaster?

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

there's apparently branches of the govt. who are using algorithms online and through social media, which are written around extensive studies of human psychology and knowing just how to push people's buttons without them knowing. It's as if they're deliberately using social engineering to push us towards a civil war, and it makes me wonder who would benefit from such a disaster?

I do believe this is what's going on. I've been around long enough to know that this hysteria, at least, is not normal. It's pathological and necessarily proceeds from something deeply wrong with many people psychologically.

Kinda fascinating, like we're living in some lost David Lynch movie where "they" found out how to push our buttons like the ceiling fan did to Teresa Banks in that deleted scene in Fire Walk With Me.

I don't think it's civil war they want. They want control. The libtards hate anyone who disagrees with them, conservatives resent the libtard's abusive narcissism. Maybe that's exactly how they want it. If they want to change a law, they whip up a disaster and use the resulting fear as a plausible reason to change the law. I dunno. If we are so insignificant, why would they go to all this effort to manipulate us?

[–] AmeriGirl26 (15113) 4 years ago

I did some digging, as well as reading around the internet, and apparently the hatred for Trump from the Elite circles is almost personal.

CNN, for example, has been spearheading efforts to trash Trump because the owner actually knew him. The owner was the producer for "The Apprentice" in the early 2000s, so he and Trump have a history together. In fact, several entities within the media sphere know Trump personally and have a vendetta against him behind the scenes.

The media greatly dislikes the fact that they can't control the narrative over this guy like they could have in an earlier time, like in the 80s or 90s, when we didn't have social media, mostly just TV to get our news from. Every time they lie about him, he can just circumvent them with Twitter and talk directly to America.

Trump also used to be a Democrat for years, which was one of many reasons he was popular among the circles of Hollywood, the Media, corporate executives, and even a few areas of Politics for decades. Changing over to Republican within the last 5 years, and then beating one of their own candidates in the election was seen as the biggest betrayal ever. Even worse, they can't control him through blackmail, bribery, or threats, because none have worked on him.

Certain corporate and political entities were pissed at Trump because he had ruined some plans they had made that had ridden on a Hillary victory. An example I heard about recently, were some plans certain companies in Hollywood wanting to build branch movie studios in China, and they would have used Hillary's influence to get them. Trump wins, and those plans to get more money go up in smoke.

That, and he destroyed the globalists' plans to ruin the US further, such as dissolving NAFTA for a better deal, making NATO pay up their part of defending Europe, and calling out China for having an unequal partnership in trade. That, and he destroyed Obama's legacy, so that probably pissed them off too.

[–] Bubbathegut (18242) 4 years ago

"they can't control him through blackmail, bribery, or threats, because none have worked on him."

I think this is why most people like Trump.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (15113) 4 years ago

I finally read an enlightening thing someone wrote as to where all the accusations of "racism" and "-ist" and "-phobe" came from.

For a long time, Republicans and Conservatives in general stayed quiet while Liberals would screech, holler, make a huge stink, and get away with a lot of stuff, both in the civilian world, and in the political one. It was at one point (pretty much during the Obama years) that we on the Right realized we had stayed silent for so long, we didn't really have a voice anymore. Nobody would hear what we had to say in how our country was run, and we had nobody to speak for us. Even worse, the politicians who were supposed to be speaking for us, had sold their souls for money and power in D.C, but nobody had noticed until now.

Then, we finally get a guy running for President who openly speaks what we've been thinking and wanting to say for years, but nobody was able to get the word out for fear of harassment, being laughed at, or ignored. We finally had a champion who would speak for us, and it made many of us find the courage to speak and step out, and it is basically causing everyone on the left to shit their pants.

They aren't used to the Silent Majority talking back to them, telling them what the real facts and realities of their pipe dreams truly are, and it scares the hell out of them, as well as making them mad. So they are [very poorly] attempting to silence us once more by shouting us down, putting gags on us, firing us from our jobs, banning us from social media, and calling us every "-ist" and "-phobe" in the book, trying to make us into the bad guy, and them the valiant do-gooders of society that have to stop the tide.

But honestly, President Trump has not only awakened a Sleeping Giant in the people, he has uncorked the bottle, and the Left is never gonna be able to put the genie back in; not after what has happened in 2016.

[–] Bloodworth79 (5739) 5 years ago

The young adults today and a majority of the country have been conditioned and ingrained to never question or criticize a foreigner, person of color or someone of abnormal sexual orientation.

Its forbidden.

So when it comes time to naturally not like someone and their policies, many of the time these people have to hold it in, which is very unhealthy.

But do you know who is on the table for all kinds of verbal and physical abuse.
Straight white males.

So with trump, these people are now allowed to get it all out.

Nothing is off the table when it comes to them

[–] L1 (1316) 5 years ago

Its more like peopel who are trying to raise awareness and have conversations.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

The Einsatzgruppen could be said to have been just trying to "raise awareness and have conversations." What in blue hell are you even talking about?

[–] kuatorises (7467) 5 years ago

Curious? He lies and wants to be a dictator. Curious, LOL. The man is actively trying to sabotage the election with this Post Office shit.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

how

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 4 years ago

"What is going on? I've always known that Trump is, like, a lot of people's personal boogeyman, but I don't know why."

It's not just Trump himself. It's the MAGA brand he endorses. It's the 25% of the country who believed Obama was born in Kenya without evidence. It's the 25% of the country who thinks there is something inherently wrong about non-white cultures.

Those are the individuals the most powerful man on the planet has decided to give a voice to. The rejection of it is not mass hysteria, but rather the majority of the world's population that understands MAGA's ideology goes against modern-day acceptance of other cultures.

[–] User548 (2068) 4 years ago

Paranoid? Is your Xanax prescription out? Why do you care about people that believe Obama was born outside the US? Are they coming for you? Why do you care about your unsubstantiated 25% of the population against non-whites?
You’re white! So what are you so paranoid for? They ain’t coming after you.

I understand it’s twofold. You’re Xanax is out and the oppressive white guilt is crushing your soul.

No matter. The solution is easy. Give you assets to people of color. Open your home to illegals to use for gratis. Better yet, donate your home to them. Finally give your white privileged job to a more deserving person of color.

Done. No need of any Xanax and your guilt will be lifted. You’re welcome.

[–] TimMC (9143) 4 years ago

Propaganda.

Solved.